GimpYancIent
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Good point. BUT, why can there not be Star Wars Weekends at Galaxies Edge (i.e. Batu)?
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Does anyone else think Galaxy’s Edge is a misfire?
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surfsupdon
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I just say because the park has gained popularity while reducing capacity so it's always a crowded mess and they do not want to make it worse.
FettFan
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according to Jim Hill…
Source: https://www.cinemablend.com/news/24...ry-potter-attractions-but-the-plans-were-tiny
FettFan
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Presumably because there are no Earth-based actors or Earth-produced movies on Baatu/Batuu/Baatuu and they want you get “the real Star Wars experience”.
Same reason they didn’t just move Launch Bay into Galaxy’s Edge; they wanted to create a LARPfest that very few people were actually interested in.
Like Pioneer Village, but Star Wars.
TrainsOfDisney
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But you can scan QR codes on crates!!!!
We need to accept the reality that Potter is NOT bigger than Star Wars, especially not in America.
The Force Awakens is still the highest grossing film domestically of all time. All the goodwill for that film was “Star Wars” in general, not the film itself as merch and it’s cultural relevancy for it specifically flopped when Star Ward was always known for both, and being unique, boundary-pushing, and authentic. I just don’t grasp how anyone can look at Disney’s general inability to create actual heartfelt movies anymore. The Lilo and Stitch remake legitimately made me sad: it’s like they take not only the heart and authenticity out of things but literally color and unique cinematography too.
Imagine a different timeline where Disney actually created a truly inventive and unique trilogy, made a land that was so good it instantly inspired expansion or other experiences like Potter has, merch is flying off the shelf in general. You can’t please everyone, but when Rogue One is really the only universally liked movie they have done, what are they even doing, and even then it wasn’t as imaginative as it could’ve been, it was just told competently and with some insane aspects.
The degree of missed opportunity should be studied in business textbooks, but it’s unlikely it ever will due to a combination of ideological capture and a dismissiveness to believing that creativity and imagination are actually good things instead of just mindless zombie content to be consumed.
On X again today, saw a new post with over a thousand likes complaining about insufferable Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, and Pirates of the Caribbean fans. I’m truly a Pirates then Star Wars fan, but I totally get the comparison for all of it.
It’s like, haven’t they ALL dropped off as film franchises? Is it not fair to not want to be force fed 6/10 at best content over and over?
Of those, Star Wars is the only one they legitimately also dropped the ball on the more permanent theme parks, yet TWDC is incapable of diagnosing the issue itself because it’s like a narcissist being told to self-reflect and change. I guess Marvel is an even more hilarious missed opportunity. A Spider-Man Brooklyn land and Wakanda would’ve broken the internet like the Door Coaster has. So would have a pod-racing coaster. It’s like I really am sick of IPs being shoved into every corner of theme parks, but when IPs are used, just do them right. Give us an actual Princess and the Frog ride. Give us an actual Star Wars Land.
Rant done
Very good point.
The larping thing has never ever made sense to me. The Starcruiser was based around this too, and I want intention in designed and backstory ideally as Frontierland at DLP did right, but I wanted to just visit these worlds and characters. I don’t even think the land is good for larping/cosplay either. The only thing that remotely feels successful in this regard is Rise.
I should honestly dig more into it. I don’t really understand why that ride is just so much better than every other aspect of the land. I feel like with Potter by comparison the lands are more the star of the show.
Still silly though, they could absolutely decide to pivot, and include Darth Vader or whatever. They are artificially shooting themselves in the foot.
Obviously it’s not as immediately impactful but it sort of reminds me of Kodak refusing to switch to digital cameras because they thought they knew better despite literally having a head start in the tech. Disney is literally just coasting on their IPs and very little more at this point. I don’t think there have been any worse companies for commercial art at this point than Disney and Netflix. Everything has been stripped down to remove the inherent artistic expression in favor of HR approved projects, it is unusual for something to slip past this filter.
