jah4955
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I'm a Luddite ....I fixed it...thank you for making me aware.The link you posted is about Disneyland Paris. It has nothing to do with Boardwalk.
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News Disney's BoardWalk Inn to Undergo Refurbishment Through 2026
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UNCgolf
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I think some of the QS restaurants at Disney Springs are as good as if not better than most of the TS restaurants at the parks and resorts. Last time we were there we ate a late QS dinner at DS most nights.
JMcMahonEsq
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There are what, at least 50+ different dinning options at Disney Springs? If you can't find something to eat with all the choices available there I think its more likely your issue than theirs.
jah4955
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Thank you for judging me.
Again.
Oh please forgive me for not explicitly saying that I haven't been to every single eatery there, but that where I have eaten thus far was lackluster.
I write most of my posts consciously trying not to be pounced on by you and a few others. I failed there too.
My point was to talk about Boardwalk Parking, not Disney Springs.
jah4955
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And if you respond to judge me further, just to save you the trouble, I won't be able to read it.
JMcMahonEsq
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If you don't want to be judged, make better posts. Don't complain/put down a place with so many food offering, and then when called on it, fall back on Oh well i haven't really eaten at a lot of them
TrainsOfDisney
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You doing ok? Enjoying Disney resorts vs. Disney Springs makes sense to me. So much at springs is 3rd party and can be a bit inconsistent. I haven’t been impressed with sit down choices at springs myself. Have you?
JMcMahonEsq
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Oh I am not making any judgements on resort vs Springs Dining. I think my main point is someone complaining generally that they can't find anything they like at a location with 50/60 choices, including so many nation brand/popular restaurants. Basically that place has a cross section of restaurants available throughout the US, if you can't find something there to eat, you are not finding anything to eat in any city in the US.
As for sit down in Springs, STK i think is good, though i like the one in NYC a bit better. Morimoto I think is good, though you have to like that type of food. Hell I like T-Rex or Rainforest as well as they pretty much of something that even the pickiest of kids will eat. My main cripe with the past post is that there is just so many offerings, anyone can find something there to eat, unless you are just trying to find problems.
surfsupdon
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When BoardWalk first opened, the Boardwalk was full of venues, meaning that each space was open and accessible.
Since then, Disney has added Beach Club Villas and the Swan Reserve, plus direct access via the Skyliner from Riviera, Caribbean Beach, Pop, and Art. Yet so many store fronts sit empty. That is the worst thought. More people have accessibility by far yet so many storefronts sit closed.
Since then, Disney has added Beach Club Villas and the Swan Reserve, plus direct access via the Skyliner from Riviera, Caribbean Beach, Pop, and Art. Yet so many store fronts sit empty. That is the worst thought. More people have accessibility by far yet so many storefronts sit closed.
KDM31091
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The Boardwalk lacks a true QS space, and a casual dining space. No one is going to Flying Fish or Cake Bake more than once a trip. The only semi approachable price point location is Trattoria which has a small menu overall. They need more variety and more casual options. I've said it a million times but Cake Bake would have made a thousand times more sense in the Grand Floridian. I think it would fill out the BW greatly to have more casual options with indoor seating. Eating a pizza in the blazing sun is not ideal.
It is really sad to see the Boardwalk just rotting away at this point. I guess Disney is stubbornly refusing to lower the rent for these spaces despite vacancy after vacancy. There's also the issue of access. You cannot, most of the time, just park at the BW to enjoy the BW itself. You need a dining reservation. You can't park to just go get a slice of pizza or go to the Abracadabar. This is a problem. It cuts off a revenue stream, IMO, especially from locals. Yes, you can park at HS and walk over. I'm just saying it's not especially convenient to go to the BW just to go explore. My feelings are around 5pm or so the BW should have parking for those who just want to check it out (they usually stop charging for the parking in the evening at the parks anyway so it would eliminate the issue of people using it as a loophole to not pay for parking).
It is really sad to see the Boardwalk just rotting away at this point. I guess Disney is stubbornly refusing to lower the rent for these spaces despite vacancy after vacancy. There's also the issue of access. You cannot, most of the time, just park at the BW to enjoy the BW itself. You need a dining reservation. You can't park to just go get a slice of pizza or go to the Abracadabar. This is a problem. It cuts off a revenue stream, IMO, especially from locals. Yes, you can park at HS and walk over. I'm just saying it's not especially convenient to go to the BW just to go explore. My feelings are around 5pm or so the BW should have parking for those who just want to check it out (they usually stop charging for the parking in the evening at the parks anyway so it would eliminate the issue of people using it as a loophole to not pay for parking).
WDW long ago stopped advertising BWI's boardwalk as a general pop destination.
The actual boardwalk is a feature of the deluxe resort as mach as the much-vaunted Storm Along Bay is a deluxe feature of Yacht. If you're not a guest of Yacht, you're not welcome to their mini-water park.
BWI takes most of the features and amenities you would find inside a deluxe resort and places them outward-facing toward a boardwalk. If you're not a guest of BWI, then the boardwalk and its stores, food service, and entertainment is not for you, with the exception of the table service restaurants. All table service restaurants welcome and want 'outsiders.' This is why you can park at BWI if you have a TS reservation.
When the boardwalk was once advertised as a gen-pop destination, they had issues with late-night noisy and drunk outsiders hanging out loudly on the boardwalk keeping their paying guests from getting some sleep. And so, they stopped that.
The boardwalk's 'problem' is that is an open-air throughfare for all the Crescent Lake resorts, and for those visiting DHS and Epcot who can walk there or take the boats or Skyway... and therefore, it also has easy access from CBR and Pop and ArtofA guests. This still gives some guests the feel that the boardwalk is a WDW-wide destination when BWI doesn't want it to be that anymore.
Anyhoo, this is just to point out that BWI is happy to turn away anyone from their parking lot who doesn't have a reservation for their restaurants in order to keep the boardwalk from being a hangout for outsiders. Additionally, it deters people from parking there as free parking to EPCOT or DHS, which WDW, as a whole, clamps down on, especially for the Seven Seas resorts for the same reason.
And any complaints about "I just want to hang out at the boardwalk" is met with an implicit "well, if you're not a guest of BWI... we'd prefer you didn't... we exist for our paying guests."
TrainsOfDisney
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This is not an accurate statement.
nickys
Premium Member
Disney no longer actively encourages guests to visit the Boardwalk as a source of entertainment. They don’t advertise it as somewhere to head to of an evening.
If they wanted to encourage visitors from outside the Crescent. Lake resorts, they wouldn’t have terminated the leases and left the spaces empty this long. And they would have employed more entertainment acts to perform there.
Of course if you use Disney transportation to get there then they are happy for you to do so. And ditto if you stroll around after a meal. Just like at any other resort.
TrainsOfDisney
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Sure. They don’t actively encourage guests to visit Port Orleans for yeehaw Bob either - but it’s open and available for those of us who’d like to.
nickys
Premium Member
At one time though Disney did actively encourage guests to visit the Boardwalk. It was advertised as a night-time destination.
surfsupdon
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Yes they did. There was a guide. Food & More Along the Shore.
MDE app still lists Boardwalk under Park Hours daily. It is slightly advertised in that regard.
TrainsOfDisney
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True! Parks, water parks, Disney Springs, ESPN and Boardwalk are the only things listed.
UNCgolf
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I'm surprised ESPN is on there. It used to be advertised as a destination for regular guests, but I don't think there's anything there for people to do now if they aren't attending an event.