News Coco Boat Ride Coming to Disney California Adventure

[D.Silentu]

Orange Grove 55 put on a good video on Coco speculation, with an interesting theory (which I won't spoil).

Please do.

 

[Movielover]

Orange Grove 55 put on a good video on Coco speculation, with an interesting theory (which I won't spoil).

I tried watching his video and immediately upon his opening segment I wanted to throw up from how cringe it was.

Watched the rest of it on silent with subtitles and I think what you are referencing is the idea of putting the ride entrance and queue where the pizza restaurant is now? That just seems like a horrible way to fit the ride in there and completely gets rid of the parade access/possible future route to Simba.

 

[DrStarlander]

I think what you are referencing is the idea of putting the ride entrance and queue where the pizza restaurant is now? That just seems like a horrible way to fit the ride in there and completely gets rid of the parade access/possible future route to Simba.

Not necessarily. He didn't flesh the whole approach out. I assume it would involve a queue that descends to a tunnel under the Simba walkway/service road to a show building behind Incredicoaster. (Not dissimilar to the problem-solving approach they took with squeezing Indy in, or the Haunted Mansion even, with regard to the railroad.) The benefits are that the attraction entrance is within Santa Cecilia with retail and F&B, and it separates the Simba bridge traffic from the Coco attraction traffic which could be a choke point.

It's probably more ambitious that what Disney is likely to do at DCA (and so is the Mexico pavilion approach I think). I still think the outdoor plaza plus Tangled is most likely but who knows.

 

[Disney Irish]

Ugh. A perfect fit lol. And why they needed to only demo the tiny building in front of it. Yep that maintenance building is staying folks.

Or its just speculation like any of the rest of us and they don't know anything more than we do, ie they've never had any insiders on that podcast. So lets not jump to conclusions just yet. Until foundations are poured anything is possible, we could be getting this, or we could be getting something completely different that no one here even thought of.

 

[mickEblu]

Or its just speculation like any of the rest of us and they don't know anything more than we do, ie they've never had any insiders on that podcast. So lets not jump to conclusions just yet. Until foundations are poured anything is possible, we could be getting this, or we could be getting something completely different that no one here even thought of.

lol you must not understand my posting style or sense of humor after all these years. Besides, my comment had nothing to do with the vlog. It had everything to do with the fact that the Mexican Pavillion show building fits perfectly in the area they cleared out at DCA. Coincidence? Maybe but that would be kind of crazy considering this ride was most likely originally designed for Epcot. Still open to and hoping the maintenance building is demo’d but that’s looking less likely every day.

 

[DrStarlander]

Or its just speculation like any of the rest of us and they don't know anything more than we do, ie they've never had any insiders on that podcast. So lets not jump to conclusions just yet. Until foundations are poured anything is possible, we could be getting this, or we could be getting something completely different that no one here even thought of.

I don't think anybody feels like they have any info or insight about this attraction's placement, scope, how it will be integrated (or not) with the existing park (backstage, Incredicoaster, or Paradise Gardens). It's all speculation, most of that is based on possibilities seen at other Disney Parks (Epcot Mexico pavilion, Fantasy Springs, Tangled, Frozen, Blue Bayou). There's a catalog of known elements and approaches, and of course they may come up with something entirely new, as they periodically do.

But it's just fun to speculate and make some predictions because in a few weeks or months I think we'll have many of those questions answered, and then for the next year or two the project is kind of boring (like Infinity Defense is), where there's not nearly as much to speculate about.

 

[Disney Irish]

lol you must not understand my posting style or sense of humor after all these years. Besides, my comment had nothing to do with the vlog. It had everything to do with the fact that the Mexican Pavillion show building fits perfectly in the area they cleared out at DCA. Coincidence? Maybe but that would be kind of crazy considering this ride was most likely originally designed for Epcot. Still open to and hoping the maintenance building is demo’d but that’s looking less likely every day.

Well considering that early on in this process we've had that discussion about the Mexico Pavilion fitting back there, I don't think it should be any surprise that it indeed does even with as little space as has been cleared so far, if that is what they decide to do. And yes I think its coincidence at this point, considering that we've had speculation from everything including NOS fitting back there.

 

[Disney Irish]

I don't think anybody feels like they have any info or insight about this attraction's placement, scope, how it will be integrated (or not) with the existing park (backstage, Incredicoaster, or Paradise Gardens). It's all speculation, most of that is based on possibilities seen at other Disney Parks (Epcot Mexico pavilion, Fantasy Springs, Tangled, Frozen, Blue Bayou). there's a catalog of known elements and approaches, and of course they may come up with something entirely new, as they periodically do.

But it's just fun to speculate and make some predictions because in a few weeks or months I think we'll have many of those questions answered, and then for the next year or two the project is kind of boring (like Infinity Defense is), where there's not nearly as much to speculate about.

I don't think I've said don't speculate, all I'm doing to putting some perspective in on this saying "hold up, lets not jump to conclusions just yet and say xyz isn't happening, just because some speculative plan from some vloggers may or may not fit the current state of the area".

Besides, they are a bit late to that speculation, you can find that discussion was had here many many months ago. I wouldn't even be surprised if they didn't get that idea from us here.

 

[mickEblu]

Well considering that early on in this process we've had that discussion about the Mexico Pavilion fitting back there, I don't think it should be any surprise that it indeed does even with as little space as has been cleared so far, if that is what they decide to do. And yes I think its coincidence at this point, considering that we've had speculation from everything including NOS fitting back there.

