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DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

_caleb

Well-Known Member
I think guests' expectations for (and interactions with) themed environments have evolved over the last few generations, and Imagineering has changed as a result (and not always for the better):
  • The Disneyfication of shopping malls, restaurants, museums, etc. mean that people aren't wowed by things like they used to be.
  • Video games: most guests have spent time in (virtual) immersive themed environments. One of my favorites was the Monsters University playset portion of Disney Infinity, and I'm hoping this land is similar to that in some ways!
  • Everyone is staring at their phones, and seem not to notice details like many of us did when we were kids. Backstories, storylines, and internal consistency isn't a priority when people are only halfway paying attention.
  • Attractions in Disney parks seem to be developed in isolation rather than as integral parts of the land in which they exist. Original Fantasyland had rides from all sorts of settings, but there was still some sense of thematic integrity for the entire land, and some attention was given to thematic and visual transitions between attractions.
I'm hopeful this Monsters Inc. land will follow the example of Cars Land.
 

MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
I think guests' expectations for (and interactions with) themed environments have evolved over the last few generations, and Imagineering has changed as a result (and not always for the better):
  • The Disneyfication of shopping malls, restaurants, museums, etc. mean that people aren't wowed by things like they used to be.
  • Video games: most guests have spent time in (virtual) immersive themed environments. One of my favorites was the Monsters University playset portion of Disney Infinity, and I'm hoping this land is similar to that in some ways!
  • Everyone is staring at their phones, and seem not to notice details like many of us did when we were kids. Backstories, storylines, and internal consistency isn't a priority when people are only halfway paying attention.
  • Attractions in Disney parks seem to be developed in isolation rather than as integral parts of the land in which they exist. Original Fantasyland had rides from all sorts of settings, but there was still some sense of thematic integrity for the entire land, and some attention was given to thematic and visual transitions between attractions.
I'm hopeful this Monsters Inc. land will follow the example of Cars Land.
While I mostly agree with you, I'd say the Disneyfication of malls/restaurants has come and gone over the years. In the 1970's, I lived near a shopping mall that was very small world/Mary Blair-esque. (long gone) We've also seen many themed restaurant chains disappear from shopping malls, like Rainforest Cafes. (supposedly there were 59 at one point, now only 16 with 2 at WDW.) For that matter a lot of other Landry's owned themed dining has come and gone. Patina Group, (Tutto Italia, Edison, Space 220, Simply Capri in Flamingo Crossing, and others) have also had a number of closures. Mall Disney stores are also now just about all gone, though a few still exist. Themed places like Rainforest enjoy high popularity when new, but then often the novelty wears off and they are less popular.

On the other hand, augmented reality is very much on the rise. It is neat to see it used by cities so visitors can see history during walking tours while they learn about it. Boston is one of the places that has this, but I think other cities have/will soon offer similar experiences.

In many ways, WDW hasn't kept up at all with the kind of technology we get elsewhere. I'm glad Buzz got an update. Flight of Passage sorely needs an update (very blurry!), and Soarin' was also long overdue. It is crazy that WDW charges $25 for FoP ILL.

One area I've long noted Disney lags is in dining preferences. They could really use some more fast casual locations that aren't fast food. Would love to something like Sweetgreen offered at WDW. Luckily, they now have a few places that fall into this category, like Docking Bay 7 and Satu'li Canteen.

Oh, I just saw Epic's Untrainable Dragon show. Wow!
 

phillip9698

Well-Known Member
While I totally agree with that, I think this building is just so massive not sure it would have fit anywhere over on that side feasibly anyway. What they should have done, if were going to play lol, was bring over the monsters inc dark ride so families who don't like coasters or too young to ride could experience together, and have the coaster, for a complete land. But no, everything now has to be only the biggest most expensive monstrosity and most high tech, to sell those LL's.

If they brought over that DL Monsters Inc ride as is it would have been the absolute laziest thing they could have done outside of a straight up clone.

That ride is nothing but a desperate reskin of a failed past ride. Monsters Inc deserved better than that situation.

Move Laugh Floor out of its bad spot over in Tomorrowland and put it there with this door ride if we really need to have a multi attraction mini land. That way you get a family monsters attraction there and Tomorrowland can continue to be salvaged.
 
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UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
If they brought over that DL Monsters Inc ride as is it would have been the absolute laziest thing they could have done outside of a straight up clone.

That ride is nothing but a desperate reskin of a failed past ride. Monsters Inc deserved better than that situation.

Move Laugh Floor out of its bad spot over in Tomorrowland and put it there with this door ride if we really need to have a multi-ride mini land. That way you get a family monsters attraction there and Tomorrowland can continue to be salvaged.

