MK New Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin Updates Coming to Walt Disney World

[MerlinTheGoat]

That’s the point.

Have you been following the thread?

It’s gonna come back regardless because it’s the climate we have here.

There is a lot that can be done to reduce or eliminate the issue entirely. Some of which includes preventative maintenance. But one substantial thing is better climate control. A major factor that lead to mold growing out of control in many buildings across property was Disney's "green initiative" they adopted in the late 2000s (cost cutting in actuality but that's another topic). This included lowering the AC power significantly. Buildings became much more humid as a result of this, making them a breeding ground for mold and mildew even in buildings that didn't have water features.

That said, Buzz's mold problems weren't exclusively due to improper climate control (though that certainly didn't help). For some time, its building was suffering from a leaky roof that wasn't dealt with in a timely manner. I don't know when this leak first began and when they finally patched it, but it ended up completely rotting large chunks of the ceiling out, visible even in the dark. That photo Boston Bruins posted appears to show a patch job they applied to it, but some years back these were just holes that you could see exposed wires and such through. Mold began growing on the props and curtains too, which would glow brightly with UV light. At one point, some of the walls close to the vehicles near the beginning of the ride before you enter the first big room were absolutely caked with mold. You could smell it and everything, and it wasn't pleasant either. This damage affected the entire building complex, including the Peoplemover tunnel which had rotten falling pieces of ceiling for a while before they were finally patched up.

If they've done a top to bottom deep clean of all the mold and repaired/painted everything that was damaged, and the roof is no longer leaking and they keep the climate control at the levels it used to run at when the ride first opened, then the ride should remain mold free for a very long time. What will end up causing it to grow again is if they reduce the AC or if there's another leak in the roof.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Uncontrolled moisture is what causes the mildew/mold, replacing ceiling tiles does not correct that.

So until this becomes an issue that either causes measurable health issues, is detrimental to the operation of the ride itself, or causes customer dissatisfaction, in all likelihood it won't be addressed. You think the ceiling is the only place mildew/mold is growing inside those buildings..............in Florida???

I'm not defending a corporate overlord here. I'm just telling you how businesses operate from my experience.

You started off by calling people ridiculous for noticing the poor state of the ceiling. That wasn’t stating how things are.

You should also know that damaged and missing ceiling tiles are themselves often a code violation.

 

[HMF]

There is a lot that can be done to reduce or eliminate the issue entirely. Some of which includes preventative maintenance. But one substantial thing is better climate control. A major factor that lead to mold growing out of control in many buildings across property was Disney's "green initiative" they adopted in the late 2000s (cost cutting in actuality but that's another topic). This included lowering the AC power significantly. Buildings became much more humid as a result of this, making them a breeding ground for mold and mildew even in buildings that didn't have water features.

That said, Buzz's mold problems weren't exclusively due to improper climate control (though that certainly didn't help). For some time, its building was suffering from a leaky roof that wasn't dealt with in a timely manner. I don't know when this leak first began and when they finally patched it, but it ended up completely rotting large chunks of the ceiling out, visible even in the dark. That photo Boston Bruins posted appears to show a patch job they applied to it, but some years back these were just holes that you could see exposed wires and such through. Mold began growing on the props and curtains too, which would glow brightly with UV light. At one point, some of the walls close to the vehicles near the beginning of the ride before you enter the first big room were absolutely caked with mold. You could smell it and everything, and it wasn't pleasant either. This damage affected the entire building complex, including the Peoplemover tunnel which had rotten falling pieces of ceiling for a while before they were finally patched up.

If they've done a top to bottom deep clean of all the mold and repaired/painted everything that was damaged, and the roof is no longer leaking and they keep the climate control at the levels it used to run at when the ride first opened, then the ride should remain mold free for a very long time. What will end up causing it to grow again is if they reduce the AC or if there's another leak in the roof.

When it opened as Buzz in 1998 or when it opened as "If You Had Wings" in 1972?

 

[DCBaker]

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

When it opened as Buzz in 1998 or when it opened as "If You Had Wings" in 1972?

Buzz specifically. It should be noted that even in the final years of Dreamflight's operation, that ride and its facility were still in good condition. It was even easier to see the walls and ceiling back then too since the ride was lit with natural light and not UV. By the time Buzz opened, the roof still wasn't leaking yet and WDW's maintenance and climate control standards were still relatively high. Again, Buzz's mold issues began to crop up in the latter half of the 2000s to early 2010s. When the roof became damaged and their new "green" climate control policies kicked in to exacerbate things.

 

[eaj626]

Updating the viewmaster was a nice touch, but why would they change Buzz's spiel the way they did? They changed a few words or phrases here or there but did not update the animation on his face, so his lips aren't always in sync with his actual speech.

 

[WaltsTreasureChest]

Really thought they were gonna remove the projecting face on Buzz :/

 

[eaj626]

Listening to the end of this POV, I'm 99.9% certain that the unload music is "To Infinity and Beyond" from the Woody's Roundup album. It's obviously a more orchestral, military march-style arrangement but the song was always written as a march so it works quite well. So well in fact that 26 years ago they used a different orchestral arrangement as the credits for the BLoSC movie.

