MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[lazyboy97o]

I was not implying they did.

You didn’t imply, you outright said it.
“WDI was betting in the late 80s that we would still be talking about Roger Rabbit in 30 years and they promoted him heavily in the MGM marketing material.”

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

You didn’t imply, you outright said it.

So… “they” = the parent company of WDI? Is that honestly what you are arguing here?

 

[lazyboy97o]

So… “they” = the parent company of WDI? Is that honestly what you are arguing here?

Pronouns often refer to an identified subject not some other unidentified entity. Pretty much nothing done with Roger Rabbit at the Disney-MGM Studios was done by Walt Disney Imagineering. They never actually built any of the rides.

 

[Brer Oswald]

Still can’t believe we’re getting this instead of Radiator Springs in Hollywood Studios. What a tremendous miss.

 

[FigmentFan82]

Still can’t believe we’re getting this instead of Radiator Springs in Hollywood Studios. What a tremendous miss.

Was there ever a rumor we were getting radiator springs in Hollywood Studios? I don’t recall one.

 

[Brer Oswald]

Was there ever a rumor we were getting radiator springs in Hollywood Studios? I don’t recall one.

A while back. I think they were looking at the North West corner of the park. The straight port of Disneyland’s Galaxy’s Edge beat it out. There were rumours for a while that it might be an eventual “phase 2” or “phase 3”.

Wish they would just build a Universal style parking garage at that park. Then they’d have all kinds of room to expand.

 

[mattpeto]

Still can’t believe we’re getting this instead of Radiator Springs in Hollywood Studios. What a tremendous miss.

I love RSR but I'm glad it's unique to DCA.

 

[Brer Oswald]

I love RSR but I'm glad it's unique to DCA.

That’s great for people that have the time and money to travel to both resorts on a whim.

 

[mickEblu]

That’s great for people that have the time and money to travel to both resorts on a whim.

Right. Did I read somewhere that differentiating WDW and DLR is a new business strategy? Thats interesting to me as WDW and DLR will always be different enough to warrant at least one trip to one or the other. Not that I’m opposed to this new anti clone initiative but it’s interesting that jet setting Disney adults would be this high priority to them.

 

[Brer Oswald]

Right. Did I read somewhere that differentiating WDW and DLR is a new business strategy? Thats interesting to me as WDW and DLR will always be different enough to warrant at least one trip to one or the other. Not that I’m opposed to this new anti clone initiative but it’s interesting that jet setting Disney adults would be this high priority to them.

There’s also ways of creating differences in lands and attractions while still maintaining the core experience. They had no issues doing this with Adventureland or the Haunted Mansion. I don’t see anyone arguing that those shouldn’t be in the Magic Kingdom because they’re in Disneyland.

This “no clones” initiative becomes troublesome when they want to use the same IPs at different resorts. There’s only so many good ideas that can spawn out of one IP. Cars IS Radiator Springs. If you aren’t doing Radiator Springs, you shouldn’t be doing Cars. This is coming from someone that can quote the entirety of the first movie and probably understands the appeal of the film more than most.

 

[mattpeto]

They are damned if they use clones and damned if they do not.

 

[Brer Oswald]

They are damned if they use clones and damned if they do not.

Only damned if they’re cloning lacklustre attractions in cheap ways.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Right. Did I read somewhere that differentiating WDW and DLR is a new business strategy? Thats interesting to me as WDW and DLR will always be different enough to warrant at least one trip to one or the other. Not that I’m opposed to this new anti clone initiative but it’s interesting that jet setting Disney adults would be this high priority to them.

I don’t think that it’s so much that they are catering to an audience visiting both as it is that they didn’t really see any savings. Ratatouille and TRON weren’t much cheaper than brand new attractions even with the edict to minimize changes. The “design once, build twice” of Galaxy’s Edge was a bit of a headache and that was in the US where there is a lot of regulation overlap.

 

[mickEblu]

I don’t think that it’s so much that they are catering to an audience visiting both as it is that they didn’t really see any savings. Ratatouille and TRON weren’t much cheaper than brand new attractions even with the edict to minimize changes. The “design once, build twice” of Galaxy’s Edge was a bit of a headache and that was in the US where there is a lot of regulation overlap.

This makes more sense.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Right. Did I read somewhere that differentiating WDW and DLR is a new business strategy? Thats interesting to me as WDW and DLR will always be different enough to warrant at least one trip to one or the other. Not that I’m opposed to this new anti clone initiative but it’s interesting that jet setting Disney adults would be this high priority to them.

In my opinion, The destruction of RoA, TSI and the Liberty Bell, was done for multiple business reasons; lower maintenance costs, build attractions that would sell LLs and the reason Disney destroys and replaces instead of actually expanding I suspect its cheaper and faster (faster for Disney even at the pace they do things) to do so.

As much as I am against this destroy and replace, it will increase capacity as folks will be waiting in the queues for the new Cars attractions an not not wondering the park waiting for their next LL.

 

[mattpeto]

Only damned if they’re cloning lacklustre attractions in cheap ways.

Who says it will be cheap? Who says the attraction will be lackluster?

 

[J4546]

Still can’t believe we’re getting this instead of Radiator Springs in Hollywood Studios. What a tremendous miss.

meh i like thats theres 2 different cars lands. I REALLY wish they had made Star Wars land take place on 2 different planets as well

 

[ChewbaccaYourMum]

I’m referring to the recent slate of clones people seem to have a problem with.

Could you give me a list of which clones and which people? I'm just curious to see which ones I agree with that you're thinking about.

Personally, the only thing I have had a problem with is Tiana, but I know a lot of friends and family who love it.

 

[Brer Oswald]

Could you give me a list of which clones and which people? I'm just curious to see which ones I agree with that you're thinking about.

Personally, the only thing I have had a problem with is Tiana, but I know a lot of friends and family who love it.

Galaxy’s Edge at WDW
Tron
Ratatouille
Runaway Railway (the original being the problem)
Frozen Ever After
Avenger’s Campus

These are pretty well the only attractions I hear complaints about being cloned. Even so, I don’t hear many complaints about Rise being cloned.

This whole clone debate is stupid. If it is a clone of a great attraction or land, then it will be received well.

 

[Brer Oswald]

meh i like thats theres 2 different cars lands. I REALLY wish they had made Star Wars land take place on 2 different planets as well

You like the idea of 2 different lands. When the dust settles, you’ll be wishing Radiator Springs was in Florida.

The issue with Star Wars land is multi fold, but the main issue is that the land just isn’t appealing enough to be in one park let alone two. Also, directly copying the “designed for Disneyland” layout it complicates future expansion at the studio park. If they built, say, Endor with a Death Star at both parks but gave them slightly different layouts, you’d hear zero complaints.