MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[CoastalElite64]

I think you might enjoy being a Six Flags passholder then

I don't know of any Six Flags rides close to anything like the Cars attractions.

 

[CoastalElite64]

Im not reading fighting, anyway question, is the ride's system/track make it possible for the ride to travel backwards, as curious if they'll improve the small footprint by having backwards or indoor sections like Frozen, RR, or GG in Hong Kong

They could have some scenes where the cars stop to watch a show scene like at RSR.

 

[SamusAranX]

I agree with much of what was said. So do a lot of people.

There’s no need to be so rude.

If Disney were all just “rides, rides, rides,” with less regard to the holistic experience and scenic cohesiveness, then it will lose what sets it apart from the theme park industry. I mean, for cripes sake, Universal built a brand new theme park from the ground up in the 20s and dedicated a significant amount of space to a body of water. You can argue if it’s hit or miss, but they tried.

But others have stated this much better then I can already in this thread

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

I think you might enjoy being a Six Flags passholder then

Not caring about a river =/= being a six flags fan

 

[Chi84]

If Disney were all just “rides, rides, rides,” with less regard to the holistic experience and scenic cohesiveness, then it will lose what sets it apart from the theme park industry. I mean, for cripes sake, Universal built a brand new theme park from the ground up in the 20s and dedicated a significant amount of space to a body of water. You can argue if it’s hit or miss, but they tried.

But others have stated this much better then I can already in this thread

Disney is nowhere near being just “rides, rides, rides.” It’s clearly maintaining its place in the industry.

That doesn’t mean everyone is going to like everything it does. That has never been the case - at least not as long as I’ve been visiting.

 

[lazyboy97o]

which does not include the ROA if its going to stop other things from being built.

Everything is preventing other things from being built.

2. Hey man, it's just a simple to explain narrative. Not really an example to deal with the exacts of real world city building, I'm not an architect. I'm using it as an example of why just keeping everything old and "just build something new elsewhere" doesn't always work.

It’s not a simple example. You thought it would be a simple example because you weren’t familiar with other issues involved. You’re still missing that the reasons aren’t just because it’s old or has been there whether it be in your example or in this actual project.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Disney is nowhere near being just “rides, rides, rides.” It’s clearly maintaining its place in the industry.

That’s not what was said, and is very much the end result of many arguments in defense of Disney’s actions. People take liking Six Flags as an insult but then argue for the decision making mindset that lead to modern day Six Flags.

 

[HMF]

That’s not what was said, and is very much the end result of many arguments in defense of Disney’s actions. People take liking Six Flags as an insult but then argue for the decision making mindset that lead to modern day Six Flags.

With today's fanbase they could have kept the circa 2001 DCA open for decades with minimal changes.

 

[Chi84]

That’s not what was said, and is very much the end result of many arguments in defense of Disney’s actions. People take liking Six Flags as an insult but then argue for the decision making mindset that lead to modern day Six Flags.

My point is that Disney is not in danger of becoming Six Flags despite the “decision making mindset” that you don’t like.

I believe there is just too much of a gap and the decisions are just not that bad. You probably disagree and that fine.

Fans of the original Disney theme park designs are a subset of WDW fans. As the number of people who grew up alongside Disney gets smaller, there will be less of a connection to it.

Disney is making the decisions it believes are necessary to extend its popularity into the future. There are posters here (not you) desperate to convince people the company is failing despite all indications to the contrary.

The truth is we all argue based on our personal preferences. We’re talking about a special and unique entertainment venue. Some consider it an art form that needs to be preserved while others don’t hold it to that level at all.

I’ve seen ridiculous statements that people lack soul, have no appreciation for the arts, lack judgement and whatnot.

Disney is unique. Let people enjoy it however they like.

 

[lazyboy97o]

My point is that Disney is not in danger of becoming Six Flags despite the “decision making mindset” that you don’t like.

I believe there is just too much of a gap and the decisions are just not that bad. You probably disagree and that fine.

Fans of the original Disney theme park designs are a subset of WDW fans. As the number of people who grew up alongside Disney gets smaller, there will be less of a connection to it.

Disney is making the decisions it believes are necessary to extend its popularity into the future. There are posters here (not you) desperate to convince people the company is failing despite all indications to the contrary.

The truth is we all argue based on our personal preferences. We’re talking about a special and unique entertainment venue. Some consider it an art form that needs to be preserved while others don’t hold it to that level at all.

