MK Piston Peak and Villains Land Construction Thread

[bmr1591]

I think we'd all prefer to wait a year and it surpass expectations than come out on time and be an utter letdown.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I never believed there was a “there” here…

And this kinda confirmed that. Another “announcement” of nothing but the loosest of “maybes”

So perhaps joshie poo is attempting to get something “big” out of bobs “just promise them nothing”?

It could be good…
…timeframe is the downside. Hopefully you have your next of kin notified to keep an eye out on the opening date…

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think we'd all prefer to wait a year and it surpass expectations than come out on time and be an utter letdown.

“Waiting a year” when they didn’t tell you when upfront is an oh so dangerous game to play with the Walt Disney company

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

In 5-9 years…wdw might be looking to “draw off of” development at USO…

Is that even conceivable? It should never have been and is a dreadful mistake…

Bobby better make sure he spares no expense when he picks the varnish to coat his impeccable legacy within Orlando…It’s gonna need to be able to handle a lot of abuse

 

[Pizza Moon]

This lines up with what I heard about Josh. He took over and something got sent out. He seems to be bringing some kind of energy to the parks hasn't been seen in a while. He came in with plans for the parks, some of them could be considered epic. If what he wants gets done, who knows (we all know what happens when $ is brought in). But it has Josh directly pushing it so there's a chance.

These next few years could be very exciting and I'm just talking about Florida.

Meanwhile I'm sitting here just saying "Please get SSE all shined up and let WDI call Tony back and run wild with no limits for Imagination".

It’s pretty obvious what’s going on.

They haven’t even announced enough capex to cover half of their decade spend. It’s been very obvious they spending has been downplayed by the public just based on how much people were soured by the COVID-era, but it was never grounded in reality, and now with Iger out of the way and Josh so focused on gaming and parks, it seems like the company has the right ideas again.

There’s no reason we shouldn’t expect just a ton of attractions, expansions too. Tangled rides, Imagination redos, Lion King, Moana, Aladdin, Lilo and Stitch, whatever.

Frankly I think the Villains land should have a Nightmare Before Christmas miniland like Donkey Kong at Epic though, so if they do something like that, holy.

After Pandora, Animal Kingdom should’ve continued expanding, but they didn’t.

It’s pretty obvious that after all the wave of current announcements, they are going to keep expanding and do it on a scale that’s more like Epic.

Epic genuinely has changed the game guys. It is the only theme park in Orlando that feels like Tokyo DisneySea with the scale of its themed immersive environments.

 

[monothingie]

@lentesta adding a matching themed hotel and direct gate would certainly "plus" it. Unless they pull a sequel to the Star Wars Hotel concept.

 

[phillip9698]

Josh needs to break the mold of the template of new land = 1 E ticket and 1 smaller ride. Look to the other lands in MK. If they want this to be a “land” comparable to the others in MK, they need to extend beyond the berm, along with a train station have 4 rides, E Dark ride, E coaster, and 2 smaller rides, a quick serve and a sit down, and obviously shopping. There should also be a stage for performances. I’ve always felt from the beginning that they should have a show that is done in answer to the show they put on at Cinderella’s castle. And if a path could be made from Fantasyland to Villians land, there could be moments where the Fantasyland character could run into their Villians counterpart. There could be so much interplay with the characters here it would be fantastic.

WDW got way too into the pattern of Pandora got 2 attractions, SWGE got 2 attractions, TSL got 2 new attractions. They need to stop this. It’s like the financial people mathematically determined that a land maximizes its ROA with only 2 rides/attractions. There should be way more wild creativity from land to land.

IMO it seems as if the fans always want a COMPLETE land at opening because why not, we always want more. But the companies don’t want to max out available space in one go because then you have no room for expansion or adapting a new technology without demolition.

If it was up to the fans then all of the MK expansion pads would have been used 20 years ago.

 

[Pizza Moon]

I have no insider info, but NBC feels aesthetically disjointed from all other properties. I don't see them using it, even if it is popular.

