News Coco Boat Ride Coming to Disney California Adventure

[coffeefan]

I’d imagine with the huge coaster towering above that they’d want as much of the queue as possible to be indoors. Unless they decide the setting for the attraction is actually on a seaside amusement park pier instead of Santa Cecilia, Mexico.

Most of it should be indoors like Indy. I expect an outdoor portion for spillover due to popularity, but not to establish a connection to a pier.

 

[mickEblu]

Most of it should be indoors like Indy. I expect an outdoor portion for spillover due to popularity, but not to establish a connection to a pier.

I don’t know what they ll do but why dedicate a spillover area outdoors? Why can’t that be part of the indoor queue as well? With Indy you are setting the stage outside of the temple and you are completely immersed between the jungle, temple and Treehouse. What do you have to gain with Coco for the spillover area being outdoors? I know Disney has in the past turned constraints into a positive but this is a tall task. Pun intended. If there is spill over it will happen organically and spill into Pixar Pier or Paradise Gardens. I think this could be a lot like MMRR with no real outdoor queue. I imagine when you get to the point where you are going over or under the backstage road/ parade route that you will be indoors from that point on.

 

[coffeefan]

I don’t know what they ll do but why dedicate a spillover area outdoors? Why can’t that be part of the indoor queue as well? With Indy you are setting the stage outside of the temple and you are completely immersed between the jungle, temple and Treehouse. What do you have to gain with Coco for the spillover area being outdoors? I know Disney has in the past turned constraints into a positive but this is a tall task. Pun intended. If there is spill over it will happen organically and spill into Pixar Pier or Paradise Gardens. I think this could be a lot like MMRR with no real outdoor queue. I imagine when you get to the point where you are going over or under the backstage road/ parade route that you will be indoors from that point on.

I’ve mentioned before that it should be designed as a pavilion, similar to the Mexico pavilion, to block sound. However, based on the concept art, there is an outdoor portion inside the building. Why that is, is anyone’s guess, though it is a common feature for that type of building, so it could serve as a palate cleanser from the pier or to set the scene.

 

[mickEblu]

there is an outdoor portion inside the building.

I’m confused on what you mean by this. Outdoor portion INSIDE the building?

 

[coffeefan]

I’m confused on what you mean by this. Outdoor portion INSIDE the building?

*After the entrance. Look at the concept art and notice that the top is not covered in the front portion.

 

[Gusey]

Judging from the concept art, the red circle is where you'll enter the showbuilding, and the green circle is an area in the courtyard for an extended queue. A bit like Ratatouille at Epcot has the indoor queue where you're on the rooftops, but also an outdoor section specifically planned as an extended queue space

 

[DrStarlander]

My preferred approach is still with Paradise Gardens becoming Santa Cecilia and a tunnel from the graveyard under the Simba walkway to the attraction queue and show building behind Incredicoaster. I printed some of these out and put them under the windshield wipers at 1401 Flower St. so I'm pretty confident this is the direction they're going.

 

[Adventureland Veranda]

DrStarlander, can you add the San Angel Inn to your diagram and then go back to Flower Street? Thanks!

 

[DrStarlander]

DrStarlander, can you add the San Angel Inn to your diagram and then go back to Flower Street? Thanks!

Well I had dropped this one off earlier and then I got out-voted here on the ride-view restaurant stuff.

Plus the guy in the WDI parking lot was giving me looks so I best stay away for a while.

 

[mickEblu]

Judging from the concept art, the red circle is where you'll enter the showbuilding, and the green circle is an area in the courtyard for an extended queue. A bit like Ratatouille at Epcot has the indoor queue where you're on the rooftops, but also an outdoor section specifically planned as an extended queue space
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Oh ok I think me and coffee fan might be saying the same thing. That’s just about where I see the indoor queue starting in mind. I just don’t view that as an outdoor queue as much as just necessary space between the current parade gate and where the queue/ show building entrance will be. Will they use that area as queue space when they need to? Probably but it’s just not how my mind registers that space.

