MK Piston Peak and Villains Land Construction Thread

[lentesta]

A model isn’t a specific design milestone and their use has been pushed back in the design process.

Not knowing the show scenes would mean the project was approved without completing concept design, which is not good.

Ah, that's interesting. Thanks!

I took the tone of their presentation, along with the specific comments about not knowing the show scenes, to be "we're really early in this project".

They're presenting again in a couple of weeks, so I'll post an update if anything new.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Do we have confirmation that the track isn’t moving? I agree this as a train station would be nice, but current track layout goes through the other large new building site. Would this have a window look like people mover does at times??

I believe they yanked the track out back there. It could go back wherever...

 

[lazyboy97o]

Ah, that's interesting. Thanks!

I took the tone of their presentation, along with the specific comments about not knowing the show scenes, to be "we're really early in this project".

They're presenting again in a couple of weeks, so I'll post an update if anything new.

Approving a project before full concept design work has and does happen. It’s just very risky. But it’s also very much in line with how Walt Disney Imagineering has long liked to present itself, especially given how projects can change even late in the process.

 

[Purduevian]

Here is my assumption on all the budlings:
Cyan: Ride path
Magenta: Queue Line
Red: Exit path
Gray: Guest Walkways

 

[James Alucobond]

Here is my assumption on all the budlings:
Cyan: Ride path
Magenta: Queue Line
Red: Exit path
Gray: Guest Walkways
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That's a lot of coaster spaghetti spilling out into space I'm going to assume they'll want some of for M&Gs, snack stands, shopping, etc.

 

[Coaster Lover]

Wouldn't the reverse make more sense? The Encanto show building is not yet complete, whereas Dinosaur is about to close and is staying in place. Logically, retrofitting that building and the restaurants will take less time than what remains for Encanto, plus the guest flow of having only Encanto blocked off is very similar to what we were already living with after Primeval Whirl was demolished.

I think everyone looks at the 18 months turnover from Splash Mountain to Tiana's Bayou Adventure as a benchmark for how long it may take for the Indy transformation. Personally, I feel like a lot more is required for the Indy transformation (the entire look of the outside of the attraction and the queue needs to be radically changed) and am expecting it to take closer to 20-24 months (so late 2027?), but then again, maybe a lot more work can be pre-fabricated off site to speed things up? Not sure. Either way, would seem too much to ask to expect anything before Summer 2027 for Indy.

 

[Purduevian]

That's a lot of coaster spaghetti spilling out into space I'm going to assume they'll want some of for M&Gs, snack stands, shopping, etc.

I assume that's what the big long building on the left side is for

 

[James Alucobond]

I assume that's what the big long building on the left side is for

For most of the core facilities, sure. But there will almost certainly be other things arrayed within so large a space. I also don't think you'd want to ram the coaster right up against the Haunted Mansion show building where you'll break the illusion by looking down on top of the warehouse.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

I know! Let's take some of the dinosaurs from Dinosaur and put them in a new Primeval World diorama hosted by Dr. Seeker! Ok, maybe no Dr. Seeker, but having the giant Carnotaurus animatronic in there would be pretty cool.

 

[mattpeto]

Not my picture and unfortunately I don't know the source (sorry!), but this still looks possible:

Maybe the building next HM is just Shops.

 

[DrStarlander]

Here is my assumption on all the budlings:
Cyan: Ride path
Magenta: Queue Line
Red: Exit path
Gray: Guest Walkways
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This is my interpretation of Villains Land, using Hogsmeade at scale. That's what I see when looking at the wedge shaped gap between the buildings, a "high street" approach. The large open area to me is too large of a plaza to be a town square, which is why I think it may be for outdoor ride area. An indoor/outdoor boat ride was indicated in DCA's Avatar ride, as an example. If the long skinny building isn't a tunnel, maybe it's for parade float storage. I can't think of a utility otherwise.

 

[ToTBellHop]

This is my interpretation of Villains Land, using Hogsmeade at scale. That's what I see when looking at the wedge shaped gap between the buildings, a "high street" approach. The large open area to me is too large of a plaza to be a town square, which is why I think it may be for outdoor ride area. An indoor/outdoor boat ride was indicated in DCA's Avatar ride, as an example. If the long skinny building isn't a tunnel, maybe it's for parade float storage. I can't think of a utility otherwise.
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I’d be shocked to see an indoor/outdoor boat ride in Orlando. Given that the coaster is entirely (mostly?) outdoors and 1 or both Cars rides are outdoors, I fully expect the 4th ride to be entirely indoors. They won’t want EVERY new ride closed during thunderstorms.

 

[BrianLo]

I would not entirely ignore this fireworks oriented facade. Having a big space that they can convince even 10-15% of guests to go to would be a big benefit operationally.

 

[DrStarlander]

I’d be shocked to see an indoor/outdoor boat ride in Orlando. Given that the coaster is entirely (mostly?) outdoors and 1 or both Cars rides are outdoors, I fully expect the 4th ride to be entirely indoors. They won’t want EVERY new ride closed during thunderstorms.

Yeah, I agree. But I can't figure out what the 3 acre area is for that has no structures in it, if not an outdoor attraction and I'm having a hard time imagining the coaster is going there. Maybe something like Voyage to the Crystal Grotto at Shanghai Disneyland with covered boats for weather?

Or a forest of meandering paths past meet-and-greet gazebos?

 

[DrStarlander]

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I would not entirely ignore this fireworks oriented facade. Having a big space that they can convince even 10-15% of guests to go to would be a big benefit operationally.

Though if it's a dead-end with bottle-neck path, that sounds rough.

 

[deWild]

Curious about the structure next to HM. What could this be?

 

[BrianLo]

Though if it's a dead-end with bottle-neck path, that sounds rough.

I suspect there will be two entrances. More of a big figure 8 with Piston Peak.

 

[BrianLo]

One other speculation, might I suggest that’s a coaster launch tunnel…

 

[James Alucobond]

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I would not entirely ignore this fireworks oriented facade. Having a big space that they can convince even 10-15% of guests to go to would be a big benefit operationally.

I'm definitely guessing they'll have a restaurant with sizeable patio overlapping that zone to promote firework dining packages, assuming they put in the effort to create an alternate viewing angle. The Tomorrowland Terrace patio is currently a super poor viewing location and vastly inferior to the gated gardens.

 

[Marc Davis Fan]

Taking this outline at face value is somewhat disappointing to me.

The use of space does not seem optimized—I would have thought the dark ride could have been tucked further behind Haunted Mansion/Small World…

How certain are we about what the black shapes marked as "facilities" indicate?

Obviously, it can't be that those are the only buildings in the land, because otherwise - as @ToTBellHop noted - it would mean a lot of empty space.

Could it mean facilities that require a certain type of drainage or connection, as @SomeInternetGuy suggested? Maybe @danlb_2000 has thoughts?

I'm holding out hope that the upper-right shape isn't the entire show building for the land's signature dark ride...