MK Piston Peak and Villains Land Construction Thread

[EricsBiscuit]

This was unexpected to me. How does mk's version tell the story better? It's not really a challenge, though certainly it's not my opinion, I am very curious as to why it's yours and apparently some others as well.

It has been a bit muddled since 2006’s addition of Jack Sparrow, but MK’s facade and queue line make the story more complete. Not that DL’s version has no story, but it is a bit more well rounded out in Florida. Some others on the forum may be able to elaborate better than I can. Essentially, the first half of the DL version is borne of necessity. The going back in time justification is a bit forced. The MK version tells the story without what Marc Davis considered the filler at DL. First, the setting in Caribbean Plaza is more immersive. Second, you see the pirates out in the distance getting ready to attack. Third, you escape the fort in a boat, but land in the middle of a pitch battle. And eventually you escape. I highly recommend reading this old article from Passport 2 Dreams which explains better than I can:

The Case for the Florida Pirates

If you're looking for the ultimate journey through Pirates of the Caribbean - the history, the attractions, the films, all of it - check out...

passport2dreams.blogspot.com

 

[Disone]

It has been a bit muddled since 2006’s addition of Jack Sparrow, but MK’s facade and queue line make the story more complete. Not that DL’s version has no story, but it is a bit more well rounded out in Florida. Some others on the forum may be able to elaborate better than I can. Essentially, the first half of the DL version is borne of necessity. The going back in time justification is a bit forced. The MK version tells the story without what Marc Davis considered the filler at DL. First, the setting in Caribbean Plaza is more immersive. Second, you see the pirates out in the distance getting ready to attack. Third, you escape the fort in a boat, but land in the middle of a pitch battle. And eventually you escape. I highly recommend reading this old article from Passport 2 Dreams which explains better than I can:

The Case for the Florida Pirates

If you're looking for the ultimate journey through Pirates of the Caribbean - the history, the attractions, the films, all of it - check out...

passport2dreams.blogspot.com

Ok. Thank you

 

[SpectroMagician]

Remember in 2024 D'Amaro told us that the plans were done and shovels were already in the ground on all of this? 2 years later and all we have confirmed is Cars IP whizzing by the Haunted Mansion and removal of beautiful sight lines across water.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Remember in 2024 D'Amaro told us that the plans were done and shovels were already in the ground on all of this? 2 years later and all we have confirmed is Cars IP whizzing by the Haunted Mansion and removal of beautiful sight lines across water.

I mean shovels are in the ground and everything listed is happening so…

 

[gorillaball]

Remember in 2024 D'Amaro told us that the plans were done and shovels were already in the ground on all of this? 2 years later and all we have confirmed is Cars IP whizzing by the Haunted Mansion and removal of beautiful sight lines across water.

Rather than paraphrase, let’s use the actual quote and timeline (19 months ago):

“At Disney Experiences, Imagineers dream, create, design and build these stories into real places. And we have Imagineers in place right now all around the world because everything we’re going to share with you is in active development. Plans are drawn. Dirt is moving. I just want to be clear about this: We are doing everything you’re going to hear tonight.”

“Active development” - actual quote, and “plans were done” - your words, are quite different.

 

[Tha Realest]

It has been a bit muddled since 2006’s addition of Jack Sparrow, but MK’s facade and queue line make the story more complete. Not that DL’s version has no story, but it is a bit more well rounded out in Florida. Some others on the forum may be able to elaborate better than I can. Essentially, the first half of the DL version is borne of necessity. The going back in time justification is a bit forced. The MK version tells the story without what Marc Davis considered the filler at DL. First, the setting in Caribbean Plaza is more immersive. Second, you see the pirates out in the distance getting ready to attack. Third, you escape the fort in a boat, but land in the middle of a pitch battle. And eventually you escape. I highly recommend reading this old article from Passport 2 Dreams which explains better than I can:

The Case for the Florida Pirates

If you're looking for the ultimate journey through Pirates of the Caribbean - the history, the attractions, the films, all of it - check out...

passport2dreams.blogspot.com

I appreciate this perspective. I think they both tell their respective stories well. Yours is honestly one of the better defenses of the MK version I’ve read.

From my perspective, I equate it to the song American Woman. I appreciate very much the longer version you may hear late at night on FM stations or XM’s Classic Vinyl (5:07). Do I actively dislike the shortened radio edit (3:50)? No. But I very much prefer the slow burn intro for the original version.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

I also prefer the extended experience of the DL version, but I will concede that at least from anecdotal experiences with first time riders, the storyline is easier for them to follow in Florida and the confusion does lay in the opening of DL's version. I understand what's happening because I've researched it, but I could understand how someone going in totally blind maybe wouldn't understand why we're just floating so long before we see the battle happen. The time travel aspect isn't as clear if you're not looking for the indications of it.

 

[BlindChow]

Just a reminder this is not a Pirates of the Caribbean thread.

 

[Movielover]

Just a reminder this is not a Pirates of the Caribbean thread.

Not with that attitude it's not!

 

[owlsandcoffee]

Also (according to this video), Marc Davis may have wanted to cut some scenes so he could use similar ones on his Western River Expedition.

Which is what I was getting at to begin with! Now, with this all out of the way, I apologize for derailing the thread into Pirates. My comment will now return to the actual theme of the thread; please let's all the rest of us do so too-->

What exactly is going on right behind the Haunted Mansion queue? I'm kind of concerned that whatever they're building will impede on the vibe. (any more than Lightning McQueen already is.)

 

[JoeCamel]

Which is what I was getting at to begin with! Now, with this all out of the way, I apologize for derailing the thread into Pirates. My comment will now return to the actual theme of the thread; please let's all the rest of us do so too-->

What exactly is going on right behind the Haunted Mansion queue? I'm kind of concerned that whatever they're building will impede on the vibe. (any more than Lightning McQueen already is.)

Going to be a mass grave for all who ask "what's going on"......

 

[owlsandcoffee]

Going to be a mass grave for all who ask "what's going on"......

There's room for one more...

 

[Disone]

There's room for one more...

Any volunteers?

 

[eddie104]

Is this a construction thread or not ?

Otherwise I think it’s only fair the mods create a separate thread for discussion purposes only and leave this strictly for updates.

MK vs DL Pirates is not on topic at all.

 

[Rhinocerous]

Is this a construction thread or not ?

Otherwise I think it’s only fair the mods create a separate thread for discussion purposes only and leave this strictly for updates.

MK vs DL Pirates is not on topic at all.

Are you suggesting that discussing Pirates here is not constructive?

EDIT: We're building a rapport over a classic MK ride, which is the real WDW Magic.