MK Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

[DrStarlander]

Here's speculation on the possible layout of the land based on the info so far. The coaster shown is based on the theory it's an outdoor coaster inspired in scope by SDD, Hagrid's, Hiccup's Wing Gliders (so about 200-225k sq. ft.). It's shown here ducking under the walkway and appearing "underwater" as in the concept art, seen after passing through a keyhole-reveal tunnel into the land. Some guest-level berm/foliage/rockwork visual barriers are shown in brown lines, while rooftop backdrop mountains and the castle are shown in black. Walkways are in a scatter pattern.

 

[DisneyHead123]

Wonder if trying to keep Villains out of sight of small children could impact the railroad?

Also, if there are high hopes for Villains and possible future expansions, can see them not wanting to lock themselves in with a railroad perimeter.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Wonder if trying to keep Villains out of sight of small children could impact the railroad?

as opposed to pirates and literal ghosts?

 

[britain]

Operationally, another train station doesn’t quite make sense, but “stuff” that only the train guests get to see does.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Tossing this out there as a hypothetical what if.

There isn’t any operational problem with adding a Villians station - the biggest issue is staffing one more station and making the train more popular which means needing to run more trains and possibly longer hours.

It’s just $$$ but it’s Disney.

Leaving Frontierland station as a visual “set” but not using it operationally is certainly an option as well if they add Villians.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Operationally, another train station doesn’t quite make sense, but “stuff” that only the train guests get to see does.

How does it not make operational sense? It would allow another train to run, increasing capacity.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

There isn’t any operational problem with adding a Villians station - the biggest issue is staffing one more station and making the train more popular which means needing to run more trains and possibly longer hours.

It’s just $$$ but it’s Disney.

Leaving Frontierland station as a visual “set” but not using it operationally is certainly an option as well if they add Villians.

Using it as a set didn't even register. That's actually pretty ingenuous.

 

[Brer Oswald]

Using it as a set didn't even register. That's actually pretty ingenuous.

It’s possible, but logically makes less sense than making the building in villains as a set (which can be custom built).

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It’s possible, but logically makes less sense than making the building in villains as a set (which can be custom built).

Why is that?

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

It’s possible, but logically makes less sense than making the building in villains as a set (which can be custom built).

I don't know. Seems ideal to give Villains a dedicated station.

Out of curiously, Has anyone factored the train length from say, Main Street USA to Adventureland Treehouse? And would having the stop in Adventureland instead be more beneficial for crowd dispersal? A bit extreme but would it hypothetically space out the stops (Main Street USA, Adventureland, Villains, Storybook)

 

[Brer Oswald]

Why is that?

Because you have a station that is already built to function as a working train station. Turning it into a “set” is bound to leave multiple guest accessible areas blocked off and abandoned. That area really doesn’t need to be anymore lifeless and depressing than it already has become

 

[Touchdown]

Out of curiously, Has anyone factored the train length from say, Main Street USA to Adventureland Treehouse? And would having the stop in Adventureland instead be more beneficial for crowd dispersal? A bit extreme but would it hypothetically space out the stops (Main Street USA, Adventureland, Villians, Storybook)

We have no proof that Villains will have a path to BTMRR. If it doesn’t, that train ride is quite the shortcut.

 

[DisneyHead123]

as opposed to pirates and literal ghosts?

Neither of those have pirates / ghosts visible on the exterior.

 

[co10064]

I wonder if the building in red could be a maintenance/storage shed for the coaster trains.

 

[DrStarlander]

While I don't put absolute weight in the VL concept art, the speculative plan posted above matches the concept art identically. It's quite possible that the overall spatial/programatic layout of the land was established conceptually two years ago and while the theme of the coaster, dark ride, and the fixed-price dining is changing, the overall layout was figured out and is not subject to big changes.

 

[DrStarlander]

I wonder if the building in red could be a maintenance/storage shed for the coaster trains.

That's what I'm guessing, though it would likely need to grow in scale for that purpose, maybe that shape is a placeholder.

 

[Movielover]

That's what I'm guessing, though it would likely need to grow in scale for that purpose, maybe that shape is a placeholder.

Possibly, but just comparing in the image to Big Thunder's new train shed its not that much of a difference. Just depends on the type of train/ size of train they will use. I too though am pretty sure that building will be the coaster's train shed.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

There isn’t any operational problem with adding a Villians station - the biggest issue is staffing one more station and making the train more popular which means needing to run more trains and possibly longer hours.

It’s just $$$ but it’s Disney.

Leaving Frontierland station as a visual “set” but not using it operationally is certainly an option as well if they add Villians.

I disagree. If anything, Disney would want to make the trains more popular. There’s an economies of scale to running 3 or even all 4 locomotives at the same time if they build the Villains station. It might cost them more money, but if guests demand it then they are making money too.

 

[DisneyDean97]

What’s a 5 star coaster? If we are talking theme has anything beaten Big Thunder?

I think Expedition Everest is on par with BTM for theming— especially considering how hard it is to hide that coasters infrastructure and supports.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I think Expedition Everest is on par with BTM for theming— especially considering how hard it is to hide that coasters infrastructure and supports.

Everest is good - I’m still sad about missing and broken effects - the fog, the yeti, etc. - both of those can be fixed with some time and money. Even if a full A mode yeti is crazy expensive they could do something better than a strobe light that’s for sure.