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MK Piston Peak and Villains Land Construction Thread

MrPromey

MrPromey

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Stripes said:
Does anybody know when exactly this document was filed with the Florida Department of Environmental Protection?

My thought is: sure, you can submit a new document later, but if this document was just filed and the rumored changes to the plans were ordered late last year/earlier this year, why would they submit plans for review that they already know are inaccurate?

Perhaps @lazyboy97o can shed some light on the validity of my logic.

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I work for a company a minuscule fraction of the size of Disney and projects that are obsolete/outdated before completion get completed all the time. Who's to say why?

Left hand not talking to the right hand? A team still looking to get "credit" for a completed project that's already been budgeted for a bullet point on someone's PowerPoint somewhere? A singular person somewhere in the mix with a god complex who can't be reasoned with and is able to dodge accountability like Neo doges bullets in the Matrix?

All I know is I see tons of resources used every day that the people at the very top looking for results would not appreciate if they fully realized/understood what was happening beneath them. If it can happen in a company with less than 2k employees, I'm sure it's rampant at a place like Disney where the personal advancement of most individual's careers has zero to do with the best interests of the company.

In that way, a pointless permit is like a sneeze.
 
Stripes

Stripes

Premium Member
Great article from Tom Bricker!
I’ve heard credible chatter that the company is investing more in Parks & Resorts as a whole and Walt Disney World specifically than previously announced. I don’t know if this is the consequence of inflation, tariffs, or the substance of the plans getting more ambitious. I also don’t know if this means more money allocated towards what’s already been announced, or other projects that are in the pipeline.

With all of that said, I’ve heard absolutely nothing to suggest that the ‘meat’ of the plans for Villains Land have changed. Which is to say that, to the best of my knowledge, Villains Land still consists of a roller coaster and a dark ride, plus retail and a restaurant.

If those foundational elements are unchanged, I would have a difficult time saying the plans have been “scrapped” or that Imagineering has gone back to the drawing board. This is more a matter of enhancing existing plans to unlock their full potential than starting from square one with a blank slate.

In other words, it’s probably not like what happened early during the development of what became Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge or Fantasy Springs (both of which actually became ‘bigger and bolder’ projects). It’s probably not even akin to New Fantasyland, which (thankfully) had Seven Dwarfs Mine Train added after the original announcement.
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www.disneytouristblog.com

Is Disney World Going Bigger & Bolder on Villains Land?

A new rumor is swirling that Walt Disney World's initial plans for the upcoming Villains Land at Magic Kingdom have been "scrapped," and Imagineering has gone back to the drawing board to come up with
www.disneytouristblog.com www.disneytouristblog.com
 
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Unbanshee

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Fox&Hound said:
So is what they are laying down the total width? That snake looking structure?
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Perhaps something like this?

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Centauri Space Station

Centauri Space Station

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Brer Oswald said:
Better than Tokyo and California? Tokyo probably has the best blend of modern and classic Fantasyland. The classic Fantasy Faire style is kept in pristine condition, plus they have state of the art Pooh and BatB rides.

Disneyland Fantasyland is what all Fantasyland’s should be like. High quantity and quality of Classic Dark Rides. Best Small World too.
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it’s the original small world and has the superior facade but having scenes only one side most of the time and the trough devalues it. DLP probably has best IASW.
Brer Oswald said:
That’s quite hysterical. 1, 2, and 3 would have NEVER happened under his watch. 4…it’s possible. But it wouldn’t have been bland Apple Park mixed with Pixar/Marvel rejects. Probably would’ve been gaudy, but more original, and I’d gladly take that over the garbage we have now.
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He began the downfall of future world, opened DAK woefully undeveloped with cheap CMM and dinorama, and let MGM grow worse after TOT opened.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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flynnibus said:
Yeah, I always goto my Travel Blogger as my goto for corporate insight and insider trading news too! (not)
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Is there some old bad blood I’m missing?

What are our long history of second-hand sources if not a forum owner, a documentary-style YouTuber, a vloger, a trip advisor, a gossip columnist, a “hillbilly” or someone who threatened to start a blog?

I’ve never found Tom to be someone who malingers. I’m certain by this point he also knows a few people.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

Premium Member
BrianLo said:
Is there some old bad blood I’m missing?
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No bad blood - just common sense. Tom's got wonderful content - but at the end of the day he's a travel blogger and lifestyle guy. He's not plugged into the mothership, nor is he in the building getting his own tidbits.

I mean his article even states "It strikes me as superficially plausible that Villains Land has changed from the initial plans. At least, in a loose and partial sense. Let’s quickly run through the reasons."

It's commentary on news.. aka talking head reading other news. Might as well be reading my comments on the matter.

Two, you get heavy hitters like..
"Separately, I’ve heard credible chatter that the company is investing more in Parks & Resorts as a whole and Walt Disney World specifically than previously announced."

Rly? Like the earnings calls and countless pitching about the parks performance didn't give you this hint?

Listen.. I don't goto the youtube comments to find the analysts, and I don't goto the travel blogs to get my briefs on what is really happening in the executive briefings.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
flynnibus said:
No bad blood - just common sense. Tom's got wonderful content - but at the end of the day he's a travel blogger and lifestyle guy. He's not plugged into the mothership, nor is he in the building getting his own tidbits.

I mean his article even states "It strikes me as superficially plausible that Villains Land has changed from the initial plans. At least, in a loose and partial sense. Let’s quickly run through the reasons."

It's commentary on news.. aka talking head reading other news. Might as well be reading my comments on the matter.

Two, you get heavy hitters like..
"Separately, I’ve heard credible chatter that the company is investing more in Parks & Resorts as a whole and Walt Disney World specifically than previously announced."

Rly? Like the earnings calls and countless pitching about the parks performance didn't give you this hint?

Listen.. I don't goto the youtube comments to find the analysts, and I don't goto the travel blogs to get my briefs on what is really happening in the executive briefings.
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Gotcha!

I will say though he seems to be on the mild inner media circle in recent years. He was brought into that small imagineering conference a little while back with people like Scott Gustin.

So I don’t take it so much as grifting like others would pass-off “hearing” something as merely reading it on this forum. But yes, most of the article reads like his own commentary otherwise.
 
JD80

JD80

Well-Known Member
BrianLo said:
Is there some old bad blood I’m missing?

What are our long history of second-hand sources if not a forum owner, a documentary-style YouTuber, a vloger, a trip advisor, a gossip columnist, a “hillbilly” or someone who threatened to start a blog?

I’ve never found Tom to be someone who malingers. I’m certain by this point he also knows a few people.
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Toms biggest problem is he doesn't date his articles. Then he updates them months or years later without any recorded time stamps.

Frustrating but I like his writing from time to time.
 
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DisneyHead123

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BrianLo said:
I will say though he seems to be on the mild inner media circle in recent years. He was brought into that small imagineering conference a little while back with people like Scott Gustin.

So I don’t take it so much as grifting like others would pass-off “hearing” something as merely reading it on this forum. But yes, most of the article reads like his own commentary otherwise.
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He recently interviewed D’Amaro along with some other bloggers. I don’t know anything about all the layers of “insider status”, and further, most people who are truly insiders probably aren’t sharing what they actually know. But I assume he’s in there somewhere.
 

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