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Chef Mickey

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Tesla is a garbage company and look at it's meme stock. They lost something like 40% profit but the stock goes up. Wall Street is dumb.
Tough to call people with their own money invested names. It's more likely you don't understand why they are buying. Who is more likely dumb, people with their own money invested earning a return or you sitting there with 0 shares calling them dumb?
 
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flynnibus

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Verizon, Spectrum, Xfinity, DIRECTV, even Comcast, offer D+ bundles beyond promotion periods either free or at substantially discounted prices.

Verizon offers a promo - then you can get a a la carte bundle - not free or paid for
xfinity offers the bundle through their billing - not free or paid for
DirectTV offers disney in their paid tiers - so bundled
Comcast == xfinity

So spectrum and DTV offer disney plus as a perk in their paid offers. I still don't think this suggests the majority of D+ customers are somehow not paying for it directly. 3rd party billing isn't a deciding factor here.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Verizon offers a promo - then you can get a a la carte bundle - not free or paid for
xfinity offers the bundle through their billing - not free or paid for
DirectTV offers disney in their paid tiers - so bundled
Comcast == xfinity

So spectrum and DTV offer disney plus as a perk in their paid offers. I still don't think this suggests the majority of D+ customers are somehow not paying for it directly. 3rd party billing isn't a deciding factor here.
It should also be noted that someone still pays for the sub even if its the offered by another provider as part of a promotion, so whether its the consumer or another provider (at a wholesale price) all subs are still a paid for by somone.

No such thing as a free lunch at Disney, the bill always gets paid to the Mouse.
 

monothingie

Plusser of Turbocharged Activations!
Premium Member
Verizon offers a promo - then you can get a a la carte bundle - not free or paid for
For Verizon Wireless If you have more than the base 5G package, you get the choice of a Disney+ plus bundle free.
For Verizon Home Internet Depending on your tier you can get it bundled for free.
For All Verizon plans you can get the Disney+ Bundle for discount versus retail.
xfinity offers the bundle through their billing - not free or paid for
Offers D+ bundles at discount versus retail.
DirectTV offers disney in their paid tiers - so bundled

Comcast == xfinity
Meant to say Optimum (Altice) Offers D+ bundles at discount versus retail.
So spectrum and DTV offer disney plus as a perk in their paid offers. I still don't think this suggests the majority of D+ customers are somehow not paying for it directly. 3rd party billing isn't a deciding factor here.
 

SamusAranX

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I am surprised D+ hasn’t cracked down on account password sharing like Netflix.

Currently 6 of us share the same account. I don’t think all 6 of us can login at the same time, but it’s nowhere near as strict as Netflix.

A lot of people thought Netflix would suffer for that decision (social media opinions were overwhelmingly negative) but they’re trucking along. Only a matter of time before Disney does, as that is definitely missed revenue.

That said, there’s not much compelling original content on D+ so I wouldn’t be signing up if that happened today
 

Dranth

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Tough to call people with their own money invested names. It's more likely you don't understand why they are buying. Who is more likely dumb, people with their own money invested earning a return or you sitting there with 0 shares calling them dumb?
So, because they don't invest in a super speculative, borderline meme stock, run by literally the most political CEO in modern US history who p-ed off more than half the country and much of the world, they don't invest in anything? That seems like a stretch or did I miss them saying they don't invest at all?

Also, you keep claiming that the stock price is a direct measurement of how good management is while ignoring that outside of Netflix, nearly all entertainment companies have under-performed the market and even Netflix has taken a step back of late. If all the companies in a sector are taking a hit, shouldn't your first thought be it is a sector problem and THEN see how they compare to each other to determine who is managing it better.

For example, the closest thing we have to a direct comparison to Disney is Comcast. They both have dying linear, they both have a streaming service, movie studios, sports licenses to deal with, and theme parks. Since Iger came back, Disney stock is out preforming Comcast so according to the presented logic that the market is the great indicator of CEO prowess, Iger > Roberts. Even if someone wanted to use the ever popular 10-year comparison that ignores a CEO change over where the stock ended up dropping over half its value in a little over a year, they BOTH still severely underperformed the overall market.

