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News Disney Lakeshore Lodge (Project 89 - Development near Fort Wilderness)

FiestaFunKid

Well-Known Member
I think when it’s all set and done, it’ll look just fine from whatever views from other resorts people see it. A very curious about the A-frame cabins, they look like a nice addition.
I think the problem is that Disney has become ok with 'just fine', as any traditional hotel chain would if they were tasked with this project.

They used to separate themselves with creativity and immersiveness that brought us the Contemporary, Poly, GF, WL, AK, BW, etc. Eisner used to hire innovative architects and seek out new ideas - he even tried to build a crazy Mickey shaped hotel at one point
 

dseepersad

Member
Nope. You aren’t misreading. It goes all the way to the dock. The other side of the beach is still there. But, yeah….you didn’t misread. 🥺
The funny thing is, they renamed that other side “Clemintine’s Beach” and thought we wouldn’t notice.
IMG_4299.jpeg
 

TimbertopNJ

New Member
Has anyone seen the layout of the new rooms (cash, DVC, cabins, + treehouses)? I'm a bit new to the page, and there's 191 pages of content, lol. Would love to see any layouts, if they're available, aside from whatever concept art got released from the "Reflection Days".
 

FigmentFan82

Well-Known Member
I think the problem is that Disney has become ok with 'just fine', as any traditional hotel chain would if they were tasked with this project.

They used to separate themselves with creativity and immersiveness that brought us the Contemporary, Poly, GF, WL, AK, BW, etc. Eisner used to hire innovative architects and seek out new ideas - he even tried to build a crazy Mickey shaped hotel at one point
I’m more meant that it’ll be fine as in. It’s not all doom and gloom and should turn out to look very nice in the end result, but yes, I also agree that the standard of theme used to be much much higher. If Josh is to be believed that he likes to take big risks, maybe we will see another highly themed hotel sometime in the future, but who knows
 

Doberge

True Bayou Magic
I'm expecting Riviera-like room floor plans, and that'd be positive if happening.

While I'm hopeful for a mashup of best parts of Riviera and Poly Tower floor plans, I acknowledge that room footprints were done years ago so we need to consider where they were in design a few years ago. We can already see how the exterior wall pushes either balconies or past, very similar to Riviera one and two bedroom living areas extending past adjacent bedrooms with shared balconies. The added square footage in the Riviera living areas is a great feature. I'd similarly expect another galley kitchen, and also the extra bathroom off loving areas (feedback on extra bathroom is a consistent positive at every resort it's appeared).

Studios and hotel rooms I think would be great to be designed like Poly tower rooms that moved the kitchenette to shared bathroom wall (and leaving more room on TV wall for seating, etc) but the old Reflections concept art showed the kitchenette on TV, and I doubt Disney paid to completely replan plumbing, etc. That said, one of the casualties in the smaller poly tower studios with kitchenette layout was the split bathroom, so hopefully that returns.
 

nickys

Premium Member
Has anyone seen the layout of the new rooms (cash, DVC, cabins, + treehouses)? I'm a bit new to the page, and there's 191 pages of content, lol. Would love to see any layouts, if they're available, aside from whatever concept art got released from the "Reflection Days".
Search for posts in this thread by @HauntedPirate . He has posted lots about the amenities, layout, room breakdowns etc.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
I have been summoned. 😎

Has anyone seen the layout of the new rooms (cash, DVC, cabins, + treehouses)? I'm a bit new to the page, and there's 191 pages of content, lol. Would love to see any layouts, if they're available, aside from whatever concept art got released from the "Reflection Days".

Give me a bit of time to dig up some info. @lentesta posted a virtual fly-through of an A-frame mockup a while back. I can try to get some layouts but from what I recall, these are basically regular cash and DVC room layouts (except the two cash suites).
 

TimbertopNJ

New Member
Give me a bit of time to dig up some info. @lentesta posted a virtual fly-through of an A-frame mockup a while back. I can try to get some layouts but from what I recall, these are basically regular cash and DVC room layouts (except the two cash suites).
I appreciate you checking. Not a big deal if there weren't any useful layouts available. I'm a nerd who likes an interesting floorplan, so I figured I'd ask. Thanks!
 

lentesta

Premium Member
I appreciate you checking. Not a big deal if there weren't any useful layouts available. I'm a nerd who likes an interesting floorplan, so I figured I'd ask. Thanks!

List of abbreviations with the rooms:
  • -A = ADA Accessible
  • -D = Dedicated (i.e., not a lock-off)
  • -FL = Florida's version of ADA Accessible
  • -H = Hearing-impaired communication features
  • K = king bed
  • -L = ???
  • -LO = Lock-off
  • QQ = Two queen beds
  • -S = shower
  • -T = tub

A two-queens room with tub (QQ-T):

QQ-T.png


The king-bed rooms look the same.

