News Disney Lakeshore Lodge (Project 89 - Development near Fort Wilderness)

[Movielover]

That was the point?

Kind of helps to use up-to-date imagery to prove your point. That way you don't look out of touch. Just saying.

 

[JoeCamel]

Kind of helps to use up-to-date imagery to prove your point. That way you don't look out of touch. Just saying.

I worked hard to find that image, 4 clicks at least

 

[FigmentFan82]

I know no one wanted the Poly Tower, and it def has faults, but it isn’t way too off from the Aulani towers. Yes the Aulani towers have some nice extra theming to them but are also fairly common looking hotel towers. Lakeshore def looks rough now but it might come together at the end with some of the rustic embellishments here and there

 

[monorail81]

I know no one wanted the Poly Tower, and it def has faults, but it isn’t way too off from the Aulani towers. Yes the Aulani towers have some nice extra theming to them but are also fairly common looking hotel towers. Lakeshore def looks rough now but it might come together at the end with some of the rustic embellishments here and there

The problem with Lakeshore isn’t so much the look but rather the location. Literally in the middle of the Settlement at the Fort and taking up half the beach area. Had they slid it down the beach towards the Lodge even just a few hundred feet, I don’t think people would be as upset.

 

[Ayla]

I know no one wanted the Poly Tower, and it def has faults, but it isn’t way too off from the Aulani towers. Yes the Aulani towers have some nice extra theming to them but are also fairly common looking hotel towers. Lakeshore def looks rough now but it might come together at the end with some of the rustic embellishments here and there

It isn't the look, it is the location.

 

[HauntedPirate]

I know no one wanted the Poly Tower, and it def has faults, but it isn’t way too off from the Aulani towers. Yes the Aulani towers have some nice extra theming to them but are also fairly common looking hotel towers. Lakeshore def looks rough now but it might come together at the end with some of the rustic embellishments here and there

So hotel towers on a beach in Oahu are similar to a hotel tower around Seven Seas Lagoon? That's... something.

 

[TimbertopNJ]

What do you think was Disney's rationale putting LSL so close to Pioneer Hall?

In the case of PIT, the location (while unpopular) makes some sense. If you want firework views, and be near Poly, that was probably the best site.

In the case with Riviera, it feels like they started with the concept of the Skyliner and worked backwards towards the resort design.

How did they land on 2 feet from FTW? Any thoughts? Was there existing infrastructure that made sense?

 

[monorail81]

What do you think was Disney's rationale putting LSL so close to Pioneer Hall?

In the case of PIT, the location (while unpopular) makes some sense. If you want firework views, and be near Poly, that was probably the best site.

In the case with Riviera, it feels like they started with the concept of the Skyliner and worked backwards towards the resort design.

How did they land on 2 feet from FTW? Any thoughts? Was there existing infrastructure that made sense?

Because it gave them the justification to finally do something with the River Country area. They didn’t want to shell out the money to tear it down and not do anything with the property. But, if they need to clear the area for a resort…

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

I don’t really see it as an eyesore, the worst spot is from pioneer hall. I would hope they come up with something to block it like trees.

I don't think trees are sufficient for this. They've literally taken the Wilderness out of Fort Wilderness by building an out-of-place Fortress.

 

[James Alucobond]

It isn't the look, it is the location.

It's the look too (exterior, at least).

 

[FigmentFan82]

So hotel towers on a beach in Oahu are similar to a hotel tower around Seven Seas Lagoon? That's... something.

Thank you for clearly not reading all of my post. My point was to say that for as much as it’s looking very rough at the moment, it may come together with the last bit of details at the very end. I’m waiting to hold out judgment until we see what the final product looks like.

 

[Bocabear]

there are no trees or plant material that will ever be able to mask that building from Fort Wilderness...it is forever. there now....A gigantic modern hotel plunked down right next to the existing resort....and extremely visible... forever.... no hiding it....and the hotel will not be dressed to match Fort Wilderness.... it just is what it is now.....

 

[Bocabear]

Thank you for clearly not reading all of my post. My point was to say that for as much as it’s looking very rough at the moment, it may come together with the last bit of details at the very end. I’m waiting to hold out judgment until we see what the final product looks like.

that is what everyone said about the PolyDay Inn tower.....

 

[HauntedPirate]

Thank you for clearly not reading all of my post. My point was to say that for as much as it’s looking very rough at the moment, it may come together with the last bit of details at the very end. I’m waiting to hold out judgment until we see what the final product looks like.

I've seen renderings of what the final product will look like. You can wait but... it's not going to change what it ultimately looks like.

 

[FigmentFan82]

And the poly tower is honestly not that far removed from what the Aulani towers look like. I just google imaged some pictures of them and they bare a decent amount of similarity. Yes the ones in Hawaii have a bit more steaming all around, but they’re not that egregiously off from one another.

 

[FigmentFan82]

I've seen renderings of what the final product will look like. You can wait but... it's not going to change what it ultimately looks like.

I’m not saying anything is going to drastically change at the end, I simply know that once the final touches are on, it will have a different look than an in construction building which everyone is criticizing at the moment, and it might look somewhat decent in the end, I don’t know at all, but we’ll have to wait and see

 

[HauntedPirate]

I’m not saying anything is going to drastically change at the end, I simply know that once the final touches are on, it will have a different look than an in construction building which everyone is criticizing at the moment, and it might look somewhat decent in the end, I don’t know at all, but we’ll have to wait and see

It's still going to be 9-story buildings. The exterior is still going to be (fairly) compared with chain hotel exteriors. It will look nicer, but no one thinks what it looks like now is what it will look like when it opens. The interior is more the unknown than the exterior.

 

[Bocabear]

I am sure the interior will have a classic Marriott corporate hotel vibe with some Disney art here and there and a mouse icon woven into the carpet.... It will not look anything like Fort Wilderness... it will not have the dramatic and appropriate interior of the Wilderness lodge.... it will look like the Marriott Lake Tahoe Resort... Modern and nice, but not thematic and not matching anything else...

 

[JD80]

I believe this is the concept art they put out:

 

[peter11435]

I am sure the interior will have a classic Marriott corporate hotel vibe with some Disney art here and there and a mouse icon woven into the carpet.... It will not look anything like Fort Wilderness... it will not have the dramatic and appropriate interior of the Wilderness lodge.... it will look like the Marriott Lake Tahoe Resort... Modern and nice, but not thematic and not matching anything else...

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It shouldn’t look anything like Fort Wideness or Wilderness Lodge. It should look like Lakeshore Lodge. It should have its own style and aesthetic and be judged on its own merits.

It shouldn’t look anymore like Wilderness Lodge than the Grand Floridian looks like the Polynesian