I said it earlier, the loss of the original soundtrack for the ride is a shame, but this new one is already growing on me.

 

[SplashJacket]

New signage looks good though some W.I.P.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

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This is nice but the composition feels a touch too cramped, especially in the ride description. Enlarging the icon and tightening the body copy would improve the hierarchy and create some much-needed breathing room. Placing “Space Ranger Spin” on its own line would also strengthen readability. The repeated use of “Buzz Lightyear” is redundant and could be removed.

If the intent was to be informative, it works but it still isn’t very punchy. I also miss the “Join us!" and "Calling Star Command” type calls to action.

Looking forward to seeing the completed attraction marquee.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

Uncontrolled moisture is what causes the mildew/mold, replacing ceiling tiles does not correct that.

So until this becomes an issue that either causes measurable health issues, is detrimental to the operation of the ride itself, or causes customer dissatisfaction, in all likelihood it won't be addressed. You think the ceiling is the only place mildew/mold is growing inside those buildings..............in Florida???

I'm not defending a corporate overlord here. I'm just telling you how businesses operate from my experience.

Maybe they can get DampRid to be the attraction sponsor.

 

[davis_unoxx]

Buzz specifically. It should be noted that even in the final years of Dreamflight's operation, that ride and its facility were still in good condition. It was even easier to see the walls and ceiling back then too since the ride was lit with natural light and not UV. By the time Buzz opened, the roof still wasn't leaking yet and WDW's maintenance and climate control standards were still relatively high. Again, Buzz's mold issues began to crop up in the latter half of the 2000s to early 2010s. When the roof became damaged and their new "green" climate control policies kicked in to exacerbate things.

Any chance they will turn down temp for AC again? Spaceship Earth is very hot on approach now, and would be good to get moisture out of these buildings for mold and such...

 

[etc98]

This is nice but the composition feels a touch too cramped, especially in the ride description. Enlarging the icon and tightening the body copy would improve the hierarchy and create some much-needed breathing room. Placing “Space Ranger Spin” on its own line would also strengthen readability. The repeated use of “Buzz Lightyear” is redundant and could be removed.

If the intent was to be informative, it works but it still isn’t very punchy. I also miss the “Join us!" and "Calling Star Command” type calls to action.

Looking forward to seeing the completed attraction marquee.

Looks like the wording is identical to what was there before.

Although they added the part about children under 7 needing to be accompanied by someone over 14

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Any chance they will turn down temp for AC again? Spaceship Earth is very hot on approach now, and would be good to get moisture out of these buildings for mold and such...

It's a cost cutting measure, so highly doubtful they will reverse course on that. Even if it did end up costing them a lot of money in the long term. And yes the ascent on SSE has been a furnace for years now.

Side tangent, there are ways of reducing energy consumption without impacting guest comfort and the physical condition of their facilities. Putting solar panels on top of show buildings is one example (as the Disney resorts at Tokyo, Hong Kong and Shanghai have done to a great many of their facilities) as opposed to cutting down a forest to do it on vacant land just to try and earn brownie points with the public. Or as Paris has now done, solar panel canopies over parking lot spaces (which also incidentally provides shade to guest vehicles). These all cost money though, which is why they'd rather just reduce climate control instead. Making guests more miserable and leading to an increase in humidity and, in turn, mold growth and gradual deterioration of the interiors of their facilities.

 

[co10064]

New signage looks good though some W.I.P.
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Marquee/entrance looks incredible compared to what was there before.

 

[HMF]

Buzz specifically. It should be noted that even in the final years of Dreamflight's operation, that ride and its facility were still in good condition. It was even easier to see the walls and ceiling back then too since the ride was lit with natural light and not UV. By the time Buzz opened, the roof still wasn't leaking yet and WDW's maintenance and climate control standards were still relatively high. Again, Buzz's mold issues began to crop up in the latter half of the 2000s to early 2010s. When the roof became damaged and their new "green" climate control policies kicked in to exacerbate things.

The latter half of the 2000s through the early 2010s was when most of the issues WDW is facing became apparent.

 

[HMF]

Updating the viewmaster was a nice touch, but why would they change Buzz's spiel the way they did? They changed a few words or phrases here or there but did not update the animation on his face, so his lips aren't always in sync with his actual speech.

Likely budgetary reasons just like most of their obvious half-a$$ moves.

 

[HMF]

Putting solar panels on top of show buildings is one example.

You mean like the attraction that literally had that and then had them removed so they could turn the building into a queue for a glorified Marvel commercial?

 

[HMF]

Marquee/entrance looks incredible compared to what was there before.

What was there before was essentially just a retrofitted version of the marquee for the previous attraction in that space.

 

[eddie104]

Likely budgetary reasons just like most of their obvious half-a$$ moves.

Get a grip.

This refurb is an overall major upgrade.