A two-queens room with shower (QQ):

QQ.png


A DVC studio:

STUDIO.png


A 1-Bedroom:

1BED-LO.png


An Accessible 2-Bedroom:

2BED-A.png


A Grand Villa (accessible) with Tub:

GRAND-VILLA.png


Presidential Suite:

PRESIDENTIAL.png


The Vice-Presidential Suite is covered in watermarks - sorry.

I'm confident that the boxed numbers in each diagram, like [8066], are the room numbers. So we know all the room numbers and their bed/tub/villa/ADA configurations.

I don't know if Disney's published the "view types" yet, like Resort/Water etc. If so we could make reasonable guesses about which room has which view type.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
List of abbreviations with the rooms:
  • -A = ADA Accessible
  • -D = Dedicated (i.e., not a lock-off)
  • -FL = Florida's version of ADA Accessible
  • -H = Hearing-impaired communication features
  • K = king bed
  • -L = ???
  • -LO = Lock-off
  • QQ = Two queen beds
  • -S = shower
  • -T = tub

A two-queens room with tub (QQ-T):

View attachment 906845

The king-bed rooms look the same.

A two-queens room with shower (QQ):

View attachment 906846

A DVC studio:

View attachment 906847

A 1-Bedroom:

View attachment 906848

An Accessible 2-Bedroom:

View attachment 906849

A Grand Villa (accessible) with Tub:

View attachment 906850

Presidential Suite:

View attachment 906852

The Vice-Presidential Suite is covered in watermarks - sorry.

I'm confident that the boxed numbers in each diagram, like [8066], are the room numbers. So we know all the room numbers and their bed/tub/villa/ADA configurations.

I don't know if Disney's published the "view types" yet, like Resort/Water etc. If so we could make reasonable guesses about which room has which view type.
I believe Lenai?
 

TimbertopNJ

New Member
List of abbreviations with the rooms:
  • -A = ADA Accessible
  • -D = Dedicated (i.e., not a lock-off)
  • -FL = Florida's version of ADA Accessible
  • -H = Hearing-impaired communication features
  • K = king bed
  • -L = ???
  • -LO = Lock-off
  • QQ = Two queen beds
  • -S = shower
  • -T = tub

A two-queens room with tub (QQ-T):

View attachment 906845

The king-bed rooms look the same.

A two-queens room with shower (QQ):

View attachment 906846

A DVC studio:

View attachment 906847

A 1-Bedroom:

View attachment 906848

An Accessible 2-Bedroom:

View attachment 906849

A Grand Villa (accessible) with Tub:

View attachment 906850

Presidential Suite:

View attachment 906852

The Vice-Presidential Suite is covered in watermarks - sorry.

I'm confident that the boxed numbers in each diagram, like [8066], are the room numbers. So we know all the room numbers and their bed/tub/villa/ADA configurations.

I don't know if Disney's published the "view types" yet, like Resort/Water etc. If so we could make reasonable guesses about which room has which view type.
This is exactly what I was looking for, thanks so much!
 

TimbertopNJ

New Member
A 1-Bedroom:

View attachment 906848

An Accessible 2-Bedroom:

View attachment 906849

Interesting that DVC is using the split bathroom design found in most DVC resorts. I feel like alot of people applauded DVC for using 2-full bathrooms in the Poly Tower (a la BLT & Kidani), so assumed that feature would carry forward.

Another interesting DVC decision is if they decide on closets (RIV, VGF) or wardrobes (CCV, PIT) in the primary bedroom. Looks like they're going with the latter in LSL.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
List of abbreviations with the rooms:
  • -A = ADA Accessible
  • -D = Dedicated (i.e., not a lock-off)
  • -FL = Florida's version of ADA Accessible
  • -H = Hearing-impaired communication features
  • K = king bed
  • -L = ???
  • -LO = Lock-off
  • QQ = Two queen beds
  • -S = shower
  • -T = tub

A two-queens room with tub (QQ-T):

View attachment 906845

The king-bed rooms look the same.

A two-queens room with shower (QQ):

View attachment 906846

A DVC studio:

View attachment 906847

A 1-Bedroom:

View attachment 906848

An Accessible 2-Bedroom:

View attachment 906849

A Grand Villa (accessible) with Tub:

View attachment 906850

Presidential Suite:

View attachment 906852

The Vice-Presidential Suite is covered in watermarks - sorry.

I'm confident that the boxed numbers in each diagram, like [8066], are the room numbers. So we know all the room numbers and their bed/tub/villa/ADA configurations.

I don't know if Disney's published the "view types" yet, like Resort/Water etc. If so we could make reasonable guesses about which room has which view type.
Thanks for posting these!! They are probably cleaner images of the rooms than I have. At some point I’ll check the plans I have to see if the VP suite is any cleaner.

Also - I think you are correct on the numbering. That should be set before construction began.
 

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