MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[DrStarlander]

But there are posters saying the parks are basically empty and the waits are insignificant. How does one reconcile this?

I pay more attention to DLR crowds, particularly via FreshBaked. He'll be there one week and it's ghost town and he's gobsmacked how empty it is. Then the next week's video will be all about how absolutely packed the park is.

So, I don't get the impression we are in an era when the parks are always empty and there are no waits. Are there not busy days/weeks/months and slow days/weeks/months? And even if it's slow, do the biggest attractions which these people want to go on perhaps still have long waits even if lesser attractions they don't care about have short waits?

That is, and I'm just hypothesizing, could a group of adults arrive at Epcot, discover it has hours-long waits for the couple of attractions they want to go on like GotG and Test Track, and they say "forget that" and -- because they have no interest in any other attractions -- go get drinks?

 

[Chi84]

I pay more attention to DLR crowds, particularly via FreshBaked. He'll be there one week and it's ghost town and he's gobsmacked how empty it is. Then the next week's video will be all about how absolutely packed the park is.

So, I don't get the impression we are in an era when the parks are always empty and there are no waits. Are there not busy days/weeks/months and slow days/weeks/months? And even if it's slow, do the biggest attractions which these people want to go on perhaps still have long waits even if lesser attractions they don't care about have short waits?

That is, and I'm just hypothesizing, could a group of adults arrive at Epcot, discover it has hours-long waits for the couple of attractions they want to go on like GotG and Test Track, and they say "forget that" and -- because they have no interest in any other attractions -- go get drinks?

I don’t think so. On the other hand nothing is impossible.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

The drinking problem at EPCOT is probably getting worse because it is a more depressing place to be especially if you compare it to what it was.

This is one of the wildest things you have ever said, and I truly mean that

 

[Casper Gutman]

“A lot of people get drunk at EPCOT and that’s integral to the park’s business model but they’re not getting drunk because they’re depressed,” is a true statement but absolutely not one that reflects well on the resort. It’s also not a future for the park even the most critically disinclined would have embraced thirty years ago.

 

[JD80]

I'm not sure I ever saw a thread where every single post is insulting someone else. Great job everyone.

 

[Purduevian]

I'm not sure I ever saw a thread where every single post is insulting someone else. Great job everyone.

Fair. I don't think myself and some poster will ever see eye to eye on some things... and that's ok.

Regarding Cars: I find it interesting that Disney left a big square still elevated in the middle of the land instead of flattening it all the way to ground level:

 

[James Alucobond]

Regarding Cars: I find it interesting that Disney left a big square still elevated in the middle of the land instead of flattening it all the way to ground level:

Probably because it will be leveled out toward the retaining wall once it's complete.

 

[Chester&Hester Enthusiast]

I mean if you don’t want kids in wheelchairs to be able to play in MKs only play place, just say it.

Holy strawman, bro. Are you even remotely capable of having a conversation with someone you disagree with? It's genuinely insane sometimes.

I refuse to believe you thought this was a good faith statement.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Fair. I don't think myself and some poster will ever see eye to eye on some things... and that's ok.

Regarding Cars: I find it interesting that Disney left a big square still elevated in the middle of the land instead of flattening it all the way to ground level:
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It's so that Josh and Thomas, when they visit, have an elevated platform to pose on for photos while wearing their hard hats and safety vests, duh!!

 

[JD80]

Probably because it will be leveled out toward the retaining wall once it's complete.

Moving a lot of dirt is expensive!

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Holy strawman, bro. Are you even remotely capable of having a conversation with someone you disagree with? It's genuinely insane sometimes.

I refuse to believe you thought this was a good faith statement.

*hyperbole as already stated

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

The drinking problem at EPCOT is probably getting worse because it is a more depressing place to be especially if you compare it to what it was.

Yeah we all know the 20/30 year old crowd is just downing pints because they can't ride Maelstrom or Ellens Universe of Energy anymore and are forced to ride Frozen and Guardians. Really this was an expected reaction that Disney should have anticipated its the classic (nostalgic for a thing you barely knew and drowning your sorrows with copious amounts of Viking Coffee and Ottawa Apples)

 

[Disstevefan1]

Fair. I don't think myself and some poster will ever see eye to eye on some things... and that's ok.

Regarding Cars: I find it interesting that Disney left a big square still elevated in the middle of the land instead of flattening it all the way to ground level:
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Magnificent desolation...

 

[lazyboy97o]

Yes, it’s a purposefully dumb take because I’m sick of people putting words in my mouth or calling me stuff to dismiss me in the same way. It’s hyperbole, it’s obviously such an outrageous take that it borderlines on nonsensical. Not to mention that he started it by saying that I was bad for getting rid of stuff that “all abilities can enjoy” which is straight up a falsehood that even a moment of reflection would have told him that TSI is not “all inclusive”

What’s stopping TSI from being made wheelchair accessible? Are you serious man? Have you went on the island or just forgotten all the tight hallways/corners, stairs, uneven terrain etc. This would be a major construction project that would require large machinery and millions of dollars easily for an attraction that people did not attend. Spoiler alert, Disney knows almost precisely how many people went to the island, they almost certainly have gotten loads of complaints from parents that either they or their kids could not have fun with the others on this island

A pathetic rationalization that might reflect why you don’t get the responses you think you deserve.

 

[Chester&Hester Enthusiast]

*hyperbole as already stated

That's a wildly weak cop-out, but okay. Carry on clogging up threads with your hyperbole rather than just having a civilized adult conversation.

Like, people are offering detailed nuanced posts backing up their opinions, and you're just trolling. It's so childish.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

That's a wildly weak cop-out, but okay. Carry on clogging up threads with your hyperbole rather than just having a civilized adult conversation.

Like, people are offering detailed nuanced posts backing up their opinions, and you're just trolling. It's so childish.

Yes, detailed and nuanced. Very adult

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

A pathetic rationalization that might reflect why you don’t get the responses you think you deserve.

What?

 

[Chi84]

It seems a few posters here are (rightfully) aggrieved but all of this back-and-forth blaming is derailing the thread.

Why not just take a minute and start fresh and on-topic.

 

[easyrowrdw]

I don't know about drinking because the park is "depressing" but I can see drinking because the park is "discouraging." That is, I can see a category of guests who gets to the park and confront hours-long waits for the attractions, and that's just not their jam -- waiting for hours. So they say "let's go get a drink." It's fun for them and something totally actionable and in their control, unlike getting on the attractions.

That’s Hollywood Studios lol

 

[mysto]

Regarding Cars: I find it interesting that Disney left a big square still elevated in the middle of the land instead of flattening it all the way to ground level:

I noticed that too. I think it's approximately at the level they want the final grade. That dirt was under the island and has compacted there for a long time so they didn't disturb it. The area around it where the beautiful river used to be will be filled in layer by layer, each layer being packed down as they go. I would think a big vibratory roller would be the way to compact it, but I don't see one in the photos.