DHS Disney Confirms Muppets Take Over Rock 'n' Roller Coaster at Hollywood Studios

[Chester&Hester Enthusiast]

I'm not aware of any "increased" visual "intrusion" as you call it. The car is in the same spot. Nothing has moved forward. And "emotional impact"? What? I'm at a theme park, wanting to go on rides. I'm not being introspective about my emotions. Besides, you're worried about the color scheme of an upside limousine? What the heck?

I like when people here dismiss literally everything that set Disney's theme parks apart from their competition. Disney goes to great lengths to avoid visual contradictions and even greater lengths to evoke emotional responses from their customers through meticulous design.

You've never felt anything emotional at a Disney Park? Why do you go?

Like, I genuinely cannot wrap my head around this attitude that some seem to have that Disney Parks are just theme parks and that attention to detail and everything else that made them successful doesn't matter.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I like when people here dismiss literally everything that set Disney's theme parks apart from their competition. Disney goes to great lengths to avoid visual contradictions and even greater lengths to evoke emotional responses from their customers through meticulous design.

You've never felt anything emotional at a Disney Park? Why do you go?

Like, I genuinely cannot wrap my head around this attitude that some seem to have that Disney Parks are just theme parks and that attention to detail and everything else that made them successful doesn't matter.

There’s nuance in everything, and everyone has their particular line.

In this specific case, where nothing is changing except the paint job, I find no thematic issue.

If someone felt it was out of place the entire time, then sure, fair enough.

For me it’s becoming much ado about nothing, in this particular case.

 

[Jambo Dad]

There will never be anything to replace Aerosmith Rockin Roller Coaster. It was one of a kind and will remain one of a kind and cant' be duplicated or replaced. Sad day when it closed. We were there the week before it closed and made trip from Pa to Fla just to ride it close to the end. 5 times in two days... So sad.....so sad

Not that sad. They had a good run. The lead singer was a predator. Let’s move on.

 

[Marc Davis Fan]

In this specific case, where nothing is changing except the paint job, I find no thematic issue.

I think it’s an empirical question (at least the way I originally asked it): Will the change from a muted color scheme to a bright one draw guests' attention in a way that reduces the impact of the Tower of Terror’s approach experience? Maybe, maybe not. That’s why, in my original post about this, I was asking for the opinions of people who’ve seen how it looks in person. (And again, I'm cautiously optimistic that it won't have a significant impact, since only the front of the car is seen from the relevant vantage point, and it's set back, and the archway's design will likely remain largely the same.)

 

[Chester&Hester Enthusiast]

There’s nuance in everything, and everyone has their particular line.

In this specific case, where nothing is changing except the paint job, I find no thematic issue.

If someone felt it was out of place the entire time, then sure, fair enough.

For me it’s becoming much ado about nothing, in this particular case.

Ah, now we've moved on to pretending that color selection and pattern design doesn't matter and has no visual impact on an area. I'm out.

 

[TanagraTheater]

We lost nineteen animatronics in favor of three, and given Disney's recent blunders, they'll probably be broken. This isn't the win that everyone's making it out to be.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Ah, now we've moved on to pretending that color selection and pattern design doesn't matter and has no visual impact on an area. I'm out.

I don’t see that being said - I’m not sure I understand the issue here. The limo has never been part of the lead up to the tower - and I don’t see how it would be a big change now that the car is a different color.

The car changing colors to match the new ride makes sense from a theming perspective.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Ah, now we've moved on to pretending that color selection and pattern design doesn't matter and has no visual impact on an area. I'm out.

I’m not pretending colour doesn’t matter — I’m saying in this specific instance, this specific change doesn’t rise to a level of concern for me. I am not dismissing design principles, it’s just my read on this particular case. You’re welcome to disagree, but characterizing it as “pretending design doesn’t matter” is a bit of a leap from what is being said.

As someone who has spent hours in DisneySea amazed at the immense layered detail, I am not indifferent to theming, I just don’t see this specific change as a violation, especially when the car never bothered me (most people?) before, and it all ties into the new theme for the coaster.

 

[Movielover]

Will the change from a muted color scheme

Ah yes... "muted"

"muted"

I really think you are blowing this whole thing way out of proportion. I understand what you are saying about thematic consistency but you can't see the car from Sunset until you reach the T junction and by then you have always been able to see the bright red guitar behind the car from the roadway, so any additional color on the bright blue car is changing nothing in terms of how this area has been for the past several decades.

And on top of that, just take a stroll in any city and you'll see businesses with bright colors next to scary abandoned buildings all over the place, especially in LA. So its very fitting place-wise to see it here.

 

[Tom Morrow]

I'm not concerned with how it "clashes" with Tower of Terror because RnRc always has done that a little bit, but I do think that the arch, car, guitar, and overall plaza looked very "classic Hollywood" in a way that fit the park. I think the Muppet aesthetic changes to the exterior should be understated. If it just means new colors on the guitar and car, then it isn't a big deal I guess.

 

[Marc Davis Fan]

Ah yes... "muted"

That is muted. The car and guitar's bridge are dark tones that do not draw your attention from a distance. The archway is an art deco inspired shape and color scheme that fits the surrounding aesthetics. Most importantly, the red guitar body in the photos you selected is - deliberately - not visible from the approach to Tower of Terror, but rather only when you get up to the archway.

just take a stroll in any city and you'll see businesses with bright colors next to scary abandoned buildings all over the place, especially in LA. So its very fitting place-wise to see it here.

My concern isn't accuracy but visual cohesion. That's a major part of what distinguishes Disney from real world cities and why people find Disney so comparatively pleasant.

