TrainsOfDisney
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I don’t know. What was the issue with 1971 Tomorrowland?Funny to act like 1971 MK just had perfect design all around when Tomorrowland was always… ya know.
I don’t know. What was the issue with 1971 Tomorrowland?Funny to act like 1971 MK just had perfect design all around when Tomorrowland was always… ya know.
Mic drop, slam dunk, etc.Running from one flashy thing to the next because you can’t sit still and appreciate the beauty of the rivers is exactly why Disney’s magic is being wasted on this generation. Attention spans these days are pathetic. The riverboat and island aren’t filler. They’re the care, craft and storytelling that actually make Disney special from other places. But subtlety and patience are too much work for people who can’t slow down. Lightning Lane is ruining the patience of people to the point where the beauty of the Rivers of America became a true afterthought. Such a shame. It is all just another amusement park, and that’s on them.
Have fun rushing to grab another paid Lightning Lane. Don’t be shocked when the general crowds are even more impatient and entitled once these new experiences open.
My fraternal twin sons are 24, and their thoughts and opinions mirror yours.I’m 24, so let’s not turn this into the usual ‘older generation vs younger generation’ excuse. This isn’t about age. It’s about mindset.
No one’s saying you’re wrong for running ride to ride, but when that becomes the dominant way people experience the parks, it absolutely changes what Disney builds and prioritizes. That’s how you end up with less atmosphere, less detail, and more emphasis on Lightning Lane. Also less clean parks.
When people treat Disney like a $200 ride marathon, of course those elements that made it once great start disappearing.
So yeah, enjoy it however you want, but don’t be surprised when the parks start feeling more like any other amusement park. That shift doesn’t happen out of nowhere.
And honestly, if your whole Disney day is planned around sprinting from one attraction to the next, that’s not even a vacation anymore—that’s a schedule. People love to complain about how stressful Disney is, but then build an experience that’s nothing but stress. That mindset is exactly what takes away from everything the parks are actually designed to offer. You are giving Disney more amo to make it a more stressful experience.
I think they are referring to how much like Disneyland's, WDW's Tomorrowland opened very unfinished. The only 2 rides open was the Speedway and Skyway, and neither of those can really be called "futuristic". Same with the following attractions America the Beautiful and If You Had Wings. Arguably even Flight to the Moon which opened by the end of that year was already "outdated" due to the moon landing started in 1969. It wasn't until 1974 with The Star Jets and 1975 with Space Mountain that you could consider the land complete. The land was very flat, and open. with a huge construction wall laying across literally the entire land.I don’t know. What was the issue with 1971 Tomorrowland?
The new restrooms at Casey’s are so nice too, ironically.View attachment 912476
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Man it's crazy to think these are two pictures of Magic Kingdoms. HUGE difference.
At least grab a shot with the monorail going past if you’re going to have a ferry in the other one!!! Haha2 Magic kingdoms on one feed.
A world of difference.
It even just looked empty manI don’t know. What was the issue with 1971 Tomorrowland?
Funny enough, to make the joke complete that was just some random bathrooms that said they were from Disneyland Paris a long time ago. I thought it would illustrate the point well though that we can take two dumb photos and compare them for some reasonThe new restrooms at Casey’s are so nice too, ironically.
If you look at photos from the 70s of the parks you’ll notice a lot of things, less than stellar.
But also some positives.
It’s a mixed bag.
Yes, it’s a purposefully dumb take because I’m sick of people putting words in my mouth or calling me stuff to dismiss me in the same way. It’s hyperbole, it’s obviously such an outrageous take that it borderlines on nonsensical. Not to mention that he started it by saying that I was bad for getting rid of stuff that “all abilities can enjoy” which is straight up a falsehood that even a moment of reflection would have told him that TSI is not “all inclusive”That’s a rather awful take with no purpose other than to baselessly denigrate someone. Nothing prevented Tom Sawer Island from being made more accessible.
Even when that “stuff” was something that guests of all ages and abilities can enjoy together?
I never said that you were bad?Not to mention that he started it by saying that I was bad for getting rid of stuff that “all abilities can enjoy” which is straight up a falsehood that even a moment of reflection would have told him that TSI is not “all inclusive”
The drinking problem at EPCOT is probably getting worse because it is a more depressing place to be especially if you compare it to what it was.Add in the drinking culture getting worse at EPCOT, and it’s pretty clear some people are choosing to turn the parks into something they were never meant to be. Not saying it’s entirely Disney’s fault, but this marathon, maximize-every-second mindset is absolutely part of the problem and it’s dragging the experience down with it.
Nobody is going to Epcot, getting depressed about its current condition and then getting drunk in response.The drinking problem at EPCOT is probably getting worse because it is a more depressing place to be especially if you compare it to what it was.
Except you deliberately chose two pictures when the original was from Martin’s X feed. Not the flex or “gotcha!” you thought you had.
Add in the drinking culture getting worse at EPCOT, and it’s pretty clear some people are choosing to turn the parks into something they were never meant to be.
The drinking problem at EPCOT is probably getting worse because it is a more depressing place to be especially if you compare it to what it was.
I don't know about drinking because the park is "depressing" but I can see drinking because the park is "discouraging." That is, I can see a category of guests who gets to the park and confront hours-long waits for the attractions, and that's just not their jam -- waiting for hours. So they say "let's go get a drink." It's fun for them and something totally actionable and in their control, unlike getting on the attractions.Nobody is going to Epcot, getting depressed about its current condition and then getting drunk in response.
Be so for real.The drinking problem at EPCOT is probably getting worse because it is a more depressing place to be especially if you compare it to what it was.
I don't know about drinking because the park is "depressing" but I can see drinking because the park is "discouraging." That is, I can see a category of guests who gets to the park and confront hours-long waits for the attractions, and that's just not their jam -- waiting for hours. So they say "let's go get a drink." It's fun for them and something totally actionable and in their control, unlike getting on the attractions.
The drinking problem at EPCOT is probably getting worse because it is a more depressing place to be especially if you compare it to what it was.
But there are posters saying the parks are basically empty and the waits are insignificant. How does one reconcile this?I don't know about drinking because the park is "depressing" but I can see drinking because the park is "discouraging." That is, I can see a category of guests who gets to the park and confront hours-long waits for the attractions, and that's just not their jam -- waiting for hours. So they say "let's go get a drink." It's fun for them and something totally actionable and in their control, unlike getting on the attractions.
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