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But do you understand that if they offered that deal to you for what might be currently the most popular attraction in the park, they'd have to offer it to everyone else, too? Do you think the attraction has the capacity to handle that when there are already people who can't get boarding groups...

Just went to BahMar, recent trips to Aruba and Grand Cayman - and how often do you visit WDW? Do you not realize how different your life/travel experience is from the majority of people in America? I mean, I'm not asking you to sympathise with them or feel sorry for them. Go ahead - look down...

I agree but by separating LL out from the base ticket, they were able to enact double-digit percentage price increases for people to keep what their ticket used to give them without making it obvious.

Even if it means that you're giving them the opportunity to charge you more for those individual things? I mean, they unbundled FP+ from park admission, then raised the price of admission and have raised the price of the up-charged replacement multiple times. Do you think the alternative, had...

The compassion and empathy you're displaying for your fellow human beings here is truly breathtaking and not at all out of touch with the world we live in. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. ;) By stupid, you mean they weren't quite aware of all the additional costs they'd encounter? Sure...

How low would the price for this need to be to sit well with you? I ask because I can just about guarantee what they'd charge would be more than that unless you consider the current VIP tours to be within your relative reach.

But now the rides that exit into those shops have to turn a profit to justify their existence, too. I'm waiting for the day they go full Roller Coaster Tycoon on the restrooms. Maybe it'll start with premium restrooms - cleaned more frequently and with bidets. Once they get people paying for...

Yup. I'm sure they've figured out it's more profitable to provide less compelling shopping options, even for the people willing to spend more for that, than to provide better options people would spend more for but spending more to do it. Sure they'd still make money and they'd have happy...

I don't think anyone really likes it but they're being born into it which makes it easier to condition them to expect and accept it.

But then the people who can't really afford it will realize that up front and simply not go! What does Disney do then?! They need those people who will buy in and then shrug and sigh and whip out that credit card when faced with things once there.

Hagrid's and Pteranodon Flyers (which you have to hire a 5 year old to ride with, anyway) are the only ones it's not good for and Hagrid's still gets multi-hour waits just with the regular queue so they don't dare. The other difference is, Universal is in a much better place when it comes to...

Which brings us back to "the capacity has to come from somewhere". So how do they manage this? Do they reduce the pool of regular LL return times in these periods, thus reducing the overall pool of return times available in any given day while also pushing those people to the more extreme...

I think we're on the same page, unfortunately.

Why do you think they haven't?

Maybe not adding to the LL population but definitely going to increase the redemption/usage of the service over the existing LL population since there is no buffer time between attractions and they can do all of this in the middle of the day rather than spreading it out through the whole day to...

I've never been more okay with not going back to WDW than I am right now. Things like this kind of make me care less what happens to the views of Frontierland and Liberty Square since it makes it less likely I'll be returning to see it. Maybe that works out to be a win for Disney? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Problem is, if they do that, they're spelling out exactly how much it's all going to cost you up front and they'd rather you not see that all at once and think too hard about it - largely the same reason they make it confusing in your example of the other industry. When you're faced with the...

And that's why it wouldn't work.

It's doing more than that, actually. The current LL system has return times so everyone doesn't trot into the LL lane line at 11am for Rise throwing both it and the standby line into total disarray. Now, in addition to the standby line and the LL folks with managed return times, there will be...

So you'll basically be spending the same or more with them while costing them less in merchandise and labor? I think Josh's tight pants just got a little tighter reading that.