They should do a miniland like Donkey Kong.

 

[Andrew C]

The scrapping the current plan is scary to me. How underwhelming must it have been? What’s good is they seem to be recognizing that.

Does Piston Peak need a relook as well?

 

[HauntedPirate]

It’s pretty obvious what’s going on.

They haven’t even announced enough capex to cover half of their decade spend. It’s been very obvious they spending has been downplayed by the public just based on how much people were soured by the COVID-era, but it was never grounded in reality, and now with Iger out of the way and Josh so focused on gaming and parks, it seems like the company has the right ideas again.

There’s no reason we shouldn’t expect just a ton of attractions, expansions too. Tangled rides, Imagination redos, Lion King, Moana, Aladdin, Lilo and Stitch, whatever.

Frankly I think the Villains land should have a Nightmare Before Christmas miniland like Donkey Kong at Epic though, so if they do something like that, holy.

After Pandora, Animal Kingdom should’ve continued expanding, but they didn’t.

It’s pretty obvious that after all the wave of current announcements, they are going to keep expanding and do it on a scale that’s more like Epic.

Epic genuinely has changed the game guys. It is the only theme park in Orlando that feels like Tokyo DisneySea with the scale of its themed immersive environments.

You really think all of that's even in the same galaxy as "possible" for $17 billion? When at least a billion or two are already being spent?

 

[HauntedPirate]

"Scrapping original plans"

"bigger and bolder"

 

[KDM31091]

I guess now Villains is surely not happening before 2030 or so but if it has the right budget now, it could be worth it. This makes sense with how vague they've been about what exactly the land will have.

 

[Stripes]

Very, very excited about this new era at WDI! Great times ahead!

 

[dmc493]

4. They're basically ceding a second (third?) development cycle to USO. By this time they'll have phase 2 of EU done, will that make whatever is being done here irrelevant?

There's still plenty opening in the next 4 years to garner attention while this gets flushed out

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

It makes me wonder.

1. Can WDI do this? No seriously, most of the recent product from WDI has been mid at best (and that's a stretch). Is there any talent left there to "plus" this...and it must have been bad with the original plan.

2. Revenge of the Bean Counters. Don't think for a second that budgets won't be trimmed.

3. A lot can happen in the next 5-9 years with TWDC. In 5 years TWDC is going on their 3rd CEO. Will Josh last? Will other corporate factors have an unforeseen impact?

4. They're basically ceding a second (third?) development cycle to USO. By this time they'll have phase 2 of EU done, will that make whatever is being done here irrelevant?

They still have the cars expansion, Monsters land, Tropical Americas, and the tons of attraction updates already planned. I think they will be fine. Afawk, Universal only has 2 rides coming up

 

[monothingie]

They still have the cars expansion, Monsters land, Tropical Americas, and the tons of attraction updates already planned. I think they will be fine. Afawk, Universal only has 2 rides coming up

EU Phase two will have Zelda Land and a Luigi's Mansion Attraction.

USO and IOA will have a land replacing Simpsons, Fast&Furious, Potential Wicked based attraction or land.

 

[monothingie]

Very, very excited about this new era at WDI! Great times ahead!

 

[Jambo Dad]

Well I am at leas

Very, very excited about this new era at WDI! Great times ahead!

Well I am at least cautiously optimistic for a change. I think they need to start by making sure Cars is a real home run - considering what they removed for it. This mandate may well delay the next phase though.

 

[James Alucobond]

EU Phase two will have Zelda Land and a Luigi's Mansion Attraction.

USO and IOA will have a land replacing Simpsons, Fast&Furious, Potential Wicked based attraction or land.

That still doesn't explain how they're ceding the next development cycle to Universal, per your claim. That's maybe a land's worth of new things with a bunch of likely replacement, which is at best equal to what is known for WDW even minus Villains, plus the Universal slate is way more speculative at this point.

 

[FigmentFan82]

I’ll remain cautiously optimistic about all of the planned updates coming. It will be very telling in August at D 23 what they choose to show and what they don’t.