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  1. Sir_Cliff

    News Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

    They won't care. This seems like a big deal now, but they know that if in two years they quietly stop talking about it no-one is going to stop visiting in protest.
  2. Sir_Cliff

    News Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

    Hopefully that is true, but he also gave next to no specifics about it. Didn't he also say that the Coco ride would break ground in 2026? When they start talking about projects in those kind of timelines, history tells you to be wary.
  3. Sir_Cliff

    Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

    This feels like predicting a Lion King ride since 1994 and crowing because they've just announced one in 2024.
  4. Sir_Cliff

    News Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

    I have been critical of people dismissing announcements by just saying they're never going to happen, but I'd want more details on this before I got my hopes up. The way it was just tossed out at the end without timeframes or details makes me sceptical it is coming any time soon. If this is...
  5. Sir_Cliff

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    True. Maybe their new method is to just dream up and announce new attractions and figure out where to put them later.
  6. Sir_Cliff

    Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

    The suggestion is that, from the artwork, it looks like it may replace Star Tours and/or MuppetVision. That comes from Brayden, but he seems correct that Grand Avenue and the Muppet courtyard pavers seem to be in the pic.
  7. Sir_Cliff

    Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

    Yes, all the talk of expanding capacity at WDW seems odd in light of the announcements tonight. It seems the Monster's Inc. coaster will replace at least one existing attraction (if not two) and Tropical Americas does involve one major new ride, but is also a makeover of an existing land. That...
  8. Sir_Cliff

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    It is very odd and probably very telling they only revealed art that doesn't give any sense of where it's going. If they wanted people to know how it fit into the park, they would have shown some kind of overview of the land more akin to the Blue Sky Beyond Big Thunder art they showed a few...
  9. Sir_Cliff

    Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

    I feel less enthused about the announcements tonight than most. For one thing, they were so vague on details. That goes for Villainsland especially, but also where the hell additions like the Cars area of Frontierland and Monstropolis are going. My suspicion is that they didn't want to say...
  10. Sir_Cliff

    Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

    Maybe that's how the sequel ends?
  11. Sir_Cliff

    Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

    The difference with Dinoland's replacement is that they seemed to listen to fan discontent and came up with a better proposal. I'm not sure anyone is disappointed that the park is getting Tropical Americas over Zootopia and Moana, whether they're thrilled with Tropical Americas or not. That...
  12. Sir_Cliff

    Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

    God bless the Imagineers who came up with Cars as a counter-proposal to Coco. Reminds me a little of a former Imagineer's recent YouTube discussion of plans for a roller coaster that would launch through the "O" on the Hollywood sign of a Hollywood Hills facade next to ToT. In response, he...
  13. Sir_Cliff

    Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

    Surely they think this is a good thing? Why, I don't know, but I imagine they do!
  14. Sir_Cliff

    Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

    I very much disagree, and this is where the feel comes into play. The walk around the Rivers of America at least retains a rustic feel set vaguely in the past, and I personally never felt a Georgia or New Orleans area really clashed on an intuitive level with the feel of the land. You can even...
  15. Sir_Cliff

    Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

    Indeed! It seems we've all (well, most of us) have gone from cautiously optimistic to hoping something comes to pass that stops them doing what they have planned very quickly!
  16. Sir_Cliff

    Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

    Sure, but modern racing cars in Frontierland wouldn't feel coherent. I think the issue will be whether they do try and make this a kind of journey through time and separate whatever this new ride ends up being effectively from the rest of Frontierland so you're not, for example, standing in...
  17. Sir_Cliff

    Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

    Exactly. Cars racing around Frontierland would not fit just fine.
  18. Sir_Cliff

    Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

    Even if it's not so half-assed, it's still not exactly a wow moment to announce a modified version of something that opened 12 years ago and has been since then the big exclusive attraction of DCA. As someone else mentioned, if that is the big reveal and the artwork happens to reveal Rivers of...
  19. Sir_Cliff

    Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

    So they're just going to take a ride set in a world of cars with a big mountain range formed in the shape of car parts and setting it down behind Big Thunder? What sort of area are they building around it to give some context?
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