DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[gorillaball]

I provided more value than your snarky comment ever will.

FYI, go online, it’s the same way. It is simply reaffirming with what what broke into the “mainstream,” everyone here knows how the Door Coaster went viral on TikTok.

I can play… see my attached detailed analysis.

Also, I don’t know how it went viral on TikTok. So that’s not an accurate assessment “everyone here knows”. You need to realize the world is much bigger than only what you personally witness.

For the record, I am very excited for this. But I’m not going to paint it what it’s not based on 30 strangers.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I provided more value than your snarky comment ever will.

FYI, go online, it’s the same way. It is simply reaffirming with what what broke into the “mainstream,” everyone here knows how the Door Coaster went viral on TikTok.

I truly believe it'll be a hit, I just find assertions like an unofficial poll kinda funny.

If I went onto the street right now I could speak to 30 strangers and they'd likely not know what I was talking about, and then I could come here and say:

"I spoke to 30 strangers and no one knows what a Monsters Inc Coaster even is, or that it's coming. It's gonna fail". Which would obviously not be a fact based approach.

It's gonna be a hit, and if it's not, well that's a story for after it opens.

 

[Pizza Moon]

I can play… see my attached detailed analysis.

Also, I don’t know how it went viral on TikTok. So that’s not an accurate assessment “everyone here knows”. You need to realize the world is much bigger than only what you personally witness.

For the record, I am very excited for this. But I’m not going to paint it what it’s not based on 30 strangers.

I truly believe it'll be a hit, I just find assertions like an unofficial poll kinda funny.

If I went onto the street right now I could speak to 30 strangers and they'd likely not know what I was talking about, and then I could come here and say:

"I spoke to 30 strangers and no one knows what a Monsters Inc Coaster even is, or that it's coming. It's gonna fail". Which would obviously not be a fact based approach.

It's gonna be a hit, and if it's not, well that's a story for after it opens.

You guys are reading way too much into my post it was an anecdote villains and monsters had by far the most attention online. So it lines up with that.

 

[gorillaball]

You guys are reading way too much into my post it was an anecdote villains and monsters had by far the most attention online. So it lines up with that.

Yes, I read too much into…

“the Door Coaster is the most hyped experience coming.

It’s not remotely close.

The ride is going to break social media.”

My bad, I apologize.

 

[Pizza Moon]

Yes, I read too much into…

“the Door Coaster is the most hyped experience coming.

It’s not remotely close.

The ride is going to break social media.”

My bad, I apologize.

You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think the door coaster lifting up in the station won’t go viral on social media in a way Cosmic Rewind or other rides can’t. It has the Hogwarts Express factor.

Online chatter and overall video views and discussion has Monstropolis and Villains over all the other ones, so there’s the info you’re seeking if we want to be technical.

 

[gorillaball]

You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think the door coaster lifting up in the station won’t go viral on social media in a way Cosmic Rewind or other rides can’t. It has the Hogwarts Express factor.

Online chatter and overall video views and discussion has Monstropolis and Villains over all the other ones, so there’s the info you’re seeking if we want to be technical.

Well, that’s because Monsters Inc Coaster HAS a video to see on line. Villians land has… concept art. Tropical America’s at least has a model, but no video.

Again, do not read into my responses that I’m not excited for it (I am), but let’s make realistic proclamations or you won’t be taken seriously.

 

[Pizza Moon]

Well, that’s because Monsters Inc Coaster HAS a video to see on line. Villians land has… concept art. Tropical America’s at least has a model, but no video.

Again, do not read into my responses that I’m not excited for it (I am), but let’s make realistic proclamations or you won’t be taken seriously.

I was being realistic, most people I found were excited for Monsters Inc. on average, but Villains and Cars were mentioned while not a single person picked Tropical Americas, and I think it probably has the highest ROI of any of their new projects in terms of the general public which is what I was getting at. It was totally anecdotal.

I feel like it could pull a Pandora where it brings in people not typically into theme parks just because people really liked the movie’s concept, basically advertises for it. It’s clearly Villains and Monsters Inc. that are being discussed the most online, I mean this data is public, over Tropical Americas or Coco and Cars, etc.

You don’t pull two 20-year old concepts if they don’t have slam dunk ROI potential with all the IP they can milk.

