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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Tony the Tigger

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This is red hair.

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Tony the Tigger

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The things that pop up in a day.

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Quantum Leap is still one of my all-time favorite shows. I’ve had a bit of a crush on Scott Bakula for many years.

It’s being run on a channel called GET. Great entertainment television. In the credits for today’s episode, I noticed the name Guy Stockwell. Assuming he must be related to Dean Stockwell, who plays Scott’s right hand man, I did some searching to confirm.

Not only is Guy Dean‘s brother, but their father - Harry, a Broadway actor - was the singing voice of Prince Charming in Walt Disney’s animated Snow White movie.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
The things that pop up in a day.

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Quantum Leap is still one of my all-time favorite shows. I’ve had a bit of a crush on Scott Bakula for many years.

It’s being run on a channel called GET. Great entertainment television. In the credits for today’s episode, I noticed the name Guy Stockwell. Assuming he must be related to Dean Stockwell, who plays Scott’s right hand man, I did some searching to confirm.

Not only is Guy Dean‘s brother, but their father - Harry, a Broadway actor - was the singing voice of Prince Charming in Walt Disney’s animated Snow White movie.
I wanted to be Sam in the early 90s.

He's not my cup of tea, but he is still good looking at 71 -


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Tony the Tigger

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This is what good casting looks like.

Stop being disingenuous.

Don’t call me disingenuous. That was red hair.

And no, casting does not, nor has it ever, had to be identical to a previous version of a film, to a book description, or to anything else. Directors and actors take liberties and creative license with everything from soup to nuts.

Disney did that when he adapted from the original source material. So did the Disney company after he passed. Everybody knows that.

Sorry if you don’t have the imagination to go along for the ride.
 

Pizza Moon

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Don’t call me disingenuous. That was red hair.

And no, casting does not, nor has it ever, had to be identical to a previous version of a film, to a book description, or to anything else. Directors and actors take liberties and creative license with everything from soup to nuts.

Disney did that when he adapted from the original source material. So did the Disney company after he passed. Everybody knows that.

Sorry if you don’t have the imagination to go along for the ride.
It is not a bright redhead. It doesn’t look like Ariel at all.

Maleficent (2014) was a departure from the original, less of a remake, and I wasn’t even a fan of it, but despite the lack of green color skin the look of Maleficent was there, the cheekbone prosthetics, etc., yet again wasn’t a fan of it and it wasn’t a remake in the traditional sense, but Little Mermaid, Peter Pan and Wendy, Pinocchio, Snow White, they’re all trying to force arbitrary quotas and are actual full blown remakes instead of just making new, diverse content. Tho I guess Snow White was mocking the original actively, that might be unique for any Disney remake honestly I don’t remember any of the others having this weird disdain for the audience.

If you saw Guillermo Del Toro’s Pinocchio it’s like, there’s no way you can’t tell me a remake that is playing it safe shouldn’t feel like its original characters. Would be totally different if it’s a new story doing its own thing, but Disney is using their own IP. There’s a reason why you don’t hear loud voices against Hamilton because it’s trying to be its own thing, reflective of the present to interpret the past.

It’s not even about ethnicity necessarily as I’ve said, you could have gotten Selena Gomez to play a pretty convincing live action Ariel.

Tangled is proof that era is over. Audiences rejected it and Disney has a fiduciary duty to stop.
 
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Pizza Moon

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Actually its not proof of anything. As we haven't seen the whole cast list, only the 3 main characters.

I think its best to move on from this topic, so many posts have been removed regarding this by the MODs, no more are needed as its not productive.
You keep trying to have the last word, and it’s not going to change the reality that European fairytales should generally have native Europeans on the same levels that a native Chinese folklore or Middle Eastern, should feature characters that look the part.

If you made Snow White set in Germany today I’d totally agree, but it’s set in a town literally hundreds of years ago, it makes as much sense as if the Mulan remake wasn’t casting characters that look the part of that era.

I think some of these movies have a strange tendency to, you know, also not hire beautiful people throughout the entire cast. Which I don’t know about you, but, Game of Thrones, Dune: Part 2, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, you gotta have good looking leads and side characters.