Star Wars is not a little kids franchise like Winnie the Pooh either, the last 6 (soon to be 7) theatrical Star Wars films have all been PG-13 for a reason.
You didn’t realize?
Merch goes brrr.
It makes zero sense that Orlando didn’t get some equivalent of Pooh’s Hunny Hunt.
I mean, MK didn’t get a single significant new ride between Splash Mountain and Seven Dwarfs Mine Train.
When you realize this it’s even nuttier. Zero reason they couldn’t have kept Toad and built a new Pooh ride.
Disney has left so much money on the table for so long.
tpoly88
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I remember seeing the original because I was too young to get into Smokey and the bandit. Movie was great for the time as no one had those effects. Went and saw it a couple days later and had to wait 2hrs on line to get in. It was exciting and could wait for the next installment of Empire then return or the Jedi. Galaxy edge is a miss as someone mentioned it has no life to it. There is no energy there. Rotr is a very good ride ride but the whole land is just not fun. Also it really threw HS into a different direction and away from the original theme. I like Pixar place and the area by the ToT but edge feels dead
flynnibus
Premium Member
You should also accept the reality that using data poorly leads to bad results.
SW has a 20+ year head start in those numbers and multiple waves.
What matters in a theme park is what your customers are attracted to - not what other people did 40years ago.
TLDR - Cumulative stats (even those horribly sourced like these) are garbage to decide relevance in this context.
flynnibus
Premium Member
It's pretty simple... instead of looking at something.. YOU ARE IN SOMETHING. What separates Rise from other attractions is the fact the guests are literally in the middle of it all.. Surrounded on all 6 sides by the show. They literally run through the middle of gun fights and live space battles. When in full force, the guests ARE the characters in the story.. you aren't told a story.. you LIVE IT. All the elements like the special effects are just adding to the suspension of disbelief and then add the wow factor to it. The entire experience has SCALE, length, thrills, energy, and wow factors.
Similar with WWOHP. You are put into environments that fully engulf you. The breadth of how far the environment is taken to make it seem like the stores you read about, the characters, and the atmosphere were unmatched. Again, instead of looking at something.. you literally move through it freely, discovering all the reminders, and seeing the 'magic' tucked everywhere.
It's the same kind of reason the Star Trek experience was so cool (tho unfortunately not as end to end immersive) - when the guests get put into 360 environments and aren't just strapped to a chair... you start on an entirely new level.
Disstevefan1
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Wow Pokemon not in the same universe as the rest!!!!
I wonder how much more Star Wars would have made if KK had not destroyed it
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I’d say there’s more juice in potter now and going forward than Star Wars…but a lot depends on “asset management”…
Star Wars was the biggest thing ever for its actual output. It’s really hard to dispute…but it has taken so many hits due to P Poor management that it’s greatly diminished.
That doesn’t mean it’s done or can’t go on the upswing…but it’s not on the radar as of now
Star Wars was the biggest thing ever for its actual output. It’s really hard to dispute…but it has taken so many hits due to P Poor management that it’s greatly diminished.
That doesn’t mean it’s done or can’t go on the upswing…but it’s not on the radar as of now
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It uses awful ip that ages poorly with each passing day…and frankly - trackless is very lame from an “excitement” angle
These issues can be addressed…but not with the Jurassic management they currently have
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
They have 90% botched the franchise…
…the rides and the lands are less definitive. They’re very well designed, constructed, and technically innovative…
But it was always about character, setting and tone for Star Wars…since Jimmy Carter
To quote good movie lines…the management did this:
“I don’t believe it…”
“…that…is why you fail…”
Disstevefan1
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All I know is the HP lands at the Universal parks BLOWS THE DOORS OFF of Disney Star Wars lands, and I am not even a HP fan..
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
They are very well themed and designed…maybe best integrated lands I’ve seen?
And i’m a classic WED/WDI fan…so I’m not being flippant or derogatory towards Disney here
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
You’re totally right…
Which means there about a dozen obvious/easy changes to be made buried in this post