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DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

Pizza Moon

Active Member
I mean this as a genuine earnest question, not at all sarcasm or anything.

What was the inspiring bit? I rode it many times, and remember it well, and I really cannot pin down anything in it that I could call inspiring.
About thinking beyond, it delivered an experience that immersed you in a different POV of our reality.

The orchestral music just tickles something else too.

It felt humbling; like we’re so small in the grand cosmic scale of things, yet it’s also a fun time to just go along with Bill Nye explaining how the universe works, so many kids got a love of science through this.

Plus, Dinosaurs are just cool!
 

jah4955

Well-Known Member
About thinking beyond, it delivered an experience that immersed you in a different POV of our reality.

The orchestral music just tickles something else too.

It felt humbling; like we’re so small in the grand cosmic scale of things, yet it’s also a fun time to just go along with Bill Nye explaining how the universe works, so many kids got a love of science through this.

Plus, Dinosaurs are just cool!
I respect that. But I'm still curious if you ever rode Universe of Energy ("1.0").

I'm also curious if I'm on your ignore list and I'm talking to myself lol
 

Grotto123

Active Member
Yeah, it looks like they poured a concrete pad and then put sand on top of it? Maybe @lazyboy97o can shed some light on this.
I think between the show building and the ride track they want to make sure that the ground can handle that much weight. Or it could be that the original poor sank because it does look a little bit lower than the rest of the ground around it
 

monothingie

I'm #11 Baby!
Premium Member
You're entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.
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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
You're entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.
It’s amazing how they tend to multiply

The clientele in wdw is irrefutably more DUMB now than it was when I first encountered it…or the multiple decades since…

And that would be ok…because we have a lot of Heavy metals in our watersupply and our bodies are laced with micro plastics…

But it’s the immaturity laced with the anti-intellectualism that’s hard to tolerate. 🚼
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
When one considers Epcot and specifically Imagination I can't help but think that there must be something I am missing. That pavilion had a lengthy agenda when it came to being a people eater. There was the longer and quite a bit more amazing Figment/Dreamfinder ride now relegated to just a few minutes because so many people just quickly walk through the gift shop exit and out into the park. Figments popularity was enormous and it is the same people that still are loyal to the him. The ride now being less than spectacular has not managed to win over the number of followers that it once had. Those of us that were fans are not going to be around much longer and the new people are not enamored by it at all.

The Imagination Pavilion was once a spectacular pavilion with the ride, the Honey I shrunk the Audience movie (now collecting dust) and the hands on area with the rainbow tunnel (now a rest home for spiders) meant a lot of people in one place at one time. That whole place might as well be torn down and replaced with an empty lot. Do you realize that they never even bothered to create a sign for the ride. Just a cloth banner that has looked filthy since about two days after it was put up. That, to me, has been the largest decrease in quality of any location in all of WDW. I don't know if they have even repaired the outside fountains that were not aimed properly the last time I bothered to even look at them. The jury is still out on the loss of the RoA in MK and it's replacement. That has the possibility of being great or being just another Disney could have been.
Journey Into Imagination was constructed and maintained under the sponsorship of Kodak.

As I'm sure you're aware, the bulk of Kodak's profits at the time came from various consumer and commercial films and development technologies and equipment. Despite being the company that first invented the digital camera they sat on pursuing it for fear of what wide adoption would do to their cash cow.

As we now know, they were right about that but not on how they somehow thought they could delay the inevitable indefinitely while they ceded the digital market to competitors, almost completely.

When it came time to renew the sponsorship contract for the pavilion, they were not only unable to pay for a major update, they weren't going to be able to pay for the continued upkeep of what was already there. The replacement was never designed to be good or an upgrade to the original attraction. It was never meant to be better or bring improvements. It was meant to be cheap to do and maintain in order to get Kodak to continue paying for it.

and of course... that didn't last.

I'll say at least with Monsters, the E-ticket is a true park expansion. Hopefully the theater show is at least a technical upgrade from Muppets with some work going into the story to make it decent if better is too ambitious of a mark to hit.

I just don't want to see another Zootopia fiasco.
 
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dmc493

Well-Known Member
Yeah, it looks like they poured a concrete pad and then put sand on top of it? Maybe @lazyboy97o can shed some light on this.
My first reaction was that the initial slab was a mud slab, which gets used for a variety of reasons. When they were doing the deep foundation systems, there was nothing that looked like actual roller coaster foundations being poured. I've done mud slabs on many jobs mainly due to soil conditions and to provide clean working pad. They're usually super thin (which makes sense with how quickly it was poured). And no reason you would install duct banks (the conduit runs) above a slab, so the real structural slab is still to come.

That's my guess
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Yeah, it looks like they poured a concrete pad and then put sand on top of it? Maybe @lazyboy97o can shed some light on this.
I think @dmc493 covered it that’s a mud slab to provide additional stability. Went back and looked at some photos and it doesn’t look like there was ever any rebar placed which would also be consistent with a mud slab.
 

bmr1591

Well-Known Member
It’s amazing how they tend to multiply

The clientele in wdw is irrefutably more DUMB now than it was when I first encountered it…or the multiple decades since…

And that would be ok…because we have a lot of Heavy metals in our watersupply and our bodies are laced with micro plastics…

But it’s the immaturity laced with the anti-intellectualism that’s hard to tolerate. 🚼

When the counter to "Guardians is one of the most popular rides at the whole resort" is "Well, people are stupid", I just don't tend to give their opinion the time of day.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I think between the show building and the ride track they want to make sure that the ground can handle that much weight. Or it could be that the original poor sank because it does look a little bit lower than the rest of the ground around it
Stories of concrete structures just quickly sinking into the ground are greatly exaggerated. They excavated for the pour. Sinking of such scale wouldn’t be that uniform and it means you’re dealing with something quite serious. They wouldn’t just be proceeding with the work.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Journey Into Imagination was constructed and maintained under the sponsorship of Kodak.

As I'm sure you're aware, the bulk of Kodak's profits at the time came from various consumer and commercial films and development technologies and equipment. Despite being the company that first invented the digital camera they sat on pursuing it for fear of what wide adoption would do to their cash cow.

As we now know, they were right about that but not on how they somehow thought they could delay the inevitable indefinitely while they ceded the digital market to competitors, almost completely.

When it came time to renew the sponsorship contract for the pavilion, they were not only unable to pay for a major update, they weren't going to be able to pay for the continued upkeep of what was already there. The replacement was never designed to be good or an upgrade to the original attraction. It was never meant to be better or bring improvements. It was meant to be cheap to do and maintain in order to get Kodak to continue paying for it.

and of course... that didn't last.

I'll say at least with Monsters, the E-ticket is a true park expansion. Hopefully the theater show is at least a technical upgrade from Muppets with some work going into the story to make it decent if better is too ambitious of a mark to hit.

I just don't want to see another Zootopia fiasco.
The real problem is that Disney needed all those sponsors when Epcot first opened but today Disney is a multi-billion dollar profit company. They shouldn't allow a, done on the cheap, attraction in the park. They just don't care! They have or had a tremendous pavilion that they are letting rot away instead of making it a respectable draw thus not needing anyone to sponsor it. They needed to upgrade what they had as far as the ride. (refresh is more what I'm thinking. because I want the beginning of the ride to continue the way it originally was just technologically improved}. Put something 4D back in the theater. If they can't think of anything they shouldn't be calling themselves imagineers. Yea, I know accounts are calling all the shots now and they are thinking that they are to big to fail. Ask them what happened to Kodak due to bad decisions.
 

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