Unless you’re doing something totally different and then it actually has to be good not cringe like Snow White. Maleficent I do think succeeded better (at least the cinematographer was elite) because it wasn’t an exact mirror so it could depart, but she still should’ve been evil, it was sort of a weird lazy writing move to have her be good IMO. Kinda like the rat saving all of the universe from Thanos, just a silly decision.

And tbh I actually enjoyed Little Mermaid’s remake (shocker), even with its issues. It’s just hard not to wish it was better, same with Aladdin, B&TB, and the others.
 

Disney Irish

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You keep trying to have the last word, and it’s not going to change the reality that European fairytales should generally have native Europeans on the same levels that a native Chinese folklore or Middle Eastern, should feature characters that look the part.

If you made Snow White set in Germany today I’d totally agree, but it’s set in a town literally hundreds of years ago, it makes as much sense as if the Mulan remake wasn’t casting characters that look the part of that era.

Unless you’re doing something totally different and then it actually has to be good not cringe like Snow White. Maleficent I do think succeeded better (at least the cinematographer was elite) because it wasn’t an exact mirror so it could depart, but she still should’ve been evil, it was sort of a weird lazy writing move to have her be good IMO. Kinda like the rat saving all of the universe from Thanos, just a silly decision.

And tbh I actually enjoyed Little Mermaid’s remake (shocker), even with its issues. It’s just hard not to wish it was better, same with Aladdin, B&TB, and the others.

Again I think its best to move on from this topic, so many posts have been removed regarding this by the MODs, no more are needed as its not productive, you're not going to change people's opinions on this.
 

Pizza Moon

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Again I think its best to move on from this topic, so many posts have been removed regarding this by the MODs, no more are needed as its not productive, you're not going to change people's opinions on this.
I agree—hopefully this time it won’t be deleted and we just move on now that it’s been debated into oblivion.

Do you think Disney will be able to replicate 2025 BO wise?

I think they have a problem with Mando just like Solo. Avengers probably makes $2B if it’s really good, inflation has really made it not an absurd number particularly since No Way Home made about that without China.

If they get the hype right and it ends up being as good as Infinity War, which they could pull off.

Though it’ll bleed into 2027’s BO I guess.

I think what anoticeable at least for me is I plan to see Avengers but not Mando, even though I’m a much bigger Star Wars fan. I usually have a good gut feeling when it comes to BO.

But we just don’t know if it’s slop like season 3 or if it’s a guns a blazing solo adventure like season 1.

All I know is the marketing has been awful.

Toy Story 5 I think is actually going to be a masterpiece.

It’s Andrew STANTON.

He did Finding Dory as an apology for John Carter flopping, same with Brad Bird and Incredibles 2.

I think Stanton’s heart is in this one though. Not having like a ton of rewrites and 12 writers instantly helps.
 

TP2000

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What’s its deal anyway?

I don't know, but it's difficult to update the data for this thread without The Numbers.

I can't find another box office tracker that displayed content so nicely, and offered such clear ways to track historical box office adjusted for inflation, domestic vs. overseas, etc.

I hope it will be back online soon, because tracking Hoppers without it is hard.
 

TP2000

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In lieu of box office news, here's some other news regarding Hoppers.

Disneyland gave the Challenge Trail attraction a Hoppers overlay, added Hoppers characters to the Animation Academy roster of drawing sessions, and added Hoppers artwork to the Pixar Place Hotel's lobby displays.

WDW would have done something for Hoppers, but they just don't have enough space in their parks out there for anything new.


 
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Pizza Moon

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In lieu of box office news, here's some other news regarding Hoppers.

Disneyland gave the Challenge Trail attraction a Hoppers overlay, added Hoppers characters to the Animation Academy roster of drawing sessions, and added Hoppers artwork to the Pixar Place Hotel's lobby displays.

WDW would have done something for Hoppers, but they just don't have enough space in their parks out there for anything new.



WDW just totally drops the ball on movie tie-ins. Make it make sense, they love IP.
 
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Tony the Tigger

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It is not a bright redhead. It doesn’t look like Ariel at all.

Ariel looks like whatever they decide to make Ariel look like.

It was live action vs. animated. They went for a more realistic tone for the hair. I’m sure they matched it to the color palette of the film.

Sorry that throws you so much.

If they made a blonde Superman, it wouldn’t wreck me.

Having a preference may be normal. Lashing out as if offended by creative choices is revealing. Skin tone is of no consequence to the story so…
 

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