I beg to differ. I can see things anyway it fits my narrative. I'm not bound by the carefully expressed words that seem to be the only job a high end executive has. It's not so much about what they say as what they mean behind the words. They don't have a PR department for nothing you know.
It’s not really about how you see it. Disney has told us it’s Frontierland. They’ve reinforced that many, many times now. Disney said Piston Peak is not a land, it’s part of Frontierland, and that is that. You don’t really get to change Disney’s official word on things because it doesn’t fit your vibe unless you plan on living in a made up reality.
Again, you guys are talking about the same exact semantics that existed with Rivers of America /TSI, which was also officially Frontierland. One of the things that people say that they will miss the most about RoA is the view to and from Haunted Mansion. Heck, to further accentuate how arbitrary the fact that the main ride was officially part of Frontierland, is the fact that the actual entrance where you got on and off the Liberty Belle was in Liberty Square. Only TSI, did you enter via Frontierland. Similarly, you will enter Piston Peak Nat Park directly across the path from the front of Haunted Mansion, so its official land couldn't be more arbitrary from a practical standpoint.
The riverboat, island, and rivers were designed to fit the entire area.
I agree with all of this! I love NO, and when I was a kid, I lived right across the Pontchatrain bridge, in Slidell. The Natchez is still running in NO, and I need to go on it again sometime!
It is not a land. You keep saying “land”. This is a cars ride being built in Frontierland. It does not need a second ride in order to be a replacement ride for TSI. Are you getting confused and think we are talking about the cars ride being replaced? We are not. We are talking about the secondary, never been seen, never been mentioned again since the fist announcement kiddie ride that would maybe be built next to this cars attraction.
It’s kind of sad/hilarious at the same time that certain posters are so stuck in the Bob Chapek/Iger era. Anything that goes contrary to certain narratives is always looked at with suspicion and denial.
Piston Peak is not a ride, it's a land that the Rally Racers ride is on! I'm calling it a mini land. You can call it whatever you want, but if it's not a ride, then what is it? I just made an entire post about the semantics of this. It will not only have a second ride, but the same (or similar) barrel bridges and possibly other features from TSI will be used as a way to walk around a certain part of the land, or whatever word you would like to replace with land.
Huh? The view is that we don’t know - meaning everything is possible. The 2nd attraction may have been cancelled. It may be a walk through. It may be a flat ride. It may be something more elaborate using one of the recent patents.
Everything you say is true but I (think) it was Disney objective to change things/areas that DOES NOT SELL LLs. that also require maintenance, into things/areas THAT SELL LLs
It is an area of a larger land. It's not like it's some mysterious situation without precedent. Storybook Circus is still part of Fantasyland, for instance.
This was an angle that I feel very strongly about, as well, and IMO, the main reason that Chapeck was fired. As one example, he sat on Tron for the entire 2.5 years that he was CEO, leaving the railroad down for 5 years, all to appease the bottom line investors. Meanwhile, the entirety of Epic Universe was built during this same time, with only minor delays during the same pandemic that we all went through. Not to mention all of the slashing of the planned Epcot overhaul.
Storybook Circus is another example of a mini land within Fantasyland, just like Piston Peak will be a mini land. We can play this semantics game all day, but if you have a better term, please let me know, and I will use that. Otherwise, I'll just call Piston Peak a mini land, since that's what it is.
Because some posters are already making assumptions based on the fact it hasn’t been mentioned since it was first announced that Disney most likely cancelled it.
You can call it whatever you want, but your defense for why it must contain at least two rides was that no land contains only one ride (which isn't even true; see Zootopia, some Adventure World lands, etc.), so the semantics were relevant.
First mistake is trying to make sense of things Disney does.
This just isn’t accurate. Chapek didn’t sit on TRON for years. The project was announced after only a modicum of design work was done to figure out its placement. Construction was able to start because they used fast-track project delivery and knew where it would be located. It had a rather reasonable schedule, even not accounting for it being a Disney project. It was foolishly paused and mothballed during the pandemic but the duration of that is better measured in weeks.
That right there could be a motivation. Spend the money on something bigger and better.
It's become two completely different topics, though, and when I was asking for an example of a land with a single attraction, I was genuinely curious, as I couldn't think of one in the US. I'm not really familiar with overseas parks, except DL Paris, which I just went to in the fall. I didn't bother going to the studios park, since it was mostly closed in preparation for the reimagining into AW, and I haven't really followed what's going on there. I do think that's a different market than what's in the US, though, and I was genuinely not thinking of overseas parks, but I'll happily take that info into account.