None of this is a defense of Iger. He has made a bunch of mistakes in my mind, and I am more than ready to see him go, but I bristle at this notion that stock price = CEO quality because it is a terrible measurement much of the time, especially from a fan point of view.
 

Chef Mickey

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So, because they don't invest in a super speculative, borderline meme stock, run by literally the most political CEO in modern US history who p-ed off more than half the country and much of the world, they don't invest in anything? That seems like a stretch or did I miss them saying they don't invest at all?

Also, you keep claiming that the stock price is a direct measurement of how good management is while ignoring that outside of Netflix, nearly all entertainment companies have under-performed the market and even Netflix has taken a step back of late. If all the companies in a sector are taking a hit, shouldn't your first thought be it is a sector problem and THEN see how they compare to each other to determine who is managing it better.

For example, the closest thing we have to a direct comparison to Disney is Comcast. They both have dying linear, they both have a streaming service, movie studios, sports licenses to deal with, and theme parks. Since Iger came back, Disney stock is out preforming Comcast so according to the presented logic that the market is the great indicator of CEO prowess, Iger > Roberts. Even if someone wanted to use the ever popular 10-year comparison that ignores a CEO change over where the stock ended up dropping over half its value in a little over a year, they BOTH still severely underperformed the overall market.

None of this is a defense of Iger. He has made a bunch of mistakes in my mind, and I am more than ready to see him go, but I bristle at this notion that stock price = CEO quality because it is a terrible measurement much of the time, especially from a fan point of view.
Classic mistake. Comcast and Disney aren’t the same, mostly bc Comcast is an infrastructure (hated) company and Disney is IP/entertainment.

Comcast acquires all its content and Disney supposedly creates it. I think something like half of Comcast revenue is literally as an internet provider.

Disney and Comcast shouldn’t trade remotely the same for that simple reason.

Comcast is also poorly managed though.
 

Stripes

Premium Member
That’s true. But as I said, they aren’t really known for storytelling like Disney but fundamentally, they provide internet.
The connectivity part of their business is roughly 60% of revenue and rapidly declining. NBCUniversal (which is in every major business area Disney is in) is about 40% of revenue. Universal’s storytelling legacy may not be as rich as Disney’s but it is something they are known for.
 

Dranth

Well-Known Member
Classic mistake. Comcast and Disney aren’t the same, mostly bc Comcast is an infrastructure (hated) company and Disney is IP/entertainment.

Comcast acquires all its content and Disney supposedly creates it. I think something like half of Comcast revenue is literally as an internet provider.

Disney and Comcast shouldn’t trade remotely the same for that simple reason.

Comcast is also poorly managed though.
Not a mistake, they are the closest in terms of offerings and if you took out the utility side of Comcast, it would be a blood bath. Which is part of my overall point. Investors are not very interested in studios, theme parks, amusement parks, streaming and TV currently. Disney sits squarely in ALL of those and is punished for it. They get some reprieve from the cruise business, but name another offering that isn't currently on the outs with the market as a whole?

Other studios are in the dumps, other TV carriers are punished, no park operators I am aware of are beating the market so either they are all run by morons or the market is just not interested in general.
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
Not a mistake, they are the closest in terms of offerings and if you took out the utility side of Comcast, it would be a blood bath. Which is part of my overall point. Investors are not very interested in studios, theme parks, amusement parks, streaming and TV currently. Disney sits squarely in ALL of those and is punished for it. They get some reprieve from the cruise business, but name another offering that isn't currently on the outs with the market as a whole?

Other studios are in the dumps, other TV carriers are punished, no park operators I am aware of are beating the market so either they are all run by morons or the market is just not interested in general.
Closest, but not at all the same. Again, most revenue for Comcast is an internet provider which trades at 5 times earnings.
 

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