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DHS Disney Animation-Inspired Experience Coming to Disney’s Hollywood Studios

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
That’s actually a plus for Disneyland and a negative for Walt Disney World. It means greater ride quantity per park, which means more bang for your buck and better guest distribution, which means less time wasted in lines.

What rides have we lost at Disneyland as of late? Splash Mountain? Yeah that one stung, but guess where else we lost that? Mike and Sully to the rescue? Yeah it’s not ideal, but it was a bandaid solution retheme and the park is at least getting two additionally family friendly dark rides to compensate.
And all the Bugs' rides/attractions.

DLR and WDW are two different resorts parks. They have had the same number of rides. But for WDW, which has four parks, it has to spread them out among all four parks. Compared to just Disneyland, it makes each park -- on its own -- look anemic... from a certain point of view. But from the view of the whole resorts, it's equal in rides. It's also funny how you point this out as if this wasn't a well-known fact for decades.

So, when looked at in toto, they are equal in the number of rides. However, when you also consider the number of non-ride attractions, WDW blows DL out of the water.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
on the flip side…. It seems reasonable the worlds #1 most visited theme park should have as many attractions as the #2.
Yes, that's the "certain point of view" I mentioned.

It's the point of view in which one blinds oneself to the fact that the individual park is part of a large complex, that is, the entire resort.

MK will never have as many *rides* as DL. But it's number one because it's part of the larger resort complex. (Not to mention having more non-ride attractions than DL.)

I suppose if MK and DL were totally stand-alone parks with no other attached parks or amenities, DL would win hands down.
 

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
I suppose if MK and DL were totally stand-alone parks with no other attached parks or amenities, DL would win hands down.
Exactly. So if someone was visiting one castle park for 1 day (which many people do) - the Disneyland park is the much better park and better value for the money correct?

I’m not saying the WDW resort as a whole doesn’t count - it certainly does. It’s impressive.
 

MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
Fine, I’ll just say it. I used to go to a coffee shop that provided free drawing lessons to the public to attract customers. Rather than follow pre-determined templates, the artist would ask the audience what they wanted to learn how to draw. Completely open-ended, with the exception of copyrighted material, of course. The artist would teach the lesson and the final artwork would have a completely unique take on it every time, even if he had gotten that request before. Something was different. More refined. More wacky. A different perspective. A different style. You name it.

The customers freaking loved it. And, during the lesson, it was by far the most popular coffee shop in the area.

There was no template. There was freedom. The artist felt empowered and autonomous in their dream job.
How is this relevant to CM's at WDW?

Somebody who once worked in a coffee shop as a barista (and part-time teaching customers) appeared happy is not proof that the WDW drawing CM's disliked (or liked) their job.

Anyone who works for tips....

Did you never have a such a job yourself?

I would think if you did, you'd know tipped jobs entail putting on a happy face for the customers. Even the obnoxious ones.

I would not describe teaching (the same material multiple times) as monotonous, because the students' reactions vary every time.

On the other hand, teaching isn't a good job for everyone. I think we've all met people who disliked their job, no matter what job it is. If teaching doesn't sound like a job you would enjoy, then it might not be a good fit for you.

As for the CM's, while some might have prefer more freedom, others might enjoy having a strict lesson plan.
 

MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
Exactly. So if someone was visiting one castle park for 1 day (which many people do) - the Disneyland park is the much better park and better value for the money correct?

I’m not saying the WDW resort as a whole doesn’t count - it certainly does. It’s impressive.
That might depend on a few other factors...

Someone who lives close to FL might factor travel costs into the overall decision.
Someone might also have a bias/preference for FL or CA.
Or some aspect of either, like traffic or the weather.

(I would think, most people aren't taking a 1-day cross-country trip. I would think most 1-dayers are also spending a day or two elsewhere in the state.)
 

MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
Thank you for sharing your perspective!
and yours.

I'm not trying to be snarky. Just trying to encourage you to think a little more broadly.

I don't often share this on the forum, but I have experience working as an educator. (Plus several members of my extended family.)

For me, teaching the same thing often became more interesting the more I taught it. Sometimes I'd teach the same lesson multiple times in one day, and the students' reactions always varied widely! Not only that, but year-to-year, what I was teaching was often relevant to current events. but how the material was relevant changed over time.

In the case of CM's teaching a cartoon, I can easily imagine that the popularity of drawing specific characters would vary somewhat every time a movie came out, like drawing Simba when the LK live action movie came out. Then maybe people would get sick of Simba. Some people find that kind of change interesting.

Remember when Frozen came out, and it was EVERYWHERE for a long time, then all at once, Frozen became disco-kryptonite for a time. And then a few years later, kids who once loved Frozen remembered that they once loved Frozen.

Disney has made an art of knowing when to re-release characters their audiences once loved. Though sometimes maybe they also flub the situation.

Do we know what characters will be at the meet and greets? Will they change, as they have in the past, with each new movie release?

Also- the more I taught the same material, the better I got at teaching it. Often, my teaching improved because I incorporated suggestions for my students, or I learned to anticipate their reactions. In the case of drawing, CM's would learn when to go slow, and when to speed up.

With recorded lessons, you can't do that. You can't adjust based on feedback.
 
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MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
Did you honestly think I was suggesting that someone should fly from Florida to California because a one day Disneyland park ticket would be a better value?
well that was sorta the nature of the discussion....

I was sorta thinking in terms of my own visits to Disneyland Paris. It did not occur to me to even think about how many rides are in the park. (One reason: at the time, DP was far less crowded than either US park.)

Partly, I'm saying I've been reading/discussing Disney for a long time. People choose one over the other for many reasons.
 

MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
Ask any child who'd they rather learn to draw from: Olaf the snowman or some random grown-up they've never seen before. Who wins?

You might be surprised.

If you just said Olaf, he'd probably win. If you said pre-recorded or live teacher, live teacher might win.

In education, there's rarely 100% this or that thing works for everyone.

One thing many people don't know is that there are a wide variety of learning modes. Some people learn best by seeing, others by hearing, and many by doing.
Learning disabilities are also very specific. Some oeople can read a paper just fine, but can't process information on a chalkboard (distance).

Live CM's can do a better job of modifying to fit the class. Like maybe students want the CM to repeat a step. A recording can't do that.
 

GenChi

Well-Known Member
Who applauded????

Unfortunately most. Everyone keeps calling the era where hand-drawn was eliminated the "revival era", everyone gave the vote of confidence for the guy who removed it after lying to Roy about keeping it and says his first reign makes him the best CEO since Walt, and look at the box office results from the public (in which no one calls out Iger putting WTP against the final Harry Potter film which ended 2d films). Unfortunately hand-drawn animation was ended with great fanfare for the CGI future, even if imo every film looking the same is biting them back now.. But execs love the control they have over the product late in production with CGI so.


Relating to this area, that is why they cannot bring the area and live instructors back like it was in the 2000s. Because those animation skills and staffing scale were largely lost outside a select handful the past 15 years (those remaining are being featured in the video content for this attraction). That world no longer exists.
 

DCBaker

Premium Member
Original Poster
Aerial photos from bioreconstruct:

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Video:

 

HMF

Well-Known Member
Exactly. So if someone was visiting one castle park for 1 day (which many people do) - the Disneyland park is the much better park and better value for the money correct?

I’m not saying the WDW resort as a whole doesn’t count - it certainly does. It’s impressive.
Disneyland Park is the only domestic park I can bear visiting at this point.
 

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