DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[lazyboy97o]

“Facade modification” is essentially a new coat of paint. People keep pretending this is something it isn’t. I mean, being more excited for this then for Villains because Villains isn’t going to be a “horror” land strikes me as mind-bendingly strange.

They’ve already ripped off portions of the building envelopes. It is significantly more extensive than paint or just applied props.

 

[mattpeto]

They’ve already ripped off portions of the building envelopes. It is significantly more extensive than paint or just applied props.

It's like they might have needed more time in the courtyard all along.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Curious as I am not well versed in construction, anyone able to explain the purpose of the different layers used in the coasters floor? If I remember there was an initial layer of cement(?) followed by conduit covered by sand then another layer of cement which now appears will be covered again with conduit and the initial coaster footers? Should we expect any additional layers? If not, based on construction so far, do we expect they would install the coaster track then build the show building around it at this point or still to early to tell?

So, first, cement is an ingredient in concrete and other cementicious materials like stucco.

The first layer of concrete is a mud slab. It’s basically there to provide stability for the site. They are now working on the actual slab for the building and coaster footings.

None of this dictates the sequencing of the coaster versus the walls.

 

[lazyboy97o]

It's like they might have needed more time in the courtyard all along.

Nope. But feel free to to have another hissy fit.

 

[mattpeto]

Nope. But feel free to to have another hissy fit.

Haha you're the sore one. Just take the "L" on this one.

They moved on the area once Muppets closed. Knocking down a building and ripping up the courtyard. There has been movement nearly every day in this space.

Your plea is they could have kept Muppets opener longer to save operating expenses might have worked if they were willing to build a PeopleMover straight to the entrance and back from the exit, becasue the area was never safe.

 

[Movielover]

“Facade modification” is essentially a new coat of paint. People keep pretending this is something it isn’t. I mean, being more excited for this then for Villains because Villains isn’t going to be a “horror” land strikes me as mind-bendingly strange.

1. This is clearly more than "a new coat of paint". Whole sections of facade are being ripped out. This will look completely different from the Grand Ave. facade refresh which was just a new coat of paint.

2. I have never said I was more excited for this than Villains so I don't know where you are getting that from. I'm excited for all the different projects happening across WDW, but Villains is definitely at the top because I want to know how it looks and how it will feel.

 

[James Alucobond]

Haha you're the sore one. Just take the "L" on this one.

They moved on the area once Muppets closed. Knocking down a building and ripping up the courtyard. There has been movement nearly every day in this space.

Your plea is they could have kept Muppets opener longer to save operating expenses might have worked if they were willing to build a PeopleMover straight to the entrance and back from the exit, becasue the area was never safe.

That work is paced and staffed appropriately for the time allotted does not mean that things couldn’t be different on a different schedule. Look at it a different way—assuming no phased re-opening, what about the work in the courtyard should take longer than the work in the front of Dinoland, which closed half a year later and is likely to re-open sooner?

 

[mattpeto]

That work is paced and staffed appropriately for the time allotted does not mean that things couldn’t be different on a different schedule. Look at it a different way—assuming no phased re-opening, what about the work in the courtyard should take longer than the work in the front of Dinoland, which closed half a year later and is likely to re-open sooner?

Or maybe they just closed when they had to because of a million reasons.

Not to just save from operating expenses from Muppets.

 

[eddie104]

Not to just save from operating expenses from Muppets.

It’s always Disney is trying to save money on these boards.

Even though they done things to the contrary in the past.

 

[lazyboy97o]

It’s always Disney is trying to save money on these boards.

Even though they done things to the contrary in the past.

This is literally in response to me saying they’re spending more money than claimed.

 

[James Alucobond]

Or maybe they just closed when they had to because of a million reasons.

Not to just save from operating expenses from Muppets.

I guess I'm unclear on why, if you accept that many reasons may have contributed to the decision, you're so adamant saving on operating expenses isn't among them.

 

[mattpeto]

I guess I'm unclear on why, if you accept that many reasons may have contributed to the decision, you're so adamant saving on operating expenses isn't among them.

Among them? Sure.

But it wasn't the primary reason was my stance.

Not running anything in Grand Avenue will reduce DHS operating expenses, no question about it. But cutting expenses for the sake of it - I still don't believe that's why they closed MV3D.

 

[LSLS]

Haha you're the sore one. Just take the "L" on this one.

They moved on the area once Muppets closed. Knocking down a building and ripping up the courtyard. There has been movement nearly every day in this space.

Your plea is they could have kept Muppets opener longer to save operating expenses might have worked if they were willing to build a PeopleMover straight to the entrance and back from the exit, becasue the area was never safe.

That's not really an "L". The "L" would be if they are still working on this in 3 years as they come down the stretch to opening the land, or if they open this earlier than the rest of the land. Neither one of you have been proven wrong yet.

 

[mattpeto]

That's not really an "L". The "L" would be if they are still working on this in 3 years as they come down the stretch to opening the land, or if they open this earlier than the rest of the land. Neither one of you have been proven wrong yet.

That's quite fair and balanced.

And they could still mothball the theater (or land) for a million reasons (marketing, finance) which I admit could put a hole into my argument.

From an optics perspective, they moved quickly from closing MV3D to doing very visible work in the space.

 

[lazyboy97o]

That's not really an "L". The "L" would be if they are still working on this in 3 years as they come down the stretch to opening the land, or if they open this earlier than the rest of the land. Neither one of you have been proven wrong yet.

The time allotted to a scope of work is not a constant therefore when the work is completed is not proof of any underlying reasoning.

 

[mattpeto]

The time allotted to a scope of work is not a constant therefore when the work is completely is not proof of any underlying reasoning.

Will you be moving those goalposts further if the theater show opens before the doorcoaster?

 

[J4546]

can we make a construction thread for this project so we dont have to sift through all the "adults" arguing for construction updates?

 

[BrianLo]

It's like they might have needed more time in the courtyard all along.

~20 months seems to be a reasonable timeline for Disney to significantly reface a land and gut and redo an attraction. There's really only one rationale explanation that requires it to have closed when it did and not be operational cost savings and that would be the timelines between the two components are phased.

That happening would not in fact support many of your other extraneous hypothesis, as I've said all along. Though I also don't know why everyone has dug in to the impossibility of it being phased, which it now seems to be.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Though I also don't know why everyone has dug in to the impossibility of it being phased, which it now seems to be.

Mostly cause it seems like such a terrible idea based on past phased openings.

That doesn’t mean Disney won’t do it though.

 

[lazyboy97o]

That happening would not in fact support many of your other extraneous hypothesis, as I've said all along. Though I also don't know why everyone has dug in to the impossibility of it being phased, which it now seems to be.

Who is claiming the land couldn’t open in phases?