Disney making $1 billion investment in OpenAI, will allow characters on Sora AI video generator

[Casper Gutman]

Sure, AI can be used well. Trained on the right data, it can actually do wonders.

There are two big issues I have seen with folks I interact with.

First, most are only exposed to the general AI that is trained on or includes the bowls of the internet like twitter. That is when we get great things like an AI worshiping certain fascist dictators from WWII and producing inappropriate videos with minors.

Second, a lot of people recognize the absurd amount of damage that can be done with AI if not used correctly. They also don't believe we will have reasonable and thought out controls or if we did, that they would be reliably enforced.

The damage won’t come if AI isn’t “used correctly,” it will come if it’s used in the way AI CEOs and advocates are screaming at us to use it.

AI as it stands now has a relatively narrow range of productive uses but those won’t justify the MASSIVE investment into the technology. AI is thus being forced on the population, far exceeding any actual demand, in a way no previous technology has been.

 

[_caleb]

“Just a tool,” “card catalog,” etc. etc.

It’s just a bunch of catch phrases and cliches that people regurgitate without thinking critically about what they mean or whether they’re the slightest bit relevant.

Why criticize the examples given rather than engage on the merits? I think critically about this stuff, but I’m interested in hearing other opinions.

What’s a better analogy?

 

[_caleb]

AI as it stands now has a relatively narrow range of productive uses but those won’t justify the MASSIVE investment into the technology. AI is thus being forced on the population, far exceeding any actual demand, in a way no previous technology has been.

I use AI every day, and I haven’t found it to have a “relatively narrow range of productive uses.” In fact, I discover new uses all the time.

Just last week, I used ChatGPT to put together an interactive, location-based tour guide for my family vacation, tailored to our preferences. It was really cool how it incorporated historical, architectural, and cultural elements.

I don’t find AI being forced on the population, so much as early adopters driving interest and decision-makers seeing the value. Hopefully, the feature race of adding AI to everything is a fad, but I don’t find them as mostly negative (as you dismiss them to be).

I think part of the issue is that the industry positioning AI chatbots as consumer-level products (to help with training the models) rather than as what they are: professional-level tools. This would have resulted in far fewer users, but higher-quality output.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I use AI every day, and I haven’t found it to have a “relatively narrow range of productive uses.” In fact, I discover new uses all the time.

Just last week, I used ChatGPT to put together an interactive, location-based tour guide for my family vacation, tailored to our preferences. It was really cool how it incorporated historical, architectural, and cultural elements.

I’ve done this without the use of AI. I find that makes it far more meaningful and accurate. I would absolutely never trust an AI constructed guide of that type without checking every point against more reliable sources. AI is notoriously unreliable for any kind of historical or cultural research.

I don’t find AI being forced on the population, so much as early adopters driving interest and decision-makers seeing the value. Hopefully, the feature race of adding AI to everything is a fad, but I don’t find them as mostly negative (as you dismiss them to be).

AI is making a wide variety of applications - you gave a useful list of examples in a previous post - less reliable and less useful and consumers have noticed, with AI becoming less and less popular over time. AI billionaires are absolutely trying to force the technology on the public and they’ve been quite open about it, shouting that everyone must use AI to justify the massive amounts spent and working with the federal government to BAN ALL REGULATION OF AI for a decade despite overwhelming public support for such regulation.

I think part of the issue is that the industry positioning AI chatbots as consumer-level products (to help with training the models) rather than as what they are: professional-level tools. This would have resulted in far fewer users, but higher-quality output.

 

[_caleb]

I’ve done this without the use of AI.

You made a customized, interactive location-based tour guide without AI?

I find that makes it far more meaningful and accurate. I would absolutely never trust an AI constructed guide of that type without checking every point against more reliable sources. AI is notoriously unreliable for any kind of historical or cultural research.

You can ask AI to cite its sources or limit to specific sources. I try to fact-check whether I’m using AI or not. It may be “notoriously unreliable” for people who don’t understand how to use it well, but I’ve found it to be very reliable and accurate.

AI is making a wide variety of applications - you gave a useful list of examples in a previous post - less reliable and less useful and consumers have noticed, with AI becoming less and less popular over time.

Less popular? I haven’t seen any indications of this. I do think our tolerance and patience for bad AI is decreasing.

AI billionaires are absolutely trying to force the technology on the public and they’ve been quite open about it, shouting that everyone must use AI to justify the massive amounts spent and working with the federal government to BAN ALL REGULATION OF AI for a decade despite overwhelming public support for such regulation.

Oh. billionaires have always screamed about things and done all they can to avoid oversight and regulation. I try to ignore them.

This thread started with the news about Disney’s attempt to regulate (and promote) the use of its IP in Sora. I think it would have been an interesting (if expensive) experiment.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It may be “notoriously unreliable” for people who don’t understand how to use it well, but I’ve found it to be very reliable and accurate.

oh c’mon…. It’s very inaccurate at times.

