DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[gorillaball]

When did they move the Monsters Inc construction zone over to EPCOT?

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Thank you for the mud slab explanations, I’ve never seen anything like this on the west coast and was really confused trying to figure out why they were burying their foundation.

Is this a Florida soil/water table thing or is this pretty common around the world? First time I’ve ever seen it.

 

[dmc493]

Thank you for the mud slab explanations, I’ve never seen anything like this on the west coast and was really confused trying to figure out why they were burying their foundation.

Is this a Florida soil/water table thing or is this pretty common around the world? First time I’ve ever seen it.

I’ve seen it used mainly when we have terrible soil conditions - muddy, huge amount of groundwater etc. that persists even when we run several dewatering pumps. Allows you to cleanly install rebar, layout foundations, etc without dealing with a complete mess, risking things sinking, etc. They’re really not that crazy expensive, super thin slab just to give clean working surfaces.

Situation here? Not sure, but they solve several different problems

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

When the counter to "Guardians is one of the most popular rides at the whole resort" is "Well, people are stupid", I just don't tend to give their opinion the time of day.

1. It’s in the wrong place
2, they let the previous attraction rot for a decade plus (how ole walt drew it up)
3. Its using an ip that they really don’t have the rights to
“Get an Uber up I-4 for Spiderman!”

You can like the ride just fine. But That changes nothing of the reality of what I just told you. Two things can be true. It’s a reach and is miscast.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’ve seen it used mainly when we have terrible soil conditions - muddy, huge amount of groundwater etc. that persists even when we run several dewatering pumps. Allows you to cleanly install rebar, layout foundations, etc without dealing with a complete mess, risking things sinking, etc. They’re really not that crazy expensive, super thin slab just to give clean working surfaces.

Situation here? Not sure, but they solve several different problems

That totally scans…high water table…sinkhole potential…etc

 

[peter11435]

1. It’s in the wrong place
2, they let the previous albumin rot for a decade plus (how ole walt drew it up)
3. Its using an ip that they really don’t have the rights to
“Get an Uber up I-4 for Soiderman!”

You can like the ride just fine. But That changes nothing of the reality of what I just told you. Two things can be true. It’s a reach and is miscast.

Two out of three isn’t bad

 

[WorldExplorer]

“Get an Uber up I-4 for Spiderman!”

Please tell me this isn't an actual line in the ride?

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

1. It’s in the wrong place
2, they let the previous attraction rot for a decade plus (how ole walt drew it up)
3. Its using an ip that they really don’t have the rights to
“Get an Uber up I-4 for Soiderman!”

You can like the ride just fine. But That changes nothing of the reality of what I just told you. Two things can be true. It’s a reach and is miscast.

Wdym they don't have the rights to Guardians?

 

[MrPromey]

The real problem is that Disney needed all those sponsors when Epcot first opened but today Disney is a multi-billion dollar profit company. They shouldn't allow a, done on the cheap, attraction in the park. They just don't care! They have or had a tremendous pavilion that they are letting rot away instead of making it a respectable draw thus not needing anyone to sponsor it. They needed to upgrade what they had as far as the ride. (refresh is more what I'm thinking. because I want the beginning of the ride to continue the way it originally was just technologically improved}. Put something 4D back in the theater. If they can't think of anything they shouldn't be calling themselves imagineers. Yea, I know accounts are calling all the shots now and they are thinking that they are to big to fail. Ask them what happened to Kodak due to bad decisions.

My guess would be that they feel they have enough of a draw right now with new stuff from Guardians, Rat and the redo of Test Track for that park.

... and that fantabulous newish spine.

Something will obviously be done some day with the Imagination pavilion when they feel they need something new for the park but I don't think current management particularly cares that the existing attraction sucks or that there is a lot of wasted space there. Who knows if that eventual replacement will even have anything at all to do with the overall general theme of what came before.

That might even be part of the delay. If they're going to someday pull a Guardians, what do they do about Figment who's a park icon, the ambassador of the Festival of the Arts and a merch juggernaut?

Hollywood Studios has been in the hole for attraction capacity for a long time. Rise may still be pulling people there but the only thing preventing it from being a half-day park is wait times, especially with all the new stuff being considerably shorter than everything these attractions have replaced. I mean look at the poorly covered outdoor queue for Slinky Dog Dash. They clearly didn't anticipate people consistently waiting in lines as long as are common for that one.

The expansion here makes sense from that perspective if their internal tracking shows either that they aren't getting as many single-park tickets sold there as they want or that people are hopping after they're doing the two or three things they want to do there.

