News Disney Springs Bus Service to Resorts Now Requires Reservation Verification

[homerdance]

Well we killed the 10 year old myth “for everyone they lose…10 line up to replace them.”

Because it’s and always was…you just don’t get immediately proof…takes a while to fester

Now it’s time to kill they “they keep making more money…so it’s working” stuff.

It’s a mass model. Fans that think they’re special for paying more can’t keep it going as the bottom half of the market drops out by no choice. The Math don’t math.

So if you’re waiting for Muffy and Buffy to stroll Around with sweaters tied over their shoulders and a “select” group of peers…you’ll never see it.

Nobody will…because the model will collapse and the gates will be close long prior.
The us market is likely already beyond zero barrier…
Who they gonna get? The super rich europe?
China?
The Brazilian sugar cane economy?
Sub Saharan?

Oh wait…the Saudis!! That’s gotta be it?

That’s why they use “spending per guest” vs total revenue. These freeloaders off site folks aren’t guests.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That’s why they use “spending per guest” vs total revenue. These freeloaders off site folks aren’t guests.

They need money…because they aren’t required by law to report shrinking margins (they really have to say almost nothing)…doesn’t mean they aren’t. Without Gas Lightning Lane…they’ve probably be running red already…
…so anyone with a dollar is “desirable” and That will grow

 

[networkpro]

Because half of the people in the US and 75% of the money was on the eastern seaboard and Rust belt when it was built and it’s closer

Don’t play the fool,bro

That's not stopping you now, there are these metal things you can hop into and they'll fly you wherever your hearts desire is located... even Tokyo Disneyworld/Sea.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That's not stopping you now, there are these metal things you can hop into and they'll fly you wherever your hearts desire is located... even Tokyo Disneyworld/Sea.

Are you under the impression I only go to Florida?

Tis not so

Also I think you missed the part where I was talking about LIVING in central Florida…the Mecca of low wages

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Once upon a time WDW did charge for transportation use, but that was also in the old ticket days when their transportation system was smaller in scope and not as complicated

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Disney could implement a tap to pay (Magic Band or card) system for its mass transit like most modern cities have, but the cost of installing such infrastructure, educating guests and employees on its use and preventing fare evasion would not be worth it to Disney

The purpose of Disney transportation is to get people from point A to point B, regardless of what the intended destination or purpose of visiting is. Complicating the system doesn't just discourage less desirable customers, it discourages everyone by making it a hassle no one wants to deal with.

It should not be complicated to use because doing so ultimately impedes the guests from enjoying themselves and spending money. Yes there is a cost to operating transit, but like the parking trams or other things, is part of the cost of doing business for Disney which is paid for elsewhere.

Regarding this change, though, isn't Disney Springs a unique part of the system where the WDW resort internal transportation system comes into contact with the external world/transportation?

Of course, Disney Springs is still on WDW property, but DS is specifically designed to be accessible to the exterior world in a way that the rest of the resort is not. This includes the free parking and public bus routes. So, having an extra check at this one point to transfer into the WDW transportation system doesn't seem that outlandish or complicated to me.

 

[networkpro]

Are you under the impression I only go to Florida?

Tis not so

Also I think you missed the part where I was talking about LIVING in central Florida…the Mecca of low wages

Nope I didn't miss it at all. Living there necessarily doesn't mean either working there for low wages or even working at all If you have the necessary skills or retire with sufficient resources, your wage argument doesn't apply. Some dont have to grift as Vloggers to afford to attend whatever park they want whenever they want.

 

[networkpro]

Regarding this change, though, isn't Disney Springs a unique part of the system where the WDW resort internal transportation system comes into contact with the external world/transportation?

Of course, Disney Springs is still on WDW property, but DS is specifically designed to be accessible to the exterior world in a way that the rest of the resort is not. This includes the free parking and public bus routes. So, having an extra check at this one point to transfer into the WDW transportation system doesn't seem that outlandish or complicated to me.

No, Lynx has a stop at the Ticket and Transportation Center serving at least three routes to Celebration, Lynx Central, and during peak times Washington Shores.

 

[Tha Realest]

On paper you could say that a more restrictive service would mean shorter lines and less crowded buses. For on-site guests it could mean having an edge in booking on demand restaurants and activities.
Not saying this is a solution, but if Disney thinks its a problem maybe there is something to it.

Transportation is an expensive line item for Disney to maintain. It’s not a revenue generator. And it’s also a non-negotiable for people to get to/from their resorts and the parks. Likewise, it’s a huge benefit to the tenants of DS to have that flow of traffic from the resort guests.

I’m no Disney defender. To the contrary. But to expect Disney to continue to transport non-resort guests during peak season while gas/oil prices are skyrocketing (yes even biofuels) is lunacy.

