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  1. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    100% the bolded part. As for the preplanning, I did and enjoyed it but found once I started using G+ that it was much more relaxing than I thought it would be. Being able to let go and allow how we felt each morning dictate what we did that day instead of having to meet a schedule past me...
  2. Dranth

    Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

    Yes, which is where Disney and every company exists. Profitable, as it is being used with regards to D+, means you are now making more money than you spend in a given time period, not that you are making more money combined then you ever spent combined. Filing with the SEC or IRS is not done on...
  3. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    They also told us that how G+ worked, as a digital version of original FP (minus the paid part), was because of all the feedback about FP+. That tells me they are reacting to whoever is currently yelling the loudest. The question is will the differences between this and original FP+ cause the...
  4. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    A few will be sold out or at least have bad times. As for what percentage, I really don't even have a good guess except it has to be a minority given how many of WDW guests are from the US which averages less vacation time than other countries and locals which wouldn't be going for longer...
  5. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    I was saying 7 days from your trip, as you start booking the new system, there will not be a lot of availability for the first seven days of peoples trips because people with 8+ day trips have already booked their full stay before most people will ever get to even see what is available. The...
  6. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Yep, we never had an issue either once we went over the 7 day mark. It was actually a bit eye opening how much more relaxing the whole vacation became once we knew we would be there long enough to do whatever we wanted. Didn't get something one day, no biggie, we'll be back at least a few more...
  7. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Hopefully this holds true going forward as I certainly want this system to be better, I just don't have much faith it will be.
  8. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    I can see how some look at it that way but I think people are being overtly optimistic. My expectation is you are going to have to push out to day 8+ of your trip to find a good time for some rides (just like FP+) so you have gone from a crap-shoot to no chance unless you have a longer stay...
  9. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    We typically go for 10 days and always stay on site (DVC). Park time varies but last trip we didn't enter a park until after lunch each day. Other trips we get there early. We almost never spend a full day in the parks but are more than willing to when the occasion calls for it. I am not...
  10. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Sure, but you left out the additional preplanning that goes into the new system, many people not having access to some rides at all before day of, and the ability to ruin an entire trip instead of one day. ETA: I guess what I keep coming back to in my head is G+ was basically original FP except...
  11. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    I get it, but I am guessing you go for a longer stay because without that many will not even have a reasonable shot at their favorite rides without waiting in a long line. I am willing to bet that many people who go for less than a week will be unable to get at least a few attractions without...
  12. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    It's not that I don't understand, it is that, in my opinion, you have it backward. This is worse, harder to use and benefits the super fans FAR more than G+ did (just like FP+). That people keep saying otherwise just seems ridiculous. Honest question, how on earth is just picking a new ride...
  13. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Great and by allowing three at once they just GARENTEED that less people will be able to get the rides they want, when they want them. At 7 days out SDD is already pushed out to the evening by the MINORITY of guests who stay longer than a week and Tiana is already gone. Explain to me how that...
  14. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    I just don't see how this new one changes much of that though which is where my confusion comes in. It looks like people are just more comfortable with it because it is FP+ part 2 instead of it providing any real benefit. Look, it is the system we have so in that sense, yes, we should all move...
  15. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Yes, but the new system does not fix that. In fact, it makes it worse because now people are making terrible decisions that make the line skip they are paying for useless or very limited for their entire trip instead of day by day.
  16. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    It was not possible to only get one on anything but the busiest of days, outside of user error, and that will be the same under this new one.
  17. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    See, I disagree with this because with G+ (post change where they capped the number of users) you were 100% going to get something worth it unless you purchased it late in the day. It was literally impossible as people could only have one selection at a time so no more than one ride could be out...
  18. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Which is a fair reason to not like it but in the past you said you had not been back from 2016 and listed G+ as one of the reasons (unless I am thinking of someone else, if so apologies). ETA: I found it, you said you had not been since 2017 until after the pandemic which is different than not...
  19. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    I get people are tired of seeing the same things but, to be fair, your entire opinion on G+ was based on worse case speculation if I am remembering correctly.
  20. Dranth

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Neither do most of WDW guests as US citizens (who make up the majority of visitors) don't normally get enough vacation time on average to do that. ETA: I think this is a big reason why you see almost universal support for FP+ amongst fans from other countries while it is more mixed from US fans.
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