Disney Irish
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I don't think size will be an issue. As we measured it out at one point and it was on-par with the Mexico Pavilion, which I think its ~75k sqft.
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News Coco Boat Ride Coming to Disney California Adventure
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75k square feet as in bigger than the POTC show building at Disneyland? Was 70k the total sq footage estimate the likely amount of usable space for the attraction or the total for all the area including backstage space? Not understanding how space is an issue at these numbers.
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Disney Irish
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Total usable area without the Parade Building and including part of the current service road (which we now assume they will use) was ~170k sqft. The assumption was about ~70k would be attraction building while the rest would be mini-land and service road for things like the Parade Building.
If we assume the Parade Building is going too, then that is ~200k sqft of usable area, and we could be looking at over 100k sqft for the attraction building.
Basically still a lot of unknowns, but I don't think footprint is anything we have to worry about. Its just scope of the attraction that will determine what will be used.
TP2000
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I trimmed out the River and the second E Ticket, because the River work didn't touch anything close to the actual ride show building for Millennium Falcon: Target Run.
Here's Star Wars construction as it looked in April, 2016. They had begun to tear down the old berm and river route, and clear the land that would become the Millenium Falcon show building to the northeast.
The work to clear that land where the marketplace and Falcon's show building actually began in January, 2016. Here's how it looked in February, 2016 when some progress could actually be seen.
It took 3 years and 4 months from the start of land clearing to the time the retail/dining and the Millenium Falcon ride opened.
Based on those above photos pre-Falcon, a reminder that we are currently at this stage of the process in March, 2026. We're still a month or so away from where they were on Falcon in February, 2016. Just tree removal so far, no pavement even ripped out yet, let alone demolition on existing structures.
Land clearing has not yet begun, but could be underway by April. Then the buildings in the backstage area behind the Coaster need to be demolished and further land clearing and site prep, before foundations could be laid by this fall.
I would expect to see the first few pieces of steel vertical construction for Coco heading upward by this December, at the earliest. Maybe not until after Christmas and the calendar flips to 2027. Here's the first pieces of vertical steel going up on the Millennium Falcon ride in February, 2017, approximately 2 years and 3 months before opening in May, 2019.
Then after two full years of construction and a few months of final testing/land prep, the new Coco water ride located where DCA's backstage infrastructure now is and its associated food/retail development to replace the two existing large restaurants would open sometime between Summer (best case scenario) or Fall (safer bet, and check with Marketing) of 2029.
In my humble opinion, of course. But c'mon.... this is Disney! They don't do anything fast.
TheDisneyParksfanC8
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Does anyone remember when Avengers started to go vertical last year? Because this is why I still believe a 2028 opening is still plausible. I don't think the backstage buildings will take forever to demo once stuff is cleared out, and when they are demoed, they can hit the ground running.
Movielover
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Mr. Sullivan
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I really cannot see any reality in which these three projects make the worst Disney park in the US somehow worse. It really can only make it better.
PiratesMansion
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Can we at least wait until they're open before we determine they suck and did nothing to help DCA?
Seems like a bare minimum ask.
I imagine that even if they're not to people's taste they will at least offer more things to do and shorten lines throughout the park a bit. Maybe even take some pressure off of RSR for awhile.
Distorian
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DCA exists to celebrate the history and mythos of California. These additions do not help achieve those ends, and in some cases move the park further from that end. Therefore, these additions do not improve the park.
britain
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Would putting back the Maliboomer improve the park?
Distorian
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I’d prefer that to Avatar and Avengers Campus. Coco is fine but not ideal for its location. Ideally, Coco should be part of Pacific Wharf as it’s the land closest to celebrating Mexican culture. Its placement in Paradise Pier is hamfisted.
How in the world is it the worst Disney park in the US? DHS exists. DCA is miles better then that half finished park that contains only E-tickets and shows, most of which are well over 20 years old. Just no.
I would even go as far as to say that DCA is better than AK, especially right now. Pandora and Africa are amazing but do not make a full park. Outside of that you have a far inferior raft ride (compared to GRR,) a 3-D movie, a bird show, and a roller coaster who’s main draw has been broken for over 20 years. DCA is clearly better then that as well.
NobodyElse
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With its California-centric history and mythos? You have to ask?
While our California history classes didn't specifically cover launch/drop rides, there were several chapters on "Test Your Strength" games. /s
DLR92
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Coco is probably the best announcement out of any project coming to DCA.
The pier is missing out on a boat ride. That area is actually where Disney can bend its IP cartoons in the Pier area. I said it before, the Pier should be akin to Disneyland Fantasyland. A place where there’s a collection of dark rides and boat ride containing Disney IP of animated cartoons.
The pier is missing out on a boat ride. That area is actually where Disney can bend its IP cartoons in the Pier area. I said it before, the Pier should be akin to Disneyland Fantasyland. A place where there’s a collection of dark rides and boat ride containing Disney IP of animated cartoons.
DCA exists to increase shareholder value. Don’t get it twisted, that has always been, and will always be its primary purpose.
How well the park meets the creative aims expressed in the dedication speech isn’t a metric for improvement that’s relevant to anyone outside folks like us on the boards, as much as I’d like it to be.
For me, DCA has never truly succeeded in delivering worthwhile themed experiences in pursuit of those aims, despite some revisionists who seem to lionize DCA 1.0 which was aligned on the CA theme but failed miserably to deliver the worthwhile experiences.
Understanding DCA’s primary purpose, and the IP-mandate era we live in, I’ll accept the addition of worthwhile themed experiences at the expense of 100% alignment to the CA theme. There was some hope during DCA 2.0 that Disney was attempting to make good on both goals, but unfortunately it seems that is no longer the thinking
Distorian
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Theme parks are art and should be viewed as such. The less guests view theme parks as art, the more shareholders can get away with tarnishing them for profit.
Movielover
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PiratesMansion
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I agree that themed entertainment is an art form, and there are cases to be made that some themed attractions (most here can probably name at least five, and I imagine there'd be considerable overlap over what those five were) have reached the recognition as art in some form.
However, I guarantee you that over 90% of the public does not view theme parks as anything more than a mechanism through which they can have fun on a ride and/or maybe eat some deliciously fattening foods and/or have a fun day out.
For most guests, if they want art, they're more likely to go to an art museum than a theme park. For most people, the notion that a theme park could be art is laughable.