What’s clear though, is all these parks are getting much more after these phases. Tropical Americas needs to pull a Disney Adventure World and start building another ride as Tropical Americas is opening. The Lion King Log ride or an Avatar coaster would have crazy ROI as well.

Like insane ROI.

Everything Disney does is about ROI, not IP or non-IP. If tomorrow you could run the numbers that Mystic Manor would make more money than Encanto, they’d do it in a heartbeat.

 

[eddie104]

What’s clear though, is all these parks are getting much more after these phases. Tropical Americas needs to be a Disney Adventure World and start building another ride as Tropical Americas is opening. The Lion King Log ride or an Avatar coaster would have crazy ROI as well.

I absolutely agree with this.

With Josh on board now I’m hopeful some dead concepts come back to life and make their way into the parks.

 

[gorillaball]

I was being realistic, most people I found were excited for Monsters Inc. on average, but Villains and Cars were mentioned while not a single person picked Tropical Americas, and I think it probably has the highest ROI of any of their new projects in terms of the general public which is what I was getting at. It was totally anecdotal.

I feel like it could pull a Pandora where it brings in people not typically into theme parks just because people really liked the movie’s concept, basically advertises for it. It’s clearly Villains and Monsters Inc. that are being discussed the most online, I mean this data is public, over Tropical Americas or Coco and Cars, etc.

You don’t pull two 20-year old concepts if they don’t have slam dunk ROI potential with all the IP they can milk.

What’s clear though, is all these parks are getting much more after these phases. Tropical Americas needs to pull a Disney Adventure World and start building another ride as Tropical Americas is opening. The Lion King Log ride or an Avatar coaster would have crazy ROI as well.

Like insane ROI.

Everything Disney does is about ROI, not IP or non-IP. If tomorrow you could run the numbers that Mystic Manor would make more money than Encanto, they’d do it in a heartbeat.

Agree with the basics of this.

Pandora does need another ride. You build that much base infrastructure you need to have 3 rides feeding off of it.

Similar for Galaxy’s Edge but it doesn’t have quite as simple of a plug and play space for a ride as Pandora does.

Honestly out of all the projects I think Tropical America’s could be the sleeper. Largely because it’s getting less attention, but I’ll just have to wait and see.

 

[Pizza Moon]

Agree with the basics of this.

Pandora does need another ride. You build that much base infrastructure you need to have 3 rides feeding off of it.

Similar for Galaxy’s Edge but it doesn’t have quite as simple of a plug and play space for a ride as Pandora does.

Honestly out of all the projects I think Tropical America’s could be the sleeper. Largely because it’s getting less attention, but I’ll just have to wait and see.

Tropical Americas will be super successful. Per dollar spent the return will probably be less though (no way to know without internal sim numbers).

AK will need more after if they want to not f up their momentum like they did with Pandora.

 

[gorillaball]

Tropical Americas will be super successful. Per dollar spent the return will probably be less though (no way to know without internal sim numbers).

AK will need more after if they want to not f up their momentum like they did with Pandora.

Yes it does need more. Another entire land and a night show back on the lagoon and … struggling for right descriptor…. One very very highly quality full day park.

Quality surpasses many existing Disney and Uni parks, it just lacks the volume of that quality.

 

[doctornick]

Yes it does need more. Another entire land and a night show back on the lagoon and … struggling for right descriptor…. One very very highly quality full day park.

Quality surpasses many existing Disney and Uni parks, it just lacks the volume of that quality.

I don’t think it “needs” another full land - though one would certainly be nice - but another ride in Africa or Pandora (or both!) plus a new nighttime show would I think really round things out and make long hours justifiable.

Also could consider a daytime show in the lagoon too to expand the offerings.

 

[FigmentFan82]

Legit question. If I recall, based on that early model, they showed many speculated that the ride length of the monsters door coaster wouldn’t be that long, fearing it would be an overall short experience. However, the plot that they’re working on to create the door coaster seems quite large. Did this possibly get an increase in size? Or is this always the same size it was supposed to be and some of the size of this will get eaten up by other things than the coaster itself?

 

[Pizza Moon]

Well, that’s because Monsters Inc Coaster HAS a video to see on line. Villians land has… concept art. Tropical America’s at least has a model, but no video.

Again, do not read into my responses that I’m not excited for it (I am), but let’s make realistic proclamations or you won’t be taken seriously.