 

[mickEblu]

Well I had dropped this one off earlier and then I got out-voted here on the ride-view restaurant stuff.
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Plus the guy in the WDI parking lot was giving me looks so I best stay away for a while.

The more time that passes it looks like that only the building the far corner may be going for Coco and that kind of tracks with them scraping every inch they could by reclaiming the unused road and all the green space along DL drive. More likely they do something like that when they absolutely need the space and less likely if they were also getting rid of the other building and parade building. Do you have a mock up of this scenario? Where the current backstage road stays where it’s at and they keep all buildings except the one in the far corner?

 

[DrStarlander]

The more time that passes it looks like that only the building the far corner may be going for Coco and that kind of tracks with them scraping every inch they could by reclaiming the unused road and all the green space along DL drive. More likely they do that when they absolutely need the space and less likely if they were also getting rid of the other building and parade building. Do you have a mock up of this scenario? Where the current backstage road stays where it’s at and they keep all buildings except the one in the far corner?

I did briefly scan through the half-dozen or so versions I've played with and I don't think I've done one like that (if I'm understanding you correctly that the attraction/show building wouldn't have a perimeter service road between it and Disneyland Dr. but rather the building would be immediately adjacent to the property line? (Correct me if you had something else in mind.)

There may be a setback that would dictate some space anyway, and just emergency access would seem (to me) to require it, like this area behind Galaxy's Edge.

 

[mickEblu]

I did briefly scan through the half-dozen or so versions I've played with and I don't think I've done one like that (if I'm understanding you correctly that the attraction/show building wouldn't have a perimeter service road between it and Disneyland Dr. but rather the building would be immediately adjacent to the property line? (Correct me if you had something else in mind.)

There may be a setback that would dictate some space anyway, and just emergency access would seem (to me) to require it, like this area behind Galaxy's Edge.
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Yeah pretty much this. I’m not sure how much space is actually required between show building and property line do you? If that road is required like you suggest than I wonder if that would be in addition to the current backstage road that’s skirts alongside the parade building or in addition to.

 

[Disney Irish]

My guess is still everything goes in that corner, the only X factor is the parade building whether that stays or goes, but the other two seem to be on the chopping block.

 

[DrStarlander]

Yeah pretty much this. I’m not sure how much space is actually required between show building and property line do you? If that road is required like you suggest than I wonder if that would be in addition to the current backstage road that’s skirts alongside the parade building or in addition to.

I don't know the setback off hand, and when I see them site buildings like this, it undermines my hunch it could be required. Really just don't know. And I don't know much about Operations in terms of what they need to circulate vehicles around (e.g., if they only had the parade/internal road, which intersected the guests walkway with a gate, would that work?

 

[mickEblu]

My guess is still everything goes in that corner, the only X factor is the parade building whether that stays or goes, but the other two seem to be on the chopping block.

I hope at least that the other non parade building goes too.

 

[mickEblu]

I don't know the setback off hand, and when I see them site buildings like this, it undermines my hunch it could be required. Really just don't know. And I don't know much about Operations in terms of what they need to circulate vehicles around (e.g., if they only had the parade/internal road, which intersected the guests walkway with a gate, would that work?
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I honestly have no idea hahah.

What if it didn’t intersect with guests and we walked over or under it?

 

[Disney Irish]

I hope at least that other non parade building goes too.

Yes, one in the corner is maintenance (the for sure one we know is going) and the other is ODV, both I would guess to be going as they can be moved into other on-site facilities.

 

[mickEblu]

Yes, one in the corner is maintenance (the for sure one we know is going) and the other is ODV, both I would guess to be going as they can be moved into other on-site facilities.

I’m pretty sure the parade building is sticking around but I’m 50/50 on the ODV. Hopefully you’re right.

 

[DrStarlander]

This could be the setback, 11 feet. Consider this info provisional until someone turns up something different: