DHS Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular Boulder Incident

[HMF]

I talk to two Imagineers regularly, both having joined the company in the past few years. One is highly steeped in the company's past and reveres who came before him - the other knows about that stuff (or at least seems to), but cares more about getting ahead and advancing - very much "making a mark" kind of guy. You can guess which one I prefer to talk to, and who I make time to talk to when I can...

I am glad someone like the first one can survive in the current state of the company.

 

[MrPromey]

I still think the idea of crossing over a bridge and made me go light-years to another planet when I clearly can smell Rainforest Cafe food on the other side...

For what it's worth I never really bought that walking through the dining area of a closed quickservice restaurant transports me from a turn of the last century small town main street into the future-that-never-was either but sometimes you gotta just sort of roll with it.

 

[MrPromey]

I think that’s one reason but not the only one.

Shows can run so long that they get stale; people may like to see something new and different.

[Beauty and the Beast – Live on Stage has entered the thread]

 

[Jeff456]

Hoping for a quick recovery for the cast member... Hopefully the show stays as well, I don't see this incident as a reason to close the show, they can probably modify it slightly to prevent it happening again or the odds (proven by the 1000s of shows) of repeat are so small once it's been inspected it reopens. An element of risk will always be present in the show.

 

[WondersOfLife]

They have literally had stunt actors die from this show. This incident is pretty mild tbh.

 

[Tha Realest]

It looks like the show was running yesterday, without the boulder

 

[Goofyernmost]

I dont think so. Thats more of a Universal thing to do... or specifically, an epcot thing to do.

Hollywood Studios tends to use all of its space and resources these days it seems... to the point of revamping mermaid, animation, and using sounds dangerous for mickey shorts.

There are a number places where what replaced the original is not worth even looking at the outside much less enter. Granted most of those were heavy into human beings as part of the show. But I don't even walk in front of the area that once had the Monster Sound Show and Superstar Television. Nothing there has been of interest to me in those places.

I know there is a lot of negative banter concerning Toy Story Land and Star Wars Land, but at least those beat the hell out of those cardboard cutouts of Streets and Cities. Once they stopped making movies or shows in there they were just a place to place people in to ease the crowding in the rest of the park. It was amusing for a while and a great place for the Christmas light shows, but other wise what did it really provide. For that part, at least, it was a substantial improvement.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I still think the idea of crossing over a bridge and made me go light-years to another planet when I clearly can smell Rainforest Cafe food on the other side...

Even alien planet people have to eat. Rainforest Cafe just happened to have a presence there. It was a popular franchise at one time.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Nah. HM, IASW, peter pan, pirates, peoplemover, SSE, LWTL, TT, safari i don’t see going anywhere.

Has anyone ridden the people mover in Disneyland in the last twenty years? If TT means Test Track all that needs is for GM to decide it is no longer worth the investment it will be gone in a heartbeat. If TT means Tower of Terror see if you can find one that was once in California Adventure. Safari could be removed and the animal distributed out to ItisaZoo's and the fact that the new Tropical Land replacing Dinosaur has absolutely nothing to do with animals at all. I think a complete remake of that park has just started to be just a potpourri of other themes. How many people remember how close it got to altering SSE into some form of coaster. LWTL will probably exist as long as Disney feels that the produce and seafood they grow can be used in the restaurants. When was the last time we anyone saw anyone working in the alleged labs. Because of popularity and the fact that it isn't overly dependant on staffing the first few are likely to be around for some more time, but nothing is sacred. All one needs to do to prove that is try and ride the steamship or visit TSI. Something that was basic to a Disney Park. Times change, demand changes and as with life nothing ever remains the same.

 

[drizgirl]

It's why it's lasted as long as it has...huge peopleeater...

Didn’t stop them from axing Lights Camera Action.

 

[jah4955]

Didn’t stop them from axing Lights Camera Action.

no IP with LCA

 

[ChrisFL]

no IP with LCA

it had Herbie..............for 10 seconds

 

[EagleScout610]

no IP with LCA

If i remember correctly they had a McQueen segment when I went in 2011 for Cars 2

 

[jah4955]

it had Herbie..............for 10 seconds

ohhhhh yeahhhhh

Wasn't that about the same time as the Lindsey Lohan "reboot?"

 

[jah4955]

If i remember correctly they had a McQueen segment when I went in 2011 for Cars 2

Not surprised there.

But my last true visit to HS was an evening in 2010 (briefly there in 2020, but between the vid & 2+ hour waits for everything else, all we could "do" was 1 Man's Dream & that AWFUL "vacation fun" before giving up )

 

[Goofyernmost]

no IP with LCA

Just a little thought here. You're an artist and you feel that you are pretty good at it and have a whole lot of ideas. Somehow, in someway you got a job with Disney Imagineers. This is your big break and you know that you and your imagination will solidify you and your families future so rocking the boat would be dangerous in the least. You have a lot of new plans, some even committed to paper that you think will be colossal.

One day a meeting is called and the head of your department calls everyone in to bounce around about a possible new attraction in MK. A whole lot of hands go up and one after another they and you tell the "boss" the ideas that y'all either have or have in early stages of development. The boss seem impressed and calls you aside where you are told that he/she would like to present this to the next level up because it is original and very Disney like in design. After that it might stall there or continue up through the bureaucracy until it lands on the desk of the man/woman that makes that final decision to green light it. That person says, hey I like this but, we have this new movie coming out that we would like to connect with via that parks. Can you possibly change a few names and locations to make it connect with this new idea someone, probably higher up than you, came up with.

You realize that it is a major gamble but you believe in it so that bids the questions... Do you tell them to pound rock salt and threaten to quit or go to another company? Do you respectfully ask them if they could give you some idea what they are truly looking for and comply? In other words do you sacrifice your handsome salary plus bonuses and move on to a more forward looking company or do you just do what they ask and what they feel they are paying you to do? Do you get the pen in hand and merge it into a less risky I.P.? I think this would be a tough decision to make if you are sincere about your talent, but it isn't tested and they are putting millions on the line.

None of this people in this scenario is Walt Disney. He was the Disney Company and after only a brief time of going public, pretty much answered only to himself and sometimes Roy. With your lucrative job possibly on the line, how many chances would you take? Wouldn't you feel that your idea was good, but risking trying to force the topic and a pretty slick job.

Some of your bosses might have been around when Disney Imagineering took chances. They created the castle cake which was an impressive engineering and imaginative venture for just one 25th anniversary extra. Guess what, all they got for all that effort and all that money was criticism of how they had vandalized a plastic castle. Then the god awful hat that was decided by the top about were to put it. Least we forget the hand over Spaceship Earth that was hated. That is just a few of the awful things that happened in the process of imagining. Then there was Epcot that lasted a seriously short time and involved almost 100% original stuff. It could hold the interest of the public for a short time. In the meantime they started to use I.P.'s and were successful. The only complaints they got was that they were I.P.'s but the parks were crowded. What would you do?

 

[Comped]

When was the last time we anyone saw anyone working in the alleged labs.

Shortly before a recent ... issue. There are people who legitimately work there, I've had that confirmed it's through finding job postings which mention it as a possible work locatio (and also by folks who work on the Disney end of things). It is still a very legitimate facility, and one of the most popular work locations in the entire government.

 

[jah4955]

Just a little thought here. You're an artist and you feel that you are pretty good at it and have a whole lot of ideas. Somehow, in someway you got a job with Disney Imagineers. This is your big break and you know that you and your imagination will solidify you and your families future so rocking the boat would be dangerous in the least. You have a lot of new plans, some even committed to paper that you think will be colossal.

One day a meeting is called and the head of your department calls everyone in to bounce around about a possible new attraction in MK. A whole lot of hands go up and one after another they and you tell the "boss" the ideas that y'all either have or have in early stages of development. The boss seem impressed and calls you aside where you are told that he/she would like to present this to the next level up because it is original and very Disney like in design. After that it might stall there or continue up through the bureaucracy until it lands on the desk of the man/woman that makes that final decision to green light it. That person says, hey I like this but, we have this new movie coming out that we would like to connect with via that parks. Can you possibly change a few names and locations to make it connect with this new idea someone, probably higher up than you, came up with.

You realize that it is a major gamble but you believe in it so that bids the questions... Do you tell them to pound rock salt and threaten to quit or go to another company? Do you respectfully ask them if they could give you some idea what they are truly looking for and comply? In other words do you sacrifice your handsome salary plus bonuses and move on to a more forward looking company or do you just do what they ask and what they feel they are paying you to do? Do you get the pen in hand and merge it into a less risky I.P.? I think this would be a tough decision to make if you are sincere about your talent, but it isn't tested and they are putting millions on the line.

None of this people in this scenario is Walt Disney. He was the Disney Company and after only a brief time of going public, pretty much answered only to himself and sometimes Roy. With your lucrative job possibly on the line, how many chances would you take? Wouldn't you feel that your idea was good, but risking trying to force the topic and a pretty slick job.

Some of your bosses might have been around when Disney Imagineering took chances. They created the castle cake which was an impressive engineering and imaginative venture for just one 25th anniversary extra. Guess what, all they got for all that effort and all that money was criticism of how they had vandalized a plastic castle. Then the god awful hat that was decided by the top about were to put it. Least we forget the hand over Spaceship Earth that was hated. That is just a few of the awful things that happened in the process of imagining. Then there was Epcot that lasted a seriously short time and involved almost 100% original stuff. It could hold the interest of the public for a short time. In the meantime they started to use I.P.'s and were successful. The only complaints they got was that they were I.P.'s but the parks were crowded. What would you do?

I was making a joke.

I understand/understood much of the y of the ip glut. No one knows 100% of the story. I know it's likely here to stay.

But I'm entitled to joke about it and reminisce on when ip wasn't as prominent as today.

 

[Tom P.]

I couldn't care less about "lands" and "immersion." Maybe I'm just weird. I want good attractions. That's it. Sure, walking through Galaxy's Edge and interacting with Storm Troopers is fun, but I still am at Hollywood Studios and no amount of theming and atmosphere is gonna make me feel I'm on another world. Same with Pandora. Just not my thing. Like I said, I just want good, fun attractions.

 

[Turtlekrawl]

I couldn't care less about "lands" and "immersion." Maybe I'm just weird. I want good attractions. That's it. Sure, walking through Galaxy's Edge and interacting with Storm Troopers is fun, but I still am at Hollywood Studios and no amount of theming and atmosphere is gonna make me feel I'm on another world. Same with Pandora. Just not my thing. Like I said, I just want good, fun attractions.

As time goes on, I increasingly find myself having the opposite take. I am finding more enjoyment and pleasure walking around and soaking up the atmosphere and immersion of the lands than experiencing the attractions.
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