They probably meant the Tokyo one rather than the Disneyland one, although the Disneyland one is a fine C ticket.
 

phillip9698

Well-Known Member
Totally disagree - I love that ride. It’s got the classic dark ride feel that I love

You can't disagree that the Disneyland version is a reskin of a failed ride. That's a fact. They even re-use the cutouts in the same locations. I would hope that they could do better than reskinned cutouts if they wanted to go with the same concept.

Maybe he meant the Tokyo one. But that's not a cheap ride. 🤔
 

parksandtravel

Active Member
You can't disagree that the Disneyland version is a reskin of a failed ride. That's a fact. They even re-use the cutouts in the same locations. I would hope that they could do better than reskinned cutouts if they wanted to go with the same concept.

Maybe he meant the Tokyo one. But that's not a cheap ride. 🤔

It's still a nice and enjoyable ride. I would gladly take it off their hands and for DHS.
 

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
I’d be so much happier with either the Tokyo or California dark ride then with what we’re getting.
What we SHOULD be getting is both. Design a dark ride and coaster that interact with each other in some rooms. That’s what I’d love to see! Plus it gives all ages the chance to experience the attraction.

Not everyone wants to ride space mountain - the view from the people mover gives people the chance.
 

_caleb

Well-Known Member
While I mostly agree with you, I'd say the Disneyfication of malls/restaurants has come and gone over the years. In the 1970's, I lived near a shopping mall that was very small world/Mary Blair-esque. (long gone) We've also seen many themed restaurant chains disappear from shopping malls, like Rainforest Cafes. (supposedly there were 59 at one point, now only 16 with 2 at WDW.) For that matter a lot of other Landry's owned themed dining has come and gone. Patina Group, (Tutto Italia, Edison, Space 220, Simply Capri in Flamingo Crossing, and others) have also had a number of closures. Mall Disney stores are also now just about all gone, though a few still exist. Themed places like Rainforest enjoy high popularity when new, but then often the novelty wears off and they are less popular.
Right. "Themed" environments became so ubiquitous that Americans are generally over them. The pendulum has since swung in the opposite direction (stark, minimal), hasn't it? We even see this in more recent construction at the Disney Parks (Disney Springs, the Riviera Resort, other resort room refurbs, etc.).
On the other hand, augmented reality is very much on the rise. It is neat to see it used by cities so visitors can see history during walking tours while they learn about it. Boston is one of the places that has this, but I think other cities have/will soon offer similar experiences.

In many ways, WDW hasn't kept up at all with the kind of technology we get elsewhere. I'm glad Buzz got an update. Flight of Passage sorely needs an update (very blurry!), and Soarin' was also long overdue. It is crazy that WDW charges $25 for FoP ILL.
Yeah, Disney hasn't done the best job keeping up, have they? (Carousel of Progress, Tomorrowland, Future World, etc. etc.). And every new hi-tech attraction seems to be a challenge for them to maintain.
One area I've long noted Disney lags is in dining preferences. They could really use some more fast casual locations that aren't fast food. Would love to something like Sweetgreen offered at WDW. Luckily, they now have a few places that fall into this category, like Docking Bay 7 and Satu'li Canteen.
This is funny because I grew up going to DL. So when I first visited WDW, I was blown away by all the dining choices! Yet here we are, years later, and there seem to be fewer (and more generic) options than ever. Fortunately, there are Epcot stands, Disney Springs, and the couple you mentioned.

Maybe I'll start a thread about the changing relationship guests have with themed environments. But for now, I'm really hoping the Monsters Inc. land nails the theming like Cars Land seems to.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
The easy default answer on new bldgs is that a pit is usually for an elevator shaft. For this, multiple elevators in the bldg maybe? Could be plenty other things too
I’m not certain they will be depressions when the slab is poured. It’s hard to tell on a phone and all the rebar makes things hard to follow, but it look like the rebar continues flat over these areas. So maybe a thickened slab? But it also looks like the angled rebar is sticking up out of these areas.
 

dmc493

Well-Known Member
I’m not certain they will be depressions when the slab is poured. It’s hard to tell on a phone and all the rebar makes things hard to follow, but it look like the rebar continues flat over these areas. So maybe a thickened slab? But it also looks like the angled rebar is sticking up out of these areas.
yep don't disagree, my comment's probably only applicable to the two nearly identical pits at the front of the building. the crazy looking depressions in the back with the angled horizontal rebar - I have no clue what's going on there. agreed probably thickened slab or something else
 

aladdin2007

Well-Known Member
I’d be so much happier with either the Tokyo or California dark ride then with what we’re getting.
Agree either one. The park has always needed and lacked a classic dark ride. It would have had Roger Rabbits Hollywood came to reality back in the day. But they just aren't doing these rides anymore (not even sure artistically they would have the know how with todays tech Imagineers at the helm), everything has to be big and bold along with inner egos at play, for those LL sales.
 

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