I’ve seen ridiculous statements that people lack soul, have no appreciation for the arts, lack judgement and whatnot.

Disney is unique. Let people enjoy it however they like.

Not everyone argues just for their personal preferences. There are plenty of people who will point out that something isn’t for them but makes sense.

Disney isn’t just unique by default. You can’t have it both ways that they’re unique and there’s no reasons for what has made the experience unique over decades.

 

[Chi84]

Not everyone argues just for their personal preferences. There are plenty of people who will point out that something isn’t for them but makes sense.

Disney isn’t just unique by default. You can’t have it both ways that they’re unique and there’s no reasons for what has made the experience unique over decades.

I’m not saying there aren’t reasons for what made them unique. But I don’t believe they’re abandoning those reasons even though I dislike some of what they’ve done.

Have you ever heard the saying “They don’t make things the way they used to?”

This also applies to Disney. They held out longer than most but our society is drastically different from when Disney started and it will change in response.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I’m not saying there aren’t reasons for what made them unique. But I don’t believe they’re abandoning those reasons even though I dislike some of what they’ve done.

Have you ever heard the saying “They don’t make things the way they used to?”

This also applies to Disney. They held out longer than most but our society is drastically different from when Disney started and it will change in response.

If society had moved past old fashioned Disney then the Magic Kingdom and Disneyland wouldn’t be the most popular parks in the world.

Even the world’s newest theme park is defined by a 70+ year old idea.

 

[Chi84]

If society had moved past old fashioned Disney then the Magic Kingdom and Disneyland wouldn’t be the most popular parks in the world.

Even the world’s newest theme park is defined by a 70+ year old idea.

People have loved Disney through the years but WDW today is vastly different from what it was on my first visit in 1984.

Is it the most visited theme park because it’s old-fashioned or because it’s making just enough changes to keep it fresh for people?

As I said I don’t think they’re abandoning what made them great. I think their biggest issue is with how expensive it is.

ETA: MK and DLR specifically? Because of their multi-generational appeal, which hasn’t changed.

 

[Dreamer19]

I agree with much of what was said. So do a lot of people.

There’s no need to be so rude.

I won’t speak for the person you’re responding to, but I think it’s about standards. What makes Disney different? If the answer is nothing, then why not just Six Flags?

 

[SteveAZee]

People have loved Disney through the years but WDW today is vastly different from what it was on my first visit in 1984.

Is it the most visited theme park because it’s old-fashioned or because it’s making just enough changes to keep it fresh for people?

As I said I don’t think they’re abandoning what made them great. I think their biggest issue is with how expensive it is.

ETA: MK and DLR specifically? Because of their multi-generational appeal, which hasn’t changed.

If someone were to build an exact replica of 1971 Magic Kingdom, I do wonder what the attendance would be like from a 2026 crowd.

 

[Chi84]

I won’t speak for the person you’re responding to, but I think it’s about standards. What makes Disney different? If the answer is nothing, then why not just Six Flags?

Right. Disney has the standards that makes it different.

Suggesting that making changes means they no longer have standards and are no better than Six Flags is hyperbolic.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

I won’t speak for the person you’re responding to, but I think it’s about standards. What makes Disney different? If the answer is nothing, then why not just Six Flags?

Just find it hilarious to compare a park that has a completely different business model, nothing alike in rides, and nothing that even resembles a Disney park but people go "uh no theming so its the same as putting IP everywhere?
Despite the fact that Disney makes purposebuilt rides that fit specific Ips while Six Flags paints a coaster a certain color and slaps a DC characters name on it.


Six Flags parks have rivers with boats, they have train rides, they have non IP attractions, they have family and thrill rides, they have all of that stuff. That is NEVER even part of what separated Disney from Six Flags. Judging the quality of something that hasn't even been built yet would be a gross misuse of time when: 1. It doesn't look like anything Six Flags could do. and 2. Is again not even out yet.

 

[Chi84]

If someone were to build an exact replica of 1971 Magic Kingdom, I do wonder what the attendance would be like from a 2026 crowd.

I’m sure I’d love it but I wouldn’t take my family to the exact same place year after year. Same for the current MK if WDW hadn’t grown the way it did.

 

[TheRealSkull]

Not caring about a river =/= being a six flags fan

The problem is we are dumbing down the integral experience of what makes Disney special to caring about "a river."

 

[Chi84]

The problem is we are dumbing down the integral experience of what makes Disney special to caring about "a river."

The river was certainly a part of what made Disney special but there is so much more to what makes Disney unique.