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Noticing the parks are better upkept

Chi84

Premium Member
I literally can't eat it - so it's an allergy to garbage.

Honestly, what is the downside to saying it's an allergy?

1) It's an allergy, I get an alternative.

2) It's not really an allergy, I get the alternative.
People with real allergies have a hard enough time being taken seriously without others trivializing them by lying.

But yes, it did work for you by getting you what you wanted. From your perspective, no downside.
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
People with real allergies have a hard enough time being taken seriously without others trivializing them by lying.

But yes, it did work for you by getting you what you wanted. From your perspective, no downside.
So you're just riffing.

Where is your data to back up that people with allergies have a hard time being taken seriously at Disney in particular? Disney is horrible at many things, but they actually take allergies in every single case I've seen, very seriously.

I have family and friends with real allergies too and it's always taken seriously.

I'm allergic enough where I can't enjoy my food with chemicals on it, so I'll continue my strategy.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
So you're just riffing.

Where is your data to back up that people with allergies have a hard time being taken seriously at Disney in particular? Disney is horrible at many things, but they actually take allergies in every single case I've seen, very seriously.

I have family and friends with real allergies too and it's always taken seriously.

I'm allergic enough where I can't enjoy my food with chemicals on it, so I'll continue my strategy.
I never expected otherwise.
 

Touchdown

Well-Known Member
Getting real maple syrup in this country at a restaurant is near impossible these days. Unless it’s specifically available as an up charge I just don’t expect it and plan accordingly. Not sure why getting butter was an issue though. Butter is usually as expensive as margarine.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
There is no reason that DLP food shouldn’t be the best food in the world, it’s in France and right next to Paris. It’s definitely not that, Remys was good not great, the Mickey pizza in fantasyland everyone raved about online was barely acceptable, and the steak place I went to in Downtown Disney was again good not great. The only thing that was amazing was the breakfast in the club lounge at DL Hotel.

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It’s still Aramark 😎
They don’t even have that as an option. WDW has a Michelin Star restaurant, once Napa Rose fully reopens and can get reviewed I bet DL is going to have one too. Again, zero reason things at DLP shouldn’t be leagues better.
See above. 😎
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
Getting real maple syrup in this country at a restaurant is near impossible these days. Unless it’s specifically available as an up charge I just don’t expect it and plan accordingly. Not sure why getting butter was an issue though. Butter is usually as expensive as margarine.
They definitely have it, just don’t allow you to savor the goodness without special request.

And margarine is definitely cheaper than butter.
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
So… your profile says you are 27. You have the mindset and temperament of an arrogant 20-something. But yet, you know what food at Universal was in 2010, when you were age 11, traveled to Tokyo at least twice, including at age 19, have been to all the Disney parks, plus 5 trips to DLP, and have been to WDW enough to know what most restaurants are like, were like, etc. You’ve done more world traveling than 99% of people around here, many of whom are far older.

At the age of 27.

That math ain’t mathin’.

Not to mention, you have admitted to using Grammarly to check coursework and know how to change AI-generated content to get past it. And get very defensive about AI usage when you. Bring. It. Up. Constantly. You’ve been around these forums for a hot minute but act like someone who has been around for 10+ years and has earned a lot of respect. Yet you wonder why people doubt you. 🧐 🤔
All I know is my freshman English teacher, Miss Zety in Maplewood Jr.HS in 1980 is spinning in her grave right now…lol
 

MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
It’s bad.

It’s just bad.

I genuinely don’t comprehend how someone could eat there when Columbia Harbour House exists.

I mean even Casey’s Corner it’s hard to screw up corn dogs.
easy.
the overwhelming odor of fried seafood
the appeal of corndogs eludes me
Casey's isn't Casey's without sauerkraut.
 

MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
I'm allergic enough where I can't enjoy my food with chemicals on it, so I'll continue my strategy.
I somewhat agree.
I've been to WDW many times over with people who have food allergies, and people who have medical food intolerances. By food intolerance, I mean a medically observed reaction, just not a true allergy. Exposure = inflammation that is similar to an allergic reaction, stomach pain, and random body aches.

But, there is no place to explain all that to a CM. It is TMI.

Even when said person says it is a food intolerance, WDW reports it as an allergy, because that is the policy. Said person is able to tolerate situations where there is a risk of cross-exposure.

Even with true food allergies, there is a common misunderstanding that many people have about food allergies. With true food allergies, there are 2 parts to consider: the level of reaction, and the quantity of the allergen. The quantity is called the threshold amount. Some people react to even the teeniest exposure = low threshold. Most people with allergies have a variable reaction based on the quantity of exposure. Many people do not know about threshold.

A friend of mine: A tiny exposure= sick for about 8 hours, with digestive issues for about 24. A large exposure = she quickly vomits then mostly feels better in about 2 hours. The higher exposure is more dangerous, but the lower exposure is often less pleasant.

Some people with a high threshold can be VERY allergic, but have to eat a fair bit to get very sick. Think of people with seasonal allergies. Some people get sick at the slightest exposure to pollen. Others only react when pollen counts are high, but high pollen makes them very miserable.

A 3rd important thing everyone should know is that reactions can vary over time. Someone with a milder allergy can develop a severe allergy. Someone who has 2 mild allergies may have a stronger reaction if they are exposed to both allergens at same time.
 
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Pizza Moon

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Original Poster
So you're just riffing.

Where is your data to back up that people with allergies have a hard time being taken seriously at Disney in particular? Disney is horrible at many things, but they actually take allergies in every single case I've seen, very seriously.

