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Autopia you, you know, drive the cars yourself? Thats the draw. Cars land and this attraction will have a story unfolding around you. Autopia/Speedway theres no story, no anything except you driving the car and inhaling fumes. Its like saying Test Track and Tomorrowland Speedway are the same...

Its nothing like Tomorrowland Speedway/Autopia. Nothing. Did you know, however, that one time there were 3 versions of Autopia at Disneyland at once.

Quote the other guy that I'm trying to explain it to.

It hasn't looked like Mickey since Sunset went in.

Thats a different argument. The following D23 announcements say differently: Second Cars attraction Carousel with Encanto Walt AA Coco (maybe) Stark Flight Lab Some of these (everything except Walt, probably) will have LL, but they're not super high end attractions.

So they're getting rid of every attraction that doesn't offer LL? You know what costs the most money on a daily basis with the least direct return? Meet and Greets. Are they getting rid of those? On that subject, for those that don't know, the Lightning and Mater M&Gs at DCA are extremely popular.

Thats why they aren't in the art.

Overreact much? They're literally building a Walt AA and putting in a turntable so they can show the current Lincoln show (which always draws only small crowds) while also having the Walt show. If that isn't a nostalgia play, I don't know what is.

Water effects cost money. Water effects get turned off.

You mean 'well into' 2025, not 2026, correct? I think the question is 'When are they going to drain the river?' because thats when, to everyone, it will look like work is going on. And I don't think its clear in the current permit whether or not they need to drain the river before they do the...

It includes movie revenue.

The numbers are more or less correct. Obviously changed a bit since that was written. But they're close enough. And 70 years is a large amount of time to build up a lead.

Just ... wow.

Those numbers include everything, same as they include the revenue of the brands before Disney bought them. (Cars includes when it was Pixar owned, Star Wars when it was Lucas, etc)

https://buttondown.com/diversetechgeek/archive/what-are-the-10-biggest-disney-franchises/ Disney Princesses, as a franchise, $45b. Cars, $21.5b. Princesses had a 70 year head start. There are also 21 movies vs 3 and 13 different princesses. So yes, it kinda is 'on the same planet', if we're...

You said the IP is only popular with 4-7 year old boys. Thats the same(ish) demo they target Princesses to, but I don't think you'd ever make the argument that they shouldn't do any Princess stuff. But like you said, its not the IP thats the problem, its the placement.

By your reasoning, they shouldn't do any Princess stuff because the target demo for that is 4-7 year old girls.

Again, this is not accurate. Or - they didn't create/show the art because they knew it wouldn't help.

And? Some people were perfectly fine with DL's changes as well. Not everyone feels the same. Some people are fine with TSI going away but not so much with the River. There's a difference, but if you aren't reading everything it might seem that they're cool with the entire project. Not that it...

Uh, I don't think you read the thread.