I was thinking about this more, and Disney needs to start creating their rides virtually to build hype in a Fortnite or other platforms, perhaps their own.

All their concept art releases should coincide with blue sky ideas that may not necessarily happen but just really clever concepts.

I know they have industry trade secrets to some degree, but simple schematics like what they did with the Door Coaster is how you go viral today and market.

Short form video is king. As is showing your average guests, kids, teens, young adults, the elderly, all enjoying my the parks together and in their own ways. Disney markets so much to little kids so can can trap people into the cycle, but if you’re building a new experiences you need to bring in new people in. I think Universal does a much better job of this.

They can both learn from each other though. Universal needs a Pirates type of ride at each park, the Dreamworks land and Suess Landing could each use a Grinch and Shrek family dark ride. Disney could also build a VeloCiCoaster, but I think a Hagrid’s/Taron is the move for Villains, Avatar, and Galaxy’s Edge. I’d drop a mountain coaster or Crush’s Coaster at EPCOT.

 

[gorillaball]

I was thinking about this more, and Disney needs to start creating their rides virtually to build hype in a Fortnite or other platforms, perhaps their own.

All their concept art releases should coincide with blue sky ideas that may not necessarily happen but just really clever concepts.

I know they have industry trade secrets to some degree, but simple schematics like what they did with the Door Coaster is how you go viral today and market.

Short form video is king. As is showing your average guests, kids, teens, young adults, the elderly, all enjoying my the parks together and in their own ways. Disney markets so much to little kids so can can trap people into the cycle, but if you’re building a new experiences you need to bring in new people in. I think Universal does a much better job of this.

They can both learn from each other though. Universal needs a Pirates type of ride at each park, the Dreamworks land and Suess Landing could each use a Grinch and Shrek family dark ride. Disney could also build a VeloCiCoaster, but I think a Hagrid’s/Taron is the move for Villains, Avatar, and Galaxy’s Edge. I’d drop a mountain coaster or Crush’s Coaster at EPCOT.

I disagree, I think Disney needs to tone down the information available until it’s further along.

Just by the very nature of it being Disney, they will get plenty of air time, they don’t even have to try… when the time is right.

Underpromise, overdeliver.

Quality will advertise.

Waiting makes construction timelines “seem” to go faster.

Universal does better of keeping announcements buried until later.

 

[rle4lunch]

Agree with the basics of this.

Pandora does need another ride. You build that much base infrastructure you need to have 3 rides feeding off of it.

Similar for Galaxy’s Edge but it doesn’t have quite as simple of a plug and play space for a ride as Pandora does.

Honestly out of all the projects I think Tropical America’s could be the sleeper. Largely because it’s getting less attention, but I’ll just have to wait and see.

Just add another damn spinner, we can't get ENOUGH spinners!!

 

[Pizza Moon]

To

I disagree, I think Disney needs to tone down the information available until it’s further along.

Just by the very nature of it being Disney, they will get plenty of air time, they don’t even have to try… when the time is right.

Underpromise, overdeliver.

Quality will advertise.

Waiting makes construction timelines “seem” to go faster.

Universal does better of keeping announcements buried until later.

totally Disagree. Epic had crazy hype because of Alicia Stella.

Once the construction is going give us updates.

Do not tell us about a California Adventure Avatar Land that won’t open for many years.

 

[gorillaball]

To

totally Disagree. Epic had crazy hype because of Alicia Stella.

Once the construction is going give us updates.

Do not tell us about a California Adventure Avatar Land that won’t open for many years.

I think we are saying the same thing, at least we are now.

Talk about things that are happening, not when it’s a sketch. Didn’t you say they should hype blue sky sketches?

“All their concept art releases should coincide with blue sky ideas that may not necessarily happen but just really clever concepts.“

 

[Pizza Moon]

I think we are saying the same thing, at least we are now.

Talk about things that are happening, not when it’s a sketch. Didn’t you say they should hype blue sky sketches?

“All their concept art releases should coincide with blue sky ideas that may not necessarily happen but just really clever concepts.“

Well the design process a lot can change, so things won’t end up exactly as the finished product. As long as they don’t reveal every surprise there’s nothing wrong with this, it it should only be for active construction projects.

 

[_caleb]

Just add another damn spinner, we can't get ENOUGH spinners!!
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