I have family and friends with real allergies too and it's always taken seriously.

I'm allergic enough where I can't enjoy my food with chemicals on it, so I'll continue my strategy.
I hope the parks move away from processed crap. Society is shifting on this pretty fast.
 

MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
Where is your data to back up that people with allergies have a hard time being taken seriously at Disney in particular? Disney is horrible at many things, but they actually take allergies in every single case I've seen, very seriously.

I have family and friends with real allergies too and it's always taken seriously.
I've seen WDW staff bungle food allergies multiple times, including my most recent visit. I will share not to debate what happened, but to inform everyone that WDW is not perfect.

When we made ADR, we reported allergy. Person w allergy requested, and ordered off the allergen menu.

What I think happened is waitperson was new, they put in most of the food order, but forgot to add that person's order.

All the other food arrived, but was delivered by kitchen staff. They dropped off food and quickly left. They did not stop to ask if the food looked correct.

Finally, we get attention of our waitperson, to ask about missing food. They don't explain, but run away from table with a panicked expression saying they will, 'check.' The rest of the food is cold and congealing, so we start to eat. Good thing. We entirely finish food, and allergen food is still missing.

Finally, a plate of food is served to the person with the allergy, but it doesn't look like allergen-friendly food. Again, it is delivered by kitchen staff who drop off the plate and run away. No opportunity to ask anything. There is no allergen tag. LUCKILY the person with the food allergy didn't eat any of it!

Turns out, the waitperson totally messed up order. When asked, they act annoyed, and ask of person who has now been waiting over an hour for some food, "Do you STILL want your lunch?" And only a very cursory mumbled apology. THEIR mistake could have been FATAL!

So now we have been seated for a long time. We decide to ask if we can talk to a manager. Allergen food finally arrives just ahead of manager.

Mind, I'm normally tolerant of waitstaff, but the rest of our service was also horrible. All of our water/soft drinks are long gone/no refills, table is littered with appetizer plates that were not cleared, etc.

After that, waitperson suddenly becomes very apologetic.

Their mistake could have been fatal. Luckily, the manager appeared to take the situation seriously.

Sadly, this is not the first time WDW has bungled an allergen order in the past 2-3 years.
 

Pizza Moon

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I've seen WDW staff bungle food allergies multiple times, including my most recent visit. I will share not to debate what happened, but to inform everyone that WDW is not perfect.

When we made ADR, we reported allergy. Person w allergy requested, and ordered off the allergen menu.

What I think happened is waitperson was new, they put in most of the food order, but forgot to add that person's order.

All the other food arrived, but was delivered by kitchen staff. They dropped off food and quickly left. They did not stop to ask if the food looked correct.

Finally, we get attention of our waitperson, to ask about missing food. They don't explain, but run away from table with a panicked expression saying they will, 'check.' The rest of the food is cold and congealing, so we start to eat. Good thing. We entirely finish food, and allergen food is still missing.

Finally, a plate of food is served to the person with the allergy, but it doesn't look like allergen-friendly food. Again, it is delivered by kitchen staff who drop off the plate and run away. No opportunity to ask anything. There is no allergen tag. LUCKILY the person with the food allergy didn't eat any of it!

Turns out, the waitperson totally messed up order. When asked, they act annoyed, and ask of person who has now been waiting over an hour for some food, "Do you STILL want your lunch?" And only a very cursory mumbled apology. THEIR mistake could have been FATAL!

So now we have been seated for a long time. We decide to ask if we can talk to a manager. Allergen food finally arrives just ahead of manager.

Mind, I'm normally tolerant of waitstaff, but the rest of our service was also horrible. All of our water/soft drinks are long gone/no refills, table is littered with appetizer plates that were not cleared, etc.

After that, waitperson suddenly becomes very apologetic.

Their mistake could have been fatal. Luckily, the manager appeared to take the situation seriously.

Sadly, this is not the first time WDW has bungled an allergen order in the past 2-3 years.
Honestly, while I believe you and feel bad, this has never been my consistent experience. I find Disney to possibly be the most accommodating place you could possibly be for allergies, and they take cross-contamination so much more seriously than anywhere else I've seen. Third-party vendors at Disney like Landry's and Patina Group, in my experience, operate the same way.

Their parks do a good job, but their cruise ships do a spectacular job.
 

MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
Honestly, while I believe you and feel bad, this has never been my consistent experience. I find Disney to possibly be the most accommodating place you could possibly be for allergies, and they take cross-contamination so much more seriously than anywhere else I've seen. Third-party vendors at Disney like Landry's and Patina Group, in my experience, operate the same way.

Their parks do a good job, but their cruise ships do a spectacular job.
Universal usually does a great job!
 

JIMINYCR

Well-Known Member
Maybe the high prices are keeping the riff raft out how trash up the parks
Oh ohhhh... Better rethink your post. Are you insinuating that people under a certain pay grade don't know how to use trash cans? :p:p:p Sounds like someone's got preconceived notions about the lower class of Disney guests. 😜😜😜
Maybe Josh's first order of business should be to post signage with directions on how guest should dispose of trash when they are visiting the parks.
 

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
The other “get off my lawn” statement I’ll make - cutting under ropes.

If I cut under a rope a cm will surely see me and reprimand me.

If I walk the long way and go through the maze - others will surely cut under the rope and end up in front of me and will not get seen by a cm.

Lose lose! Haha
 

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