Cmon man please don’t be so dense. It’s not notable that fits back there. It’s notable that it’s a damn near perfect fit.

 

[Disney Irish]

Cmon man please don’t be so dense. It’s not notable that fits back there. It’s notable that it’s a damn near perfect fit.

Its not like I didn't say the same thing back in 2024 in response to someone who found an idea for an overlay of Grand Fiesta Tour, plus other discussion around the same -

While its shorter than I would like, but that is certainly a show building that could fit into the area behind Incredicoaster without any issues. It wouldn't even need to expand much if any beyond the existing footprint of the parade building.

So yes I'm already aware of how its a near perfect fit for the current area as it is without much further alteration. So no man I'm not being dense. I'm just being realistic, and saying "Hold up, lets not jump to conclusions just yet", which I think is fair to say.

 

[mickEblu]

Its not like I didn't say the same thing back in 2024 in response to someone who found an idea for an overlay of Grand Fiesta Tour, plus other discussion around the same -


So yes I'm already aware of how its a near perfect fit for the current area as it is without much further alteration. So no man I'm not being dense. I'm just being realistic, and saying "Hold up, lets not jump to conclusions just yet", which I think is fair to say.

You re still being dense I see. “It could fit” back there and it fits perfectly into the land Disney cleared excluding the Maintenance building are not the same.

Nobody is questioning whether the building fits. Someone may have been in 2024 but were not talking about that now. Recently, most were hoping for a substantially larger show building.

 

[coffeefan]

The thing about Coco, is that Disney has utilized the IP differently at each of the parks (and ships for that matter). So while it is possible that DCA is getting the Epcot concept, it's also possible that DCA is getting a different version altogether than what was being planned for Epcot.

 

[Disney Irish]

You re still being dense I see. “It could fit” back there and it fits perfectly into the land Disney cleared excluding the Maintenance building are not the same.

Nobody is questioning whether the building fits. Someone may have been in 2024 but were not talking about that now. Recently, most were hoping for a substantially larger show building.

Dude, I've acknowledged it fits perfectly into that current demoed area. So yes if Disney did nothing else and started to pour a foundation tomorrow that could be what we get. But that is the point, we don't know if Disney is done with the site yet, every week they seem to make more changes that no one thought was possible. We could do this for every further change where we see what other existing attraction can fit in whatever alteration is done and jump to more conclusions on what it could be.

Or Disney could be doing something completely different. All I'm saying its lets not jump to conclusions yet, I don't know why that is so bad to say.

 

[Disney Irish]

The thing about Coco, is that Disney has utilized the IP differently at each of the parks (and ships for that matter). So while it is possible that DCA is getting the Epcot concept, it's also possible that DCA is getting a different version altogether than what was being planned for Epcot.

Yep, thank you, exactly my point.

 

[ToEarthandback]

Yep, thank you, exactly my point.

I the takeaway here isn’t that the building fits , it’s that such a small footprint would be a huge disappointment given how it was hyped

 

[Disney Irish]

I the takeaway here isn’t that the building fits , it’s that such a small footprint would be a huge disappointment given how it was hyped

And I said the same thing back in 2024 when the idea was thrown around originally. Its funny how we come around back full circle on some of this stuff.

 

[Disney Vault]

Coco really needs a drop. Disney cant build two boat rides in dca and neither of them have a drop. Im guessing avatar won't have a drop since pirates in Shanghai doesnt have one.

 

[coffeefan]

Yep, thank you, exactly my point.

Several people believe DCA is getting a ride originally intended for Epcot. If that were the case, I think they would've built the attraction at Epcot first, since the obstacles there pale in comparison.
So it's just as possible that the DCA attraction is designed specifically for DCA, and if it gets cloned to Epcot they will need to have some modifications, essentially another Pirates DL to MK situation. We just don't know enough. I blame Disney for not being more forthcoming with basic information.

 

[Disney Irish]

Several people believe DCA is getting a ride originally intended for Epcot. If that were the case, I think they would've built the attraction at Epcot first, since the obstacles there pale in comparison.
So it's just as possible that the DCA attraction is designed specifically for DCA, and if it gets cloned to Epcot they will need to have some modifications, essentially another Pirates DL to MK situation. We just don't know enough. I blame Disney for not being more forthcoming with basic information.

I don't blame them for not giving out information yet, we're still early in the project. I've said before that I expect we'll get more information in August at D23.

 

[GravityFalls]

Several people believe DCA is getting a ride originally intended for Epcot. If that were the case, I think they would've built the attraction at Epcot first, since the obstacles there pale in comparison.
So it's just as possible that the DCA attraction is designed specifically for DCA, and if it gets cloned to Epcot they will need to have some modifications, essentially another Pirates DL to MK situation. We just don't know enough. I blame Disney for not being more forthcoming with basic information.

It's fair to blame Disney. As far as I remember there weren't any rumors about this attraction up until the announcement at D23. I think it's entirely possible that the decision to include Coco at DCA was a last minute one (that would explain the lack of rumors) and the concept art they showed was concept art originally designed for Epcot, but never shown to the public. That's why we've spent over a hundred pages scratching our heads over how all of this is supposed to work. Everything including the size of the ride vehicles is up in the air until they give us more info.