That said, again, I don't have an opinion about whether the color change will have a significant negative impact on the Tower of Terror's approach experience, only that it might. As I said, I am cautiously optimistic that the small visual field taken up by the car from that area - and the design of the arch, and the fact that it's set back from the boulevard - will prevent the new color scheme from being a significant visual contradiction... but I don't know yet. That is why I am interested in hearing about the perceptions/experiences/opinions of people who've seen how it looks in person so far.

I'm not concerned with how it "clashes" with Tower of Terror because RnRc always has done that a little bit, but I do think that the arch, car, guitar, and overall plaza looked very "classic Hollywood" in a way that fit the park. I think the Muppet aesthetic changes to the exterior should be understated. If it just means new colors on the guitar and car, then it isn't a big deal I guess.

This is basically my (optimistic) assessment, as I described in earlier posts. I certainly hope this is right.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Sad, not that anyone was expecting a Tiana's level retheme, but the fact that they're likely not going to really muppetize the space is sad. So many opportunities for fun Muppet gags, like how 3D was.

The rumor is that a lot of MV3D props from the queue will be reused in this rides queue. I really hope the actual ride itself is changed instead of using the same flats, but the rumor is also that the ride itself is nearly identical to the original…

 

[Movielover]

I think the Muppet aesthetic changes to the exterior should be understated.

Yeah I get your point, it's not like any real film or music studios would be colorful or have outlandish props or features...

... oh wait.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Any idea when the setlist might be dropping? And if it will be on streaming as well?

Ideally, the recording would coincide with a full season of the Muppet Show, so they can use some cross-promotion synergy. Songs in the show could be used as the track list, and as more songs get created the attraction can get more and more options for re-rides.

If it’s anything like the CBMJ, there will be an album but it won’t be the same recordings that are in the attraction itself for whatever reason.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Y’all really hate that other site that much? Lol

You can’t type out their name without getting your post deleted, so it’s less “we all hate them” and moreso “we are complying with forum rules as to not get our posts deleted”

I work for them, I definitely don’t hate them, but I still have to refer to them by “the site that shall not be named” or whatever to be able to post here lol

 

[Movielover]

That is muted. The car and guitar's bridge are dark tones that do not draw your attention from a distance. The archway is an art deco inspired shape and color scheme that fits the surrounding aesthetics. Most importantly, the red guitar body in the photos you selected is - deliberately - not visible from the approach to Tower of Terror, but rather only when you get up to the archway.



My concern isn't accuracy but visual cohesion. That's a major part of what distinguishes Disney from real world cities and why people find Disney so comparatively pleasant.

That said, again, I don't have an opinion about whether the color change will have a significant negative impact on the Tower of Terror's approach experience, only that it might. As I said, I am cautiously optimistic that the small visual field taken up by the car from that area - and the design of the arch, and the fact that it's set back from the boulevard - will prevent the new color scheme from being a significant visual contradiction... but I don't know yet. That is why I am interested in hearing about the perceptions/experiences/opinions of people who've seen how it looks in person so far.



This is basically my (optimistic) assessment, as I described in earlier posts. I certainly hope this is right.

I'm sorry, this is a major "mountains out of mole hills" situation, but hey if this is the hill you want to die on then go right ahead. If seeing THAT car painted THAT way as you pass it to ride Tower of Terror is such a affront to you than may I suggest purchasing a quality pair of these...

I myself look forward to our Muppet overlords and welcome their presence on Sunset Boulevard.

Good Day!

 

[HauntedPirate]

That is muted. The car and guitar's bridge are dark tones that do not draw your attention from a distance. The archway is an art deco inspired shape and color scheme that fits the surrounding aesthetics. Most importantly, the red guitar body in the photos you selected is - deliberately - not visible from the approach to Tower of Terror, but rather only when you get up to the archway.



My concern isn't accuracy but visual cohesion. That's a major part of what distinguishes Disney from real world cities and why people find Disney so comparatively pleasant.

That said, again, I don't have an opinion about whether the color change will have a significant negative impact on the Tower of Terror's approach experience, only that it might. As I said, I am cautiously optimistic that the small visual field taken up by the car from that area - and the design of the arch, and the fact that it's set back from the boulevard - will prevent the new color scheme from being a significant visual contradiction... but I don't know yet. That is why I am interested in hearing about the perceptions/experiences/opinions of people who've seen how it looks in person so far.



This is basically my (optimistic) assessment, as I described in earlier posts. I certainly hope this is right.

Be quiet, money-dispensing meat sack, and buy your LLPP, AH tickets, pay rack rate for a hotel room to get “free QS dining”, and make sure you attend the Halloween party three times and both Christmas parties twice as penance for your sins.

 

[EagleScout610]

The rumor is that a lot of MV3D props from the queue will be reused in this rides queue. I really hope the actual ride itself is changed instead of using the same flats, but the rumor is also that the ride itself is nearly identical to the original…

To be fair, I don't think anyone was really expecting a full gut/rebuild around the coaster once they announced this would be such a fast turn around. Hoping for the MV3D props returning in the queue. Maybe the Statler and Waldorf standee can say "I hear Rock N Rollercoaster is more fun that getting hit on the head by a 2x4!"

 

[mattpeto]

We lost nineteen animatronics in favor of three, and given Disney's recent blunders, they'll probably be broken. This isn't the win that everyone's making it out to be.

I think you should wait till the Monsters theater show to compare apples to apples.

RnR Aerosmith had 0. This redo will have at least 3.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The website name and address are blocked here. People still take and repost their content though.

Technically, they're not supposed to. But considering That Other Site's rampant use of other people's content without permission or attribution... <shrug>

If there's info from a banned site, I usual find a different source saying the same thing and post that here.