They'll get more people filling out BATB and Mermaid for instance, if people commit to spending a full day there and that extra time means more food, beverage and merch sales in this park, too.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Wdym they don't have the rights to Guardians?

It’s a very minuscule part of the brand

And why it doesn’t make sense. California is the perfect spot…not Orlando

This is just an example of bobs collapsing “label” theory

Just throw a label on and the drones will feast

Except it it’s not…and you can’t make a dime on a marvel movie these days.

It’s also EXACTLY why ole Kathy is “retired” on one days notice

The strategy is a loser

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Please tell me this isn't an actual line in the ride?

…no…

But if you go to IOA and buy a drink cup with wolverines head on it…and bob gets $0.50 for it…I bet he’d consider the change

Sorry…he’d have the “artists at WDI create a unrivaled magical sound experience that won’t be forgotten…”

…or something like that

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

It’s a very minuscule part of the brand

And why it doesn’t make sense. California is the perfect spot…not Orlando

This is just an example of bobs collapsing “label” theory

Just throw a label on and the drones will feast

Except it it’s not…and you can’t make a dime on a marvel movie these days.

It’s also EXACTLY why ole Kathy is “retired” on one days notice

The strategy is a loser

I mean I feel like it’s a bad idea to try and make an example out of one of the most beloved rides and beloved franchises that still succeeds after their box office flops.

 

[peter11435]

It’s a very minuscule part of the brand

And why it doesn’t make sense. California is the perfect spot…not Orlando

This is just an example of bobs collapsing “label” theory

Just throw a label on and the drones will feast

Except it it’s not…and you can’t make a dime on a marvel movie these days.

It’s also EXACTLY why ole Kathy is “retired” on one days notice

The strategy is a loser

Nothing in this post has anything to do with the rights to guardians of the galaxy.

 

[ChrisFL]

California already has a GOTG ride

I wasn't aware Kathleen Kennedy was in charge of Marvel....that must have been a shock to Kevin Feige

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

California already has a GOTG ride

I wasn't aware Kathleen Kennedy was in charge of Marvel....that must have been a shock to Kevin Feige

Comparisons are hard…I know

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I mean I feel like it’s a bad idea to try and make an example out of one of the most beloved rides and beloved franchises that still succeeds after their box office flops.

Which one in turmoil are we defending?

 

[ChrisFL]

"Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 grossed $359 million in the United States and Canada, and $486.6 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $845.6 million. Deadline Hollywood calculated the net profit of the film to be $124 million, when factoring together all expenses and revenues."

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

"Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 grossed $359 million in the United States and Canada, and $486.6 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $845.6 million. Deadline Hollywood calculated the net profit of the film to be $124 million, when factoring together all expenses and revenues."

I assume this is some way elevates guardians to some type of “elite” status?

Not the case. The guardians movies are an incredible success. Especially for “late MCU”… that’s not the question. Probably with the 3 cap movies and the 4 avengers…the most impressive splinter series.

What it is not is “core marvel”. It’s a bit of a unicorn. I like it. Well done.

But not the “backbone” characters which are at islands. When marvel gave those rights…the universal park management didn’t go “random”…they covered hulk, fantastic four, Spider-Man and xmen. Kinda hard to really dispute the angle there…

MCU had done well beyond those…but has hit the wall the last 5 years. Numbers is numbers.

But this is irrelevant. Because they plopped guardians (a ride I always like) in the corner of Epcot in one of their Legendady “rot pavilions” out of nowhere. It’s landlocked…they can’t go anywhere else with marvel there…its neither the future nor the worlds fair. But we know those lines are blurred beyond visibility these days.

It’s a good ride. But it shouldn’t fit there. Hence the “slap a label on it”…which is very reflective of the bad management of two very large distressed properties. Both in the parks and out.

And Captain Imagineering accused it of being a gender thing. Which is low rent and incorrect. It’s the MALES that call the shots and made more of the mistakes. Yeah…I do blame them. enough blame to go around as well. Kumbaya

 

[CoasterCowboy67]

It’s landlocked…they can’t go anywhere else with marvel there

Why do they need to? Why isn't it a good thing they built an original concept ride integrated to Epcot's framework of technology-focused pavilions (Wonders of Xandar pavilion and the cosmic generator)? Are you suggesting a Marvel IP land was a better vision for Epcot?......

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

It’s a very minuscule part of the brand

And why it doesn’t make sense. California is the perfect spot…not Orlando

This is just an example of bobs collapsing “label” theory

Just throw a label on and the drones will feast

Except it it’s not…and you can’t make a dime on a marvel movie these days.

It’s also EXACTLY why ole Kathy is “retired” on one days notice

The strategy is a loser

Just total word salad