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MK Piston Peak and Villains Land Construction Thread

lazyboy97o

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As for Villains, that may be, but I'm of the belief that the land itself is planned. I don't actually believe the rumor that the coaster is changing to a different theme. Maybe the dark ride, but the fact that they are already building the foundations of these places tells me that there's only so much that could possibly be in flux, at this point. Even if they did call an audible, the time for the planning phase has got to be at a close well before August! You can't just start building things without a great deal of architectural planning, and although Villains might open later than Piston Peak, it's looking like construction will happen concurrently. I'm thinking that their openings might even be as short as 6 months apart, the way that they have planned construction and filed the permits together.
Disney often makes use of fast-track project delivery where construction starts before design work is complete. We’ve already seen changes between the water management permits, sanitary sewer permit and potable water permits.
 

lazyboy97o

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So what are they building over at Piston Peak?
Are you talking about Villains or Piston Peak? They've begun building a retaining wall at Piston Peak, at a very specific shape. I don't think that the land will change, as this point.
The retaining wall is a site element. There’s a lot that could still be modified without modifying the retaining wall.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Other than possibly the buildings, what do you think could change? The waterway is literally defining the shape of the terrain around it.
The “e”‘could change in many ways - 7 dwarves was always going to fit in the same location but was significantly cut down for example.

The 2nd attraction may or may not happen at all and may or may not have multiple options on the table.

There’s 2 examples.
 

lazyboy97o

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Other than possibly the buildings, what do you think could change? The waterway is literally defining the shape of the terrain around it. It's also just like it is in the concept art.
Piston Peak is a building. But also, I’m not arguing that anything is being changed. I’m pointing out that the work we see doesn’t require design work to be completed.
 

GordoInTheParks

Active Member
The “e”‘could change in many ways - 7 dwarves was always going to fit in the same location but was significantly cut down for example.

The 2nd attraction may or may not happen at all and may or may not have multiple options on the table.

There’s 2 examples.
I'm talking about the land itself, not the length of the main attraction. They are definitely not going to scrap the 2nd attraction. They might have changed it, but as we've seen in the different concept art, they would just use a different show building, or whatever. I think it's all already planned, but none of these proposed alterations change the land much at all.
 

Fox&Hound

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I'm talking about the land itself, not the length of the main attraction. They are definitely not going to scrap the 2nd attraction. They might have changed it, but as we've seen in the different concept art, they would just use a different show building, or whatever. I think it's all already planned, but none of these proposed alterations change the land much at all.
We never saw the 2nd cars attraction to my knowledge. It could easily be scrapped. I don’t think we’ve ever heard anything about it since when they first announced that a second family, friendly, smaller attraction would be present as well. And honestly, if they needed the space and it meant that the cars attraction could be that more much more impressive, I would rather they just give us one better cars ride than two subpar attractions!
 

nickys

Premium Member
I'm talking about the land itself, not the length of the main attraction. They are definitely not going to scrap the 2nd attraction. They might have changed it, but as we've seen in the different concept art, they would just use a different show building, or whatever. I think it's all already planned, but none of these proposed alterations change the land much at all.
What are you basing this assertion on?

What is planned and what is built can be two different things entirely. As examples I give you the Innoventions debacle at Epcot, and the third ride at Galaxy’s Edge. To say nothing of that Main Street Theatre or Mary Poppins. All had concept art.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
I'm talking about the land itself, not the length of the main attraction. They are definitely not going to scrap the 2nd attraction. They might have changed it, but as we've seen in the different concept art, they would just use a different show building, or whatever. I think it's all already planned, but none of these proposed alterations change the land much at all.

There is absolutely nothing that would prevent them from scrapping the 2nd attractions. Not saying it's going to happen, but it easily could.
 

GordoInTheParks

Active Member
Piston Peak is a building. But also, I’m not arguing that anything is being changed. I’m pointing out that the work we see doesn’t require design work to be completed.
It's a terrain-scaped land, with hidden show buildings tucked inside. It all has to be designed very precisely to work, and that's exactly why they have to file for design permits. We've only seen the water management ones, etc. These rock features will be very heavy, for instance, and the Florida ground needs to be prepped for the weight distribution, before vertical construction can even start. They cannot just start building something without design / development permits, though. They can re-file them if they change their plans, but is not like it was in 1955. They can't just start building a public-facing land with buildings without knowing exactly what it is that they're building.
 

rd805

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They couldn't possibly scrap the second attraction, which was named "TBD" in all the hype and hoopla.

The main footprint and main attraction layout has to be practically completed, with that said - they absolutely could cut the second attraction because....well that's what they do!
 

GordoInTheParks

Active Member
There is absolutely nothing that would prevent them from scrapping the 2nd attractions. Not saying it's going to happen, but it easily could.
I never said that anything would prevent them from removing the ride. I'm saying that there's no way that it will happen, as the land is clearly designed with the space for the second attraction, and that space is not just going to be left without anything there. They simply aren't going to open a land with one single attraction, mainly because there's no reason NOT to have a 2nd one, and the fact that it would be a PR nightmare to do so. Also, I think that talking about removing the thing that's been announced and is in the concept art, is just so completely hypothetical thing to even entertain, at this moment. The 2nd attraction won't shape the land like the main one. It will either be in a show building or be a flat ride, so it's kind of an irrelevant topic, on whether or not they build a model of the land itself.
 

GordoInTheParks

Active Member
The main footprint and main attraction layout has to be practically completed, with that said - they absolutely could cut the second attraction because....well that's what they do!
What land do you know has only one attraction? Even the Harry Potter land at Epic has the circus as a placeholder until they get their 2nd "E-ticket" built.
 

Ayla

Well-Known Member
I'm talking about the land itself, not the length of the main attraction. They are definitely not going to scrap the 2nd attraction. They might have changed it, but as we've seen in the different concept art, they would just use a different show building, or whatever. I think it's all already planned, but none of these proposed alterations change the land much at all.
You must be new to how disney plans/constructs new things. 'Cause what you said is not at all accurate.
 

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