 

[toddlymon]

My wife and I visit the resorts every year to see the gingerbread decorations at Christmas and the Easter eggs at Easter. A few years ago security stopped letting us park at each resort because the holidays are always a very busy time at the resorts and told us that we needed to go to Disney Springs and catch the bus to the resorts. We just did that last week. Now we can't even do that? Now, in order to see these yearly decorations we....as locals....need to book a stay at each resort???? How much more can Disney show that they DO NOT GIVE A CRAP about locals??? Soon we'll have to pay to park at the Springs

 

[Disstevefan1]

Today's Disney always manages to remind us they are a business first and the guest experience is way down on the list.

What used to be a cost of doing business has become an expensive line item for Disney to maintain (and reduce).

Its sad.

Maybe this is just a limitation during peak times? Probably not.....

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

But to expect Disney to continue to transport non-resort guests during peak season while gas/oil prices are skyrocketing (yes even biofuels) is lunacy.

That’s not the issue - Disney isn’t running less buses right now because of this.

It’s about the parking at Disney Springs.

 

[JerseyMan95]

My wife and I visit the resorts every year to see the gingerbread decorations at Christmas and the Easter eggs at Easter. A few years ago security stopped letting us park at each resort because the holidays are always a very busy time at the resorts and told us that we needed to go to Disney Springs and catch the bus to the resorts. We just did that last week. Now we can't even do that? Now, in order to see these yearly decorations we....as locals....need to book a stay at each resort???? How much more can Disney show that they DO NOT GIVE A CRAP about locals??? Soon we'll have to pay to park at the Springs

No, you park at one of the theme parks like what want everyone to do and take transportation to the resorts.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Transportation is an expensive line item for Disney to maintain. It’s not a revenue generator. And it’s also a non-negotiable for people to get to/from their resorts and the parks. Likewise, it’s a huge benefit to the tenants of DS to have that flow of traffic from the resort guests.

I’m no Disney defender. To the contrary. But to expect Disney to continue to transport non-resort guests during peak season while gas/oil prices are skyrocketing (yes even biofuels) is lunacy.

Yes, I understand people being cynical about the move. However, I find it hard to accept the idea that Disney should be maintaining a larger bus fleet to accommodate non-resort guests at peak times that probably run little more than a month in total each year (if that) rather than just introducing this one specific capacity cap during those periods.

Sure, treat the guest like a king, but WDW is not making internal resort transportation available to people who aren't staying at the resort from one particular location where they provide free parking to non-resort guests at the times when capacity is most strained doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

 

[Ayla]

No, you park at one of the theme parks like what want everyone to do and take transportation to the resorts.

Ok, they park at DHS, for example, and take a bus to a resort, then another bus to DS.

So tell me, in your scenario, how do they get back to their car?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

However, I find it hard to accept the idea that Disney should be maintaining a larger bus fleet

Nobody is saying that - the bus capacity is not the issue. It’s parking capacity at Disney Springs.

 

[Tha Realest]

Today's Disney always manages to remind us they are a business first and the guest experience is way down on the list.

What used to be a cost of doing business has become an expensive line item for Disney to maintain (and reduce).

Its sad.

Maybe this is just a limitation during peak times? Probably not.....

who do the Josh defenders blame this one on?

You know, like how all of the other unpopular, anti-guest initiatives that happened between 2020-2026 were always someone else’s doing.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Nobody is saying that - the bus capacity is not the issue. It’s parking capacity at Disney Springs.

So is your argument against the free parking at Disney Springs?

 

[Tha Realest]

That’s not the issue - Disney isn’t running less buses right now because of this.

It’s about the parking at Disney Springs.

How do you know?

You don’t think any non-revenue line item isn’t being closely examined, especially during crowded times and ballooning energy costs?

 

[Disstevefan1]

My wife and I visit the resorts every year to see the gingerbread decorations at Christmas and the Easter eggs at Easter. A few years ago security stopped letting us park at each resort because the holidays are always a very busy time at the resorts and told us that we needed to go to Disney Springs and catch the bus to the resorts. We just did that last week. Now we can't even do that? Now, in order to see these yearly decorations we....as locals....need to book a stay at each resort???? How much more can Disney show that they DO NOT GIVE A CRAP about locals??? Soon we'll have to pay to park at the Springs

I have often wondered about when they will begin charging for parking. The moment I saw the garages go up I always thought it was not a matter of if, it was a matter of when they will begin to charge for parking.

I suspect the tenants of Disney Springs DO NOT want potential customers to pay for parking.

Disney holds all the cards here. They will do what they will do with little consideration for their tenants and guests.

Only time will tell..

 

[JerseyMan95]

Ok, they park at DHS, for example, and take a bus to a resort, then another bus to DS.

So tell me, in your scenario, how do they get back to their car?

Go back and get your car and drive to Springs... pretty easy.