 

[Chi84]

oh c’mon…. It’s very inaccurate at times.

I agree in certain circumstances.

When have you found it to be inaccurate?

 

[Alice a]

I agree in certain circumstances.

When have you found it to be inaccurate?

Not to bust in, but when queried for flu meds that were safe for high BP, it gave me a list of items that were in no way safe for people with high BP.

Actually, it’s been remarkably, dangerously bad with basic medical queries I have run.

I, personally, would never get medical advice from an AI or the internet, but I like to occasionally check the accuracy when I think about it.

According to NPR, a not insignificant amount of Americans, especially those under the age of 30, have been turning to chat GPT, etc., for medical advice.

 

[JD80]

Not to bust in, but when queried for flu meds that were safe for high BP, it gave me a list of items that were in no way safe for people with high BP.

Actually, it’s been remarkably, dangerously bad with basic medical queries I have run.

I, personally, would never get medical advice from an AI or the internet, but I like to occasionally check the accuracy when I think about it.

According to NPR, a not insignificant amount of Americans, especially those under the age of 30, have been turning to chat GPT, etc., for medical advice.

Sure, but medical advice should only come from a doctor. That goes for asking ChatGBT, Google, or your crazy aunt with the crystals.

 

[Ayla]

You made a customized, interactive location-based tour guide without AI?

You've heard of books and the internet, I presume? It is actually very easy to be online and not use AI - ever.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Sure, but medical advice should only come from a doctor. That goes for asking ChatGBT, Google, or your crazy aunt with the crystals.

You’d be amazed how many parents become Dr Google when their child is in the ICU.

 

[_caleb]

You've heard of books and the internet, I presume? It is actually very easy to be online and not use AI - ever.

Maybe you missed the conversation we were having. I said I used AI to generate a customized, interactive guide. He said he’d done that without AI.

Of course you can purchase a book and not use AI, but that’s not what this thread is about.

 

[Ayla]

Maybe you missed the conversation we were having. I said I used AI to generate a customized, interactive guide. He said he’d done that without AI.

Of course you can purchase a book and not use AI, but that’s not what this thread is about.

I think you missed his point, which was AI was not necessary to get the same, more accurate result.

Regardless of what you believe, it is possible to do things without AI.

 

[_caleb]

You’d be amazed how many parents become Dr Google when their child is in the ICU.

I agree. And loads of people are using AI chatbots for this. Which is sad, because they find things that give false alarm and/or false hope.

oh c’mon…. It’s very inaccurate at times.

More if you don’t know how to use it.

Not to bust in, but when queried for flu meds that were safe for high BP, it gave me a list of items that were in no way safe for people with high BP.

What was the structure of the prompt you used?

EDIT: Oh, @Alice a, I just realized it may have sounded like I was asking you to share personal/medical information! This wasn't my intention. I've edited my post to be clearer that I meant "how was your prompt structured," as in, "what guidance did you give it?" Sorry about that!

As I said previously, if people type a question into a free-tier chatbot without context, clear instructions, parameters, limits, source priorities, etc., they’re going to get bad output.

 

[HauntedPirate]

I just find the assertion that AI isn't being pushed onto the general public belly-laughingly hilarious. Tell everyone you don't pay attention without telling everyone you don't pay attention.

 

[_caleb]

I think you missed his point, which was AI was not necessary to get the same, more accurate result.

Regardless of what you believe, it is possible to do things without AI.

You’re right, AI is not necessary.
It just makes the same task much faster, easier, and more comprehensive.

Have you used it?

 

[Ayla]

I just find the assertion that AI isn't being pushed onto the general public belly-laughingly hilarious. Tell everyone you don't pay attention without telling everyone you don't pay attention.

It is 100% being pushed on the public, but some of us know how to push back.

 

[_caleb]

I just find the assertion that AI isn't being pushed onto the general public belly-laughingly hilarious. Tell everyone you don't pay attention without telling everyone you don't pay attention.

Do you mean it’s being promoted by people who stand to benefit from its use? Or is someone requiring you to use it?

 

[HauntedPirate]

I agree. And loads of people are using AI chatbots for this. Which is sad, because they find things that give false alarm and/or false hope.

No, not AI chatbots. What part of "Dr. Google" was unclear? Parents literally will show healthcare providers their Google searches about what they think is wrong with their child.

Do you mean it’s being promoted by people who stand to benefit from its use? Or is someone requiring you to use it?

I don't know, you tell me, Mr. AI Expert:

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[JD80]

Can we stop acting like all uses of AI are universal across platforms and corporations? Like much in life, some are good, some are bad and some are in the middle.

Some are public facing, some are not.

I like how @HauntedPirate used AI to create his list