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Splash4eva

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That’s what the worlds dumbest lawyer likes to say…
Might not want to line up with him
Listen. Do i think they are over priced now? Most likely so but is it possible they were under priced in the 80’s early 90’s? Heck i went on my 1st solo trip as a late teen with my gf and stayed Contemporary and did it all. Trip didnt seem outrageously priced
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Listen. Do i think they are over priced now? Most likely so but is it possible they were under priced in the 80’s early 90’s? Heck i went on my 1st solo trip as a late teen with my gf and stayed Contemporary and did it all. Trip didnt seem outrageously priced
Since I’m familiar with pricing from the 90’s…I can tell you with certainty.
The prices were perfect…it drew in a large, multigenerational fanbase to travel in a different form and made one of the titans of world entertainment…it also built a very lucrative timeshare

It was never about maximizing every sale for every penny for quarterlies…which is proven ineffective anyway…each year
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
This has been the first day that felt like hell (2018) in studios

Rookie mistake…studios is always bad before New Year’s Eve

But I’ve been chatting with the peasants in lines…really heavy in locals and dvc. Low value guests 😎
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
Since I’m familiar with pricing from the 90’s…I can tell you with certainty.
The prices were perfect…it drew in a large, multigenerational fanbase to travel in a different form and made one of the titans of world entertainment…it also built a very lucrative timeshare

It was never about maximizing every sale for every penny for quarterlies…which is proven ineffective anyway…each year
Maybe somewhere in the middle is the correct answer… listen i agree prices have gotten out of hand with every extra up charge dining souvenir etc but people still going and we all been saying the bridge is gonna break but it hasnt but as we both agree stock and ceo has been beyond underwhelming so maybe it has and noone has realized it yet…
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
With my lighting lane purchases? Or all those after hours tickets?

Of the fixed price nonsense menus?
With whatever you are spending your money on at the mouse ;). Pretty sure you are DVC off memory. So dues etc. You are there now so tickets… assuming you are eating & drinking in the parks. Whatever money you are spending in theory is feeding the beast.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
With whatever you are spending your money on at the mouse ;). Pretty sure you are DVC off memory. So dues etc. You are there now so tickets… assuming you are eating & drinking in the parks. Whatever money you are spending in theory is feeding the beast.
I still have fun on my terms…but won’t gloss or support the stuff that’s over the line

Generally speaking…”reject stupidity” is a general mission statement in life.

So what brings you here? If you are scared from going…what’s the point in defending them?

Is it the price?
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
I still have fun on my terms…but won’t gloss or support the stuff that’s over the line

Generally speaking…”reject stupidity” is a general mission statement in life.

So what brings you here? If you are scared from going…what’s the point in defending them?

Is it the price?
Im more having some fun here with you. Like i said. I enjoy our interactions…

I “defend” them on certain areas and crush them in others. No company is perfect. No company makes sounds decisions all the time….

There were multiple reasons why i cancelled in June and why i am not going this weekend. Honestly money was not one of the major factors. The stale product definitely played a factor if you want the truth. My daughter telling me she wasnt overly excited about our trip because of again stale product among other reasons…

Time also is precious so if i feel a place no longer brings the ultimate joys it once did time to take a step back and do something else with the time. So money really never crossed my mind as a reason not to go…

Ill be back dont get me wrong but i cant envision me going until
A good amount of this “expansion” is completed. If i had to take a true educated guess. Thanksgiving 2027….
 

bmr1591

Well-Known Member
The question I continue to have, and no one ever seems to give a great answer to, is how do you fix the pricing problem without upsetting shareholders? We can say slash prices across the board, but that’s not a realistic path forward. Is DVC overpriced? Absolutely. Is it still selling well? Apparently. And even if they wanted to cut buy in by $10,000, what do you do for all those who purchased at $35,000? That doesn’t seem like good business to upset your core audience like that.

I’m just unsure what realistic path forward y’all would like to see. Not your dream, but actual reality.
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
The question I continue to have, and no one ever seems to give a great answer to, is how do you fix the pricing problem without upsetting shareholders? We can say slash prices across the board, but that’s not a realistic path forward. Is DVC overpriced? Absolutely. Is it still selling well? Apparently. And even if they wanted to cut buy in by $10,000, what do you do for all those who purchased at $35,000? That doesn’t seem like good business to upset your core audience like that.

I’m just unsure what realistic path forward y’all would like to see. Not your dream, but actual reality.
As discussed before stock has basically been a dog during one of the biggest bull runs ever… so we can argue the “model” isnt working. I see your point in saying if you reduce prices your reduce revenue and profits but in the same breathe you can argue if you reduce enough you will get more people there and bring in more moneyin return. I will say this. You will never ever see the paid FP and Premium LL go away. Along with these up charge events and double dipping party events…. Reduction in ticket prices/hotels and souvenirs and in park purchases of food etc can be a path in right direction.

Ultimately tho they need abetter fresh product with new rides and true expansion to capacity. People will still pay and more will come. Entertainment. Hours expanded
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
The question I continue to have, and no one ever seems to give a great answer to, is how do you fix the pricing problem without upsetting shareholders? We can say slash prices across the board, but that’s not a realistic path forward. Is DVC overpriced? Absolutely. Is it still selling well? Apparently. And even if they wanted to cut buy in by $10,000, what do you do for all those who purchased at $35,000? That doesn’t seem like good business to upset your core audience like that.

I’m just unsure what realistic path forward y’all would like to see. Not your dream, but actual reality.
You can’t…which is why putting 60% of your megacorp on the back of your themepark division was an awful management failure

They were right were they needed to be at about 40%…

It’s not all on Bob…but it’s mostly Bob’s stupidity about the death of cable
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
As discussed before stock has basically been a dog during one of the biggest bull runs ever… so we can argue the “model” isnt working. I see your point in saying if you reduce prices your reduce revenue and profits but in the same breathe you can argue if you reduce enough you will get more people there and bring in more moneyin return. I will say this. You will never ever see the paid FP and Premium LL go away. Along with these up charge events and double dipping party events…. Reduction in ticket prices/hotels and souvenirs and in park purchases of food etc can be a path in right direction.

Ultimately tho they need abetter fresh product with new rides and true expansion to capacity. People will still pay and more will come. Entertainment. Hours expanded
Fair…

The crap I get is usually misplaced on what I’m saying…

I don’t want it to be 1999 again with fees or prices…just you have to demand a little more for the prices and fees. Don’t just gobble up rehabs and downgrades to what they have and act like its “advancement”
For feee-wings it’s a good value.

Consumers are on the opposite team as TWDC…not the same one
 

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
But again arent you in theory still feeding the beast by going?
I’ll continue visiting Disney as long as I enjoy it and see the value. I see things going in the right direction at WDW - they brought back the echo set at voices for the first time since 2019. We have a night parade at MK again. They used the Main Street piano player and voices of Liberty in an ad campaign for the holidays. Whoever made the free passholder calendar clearly knows what Disney fans want - and that was a really nice and classy gift.

There are issues - but the ship hasn’t sailed yet.
 

jrhwdw

Well-Known Member
Like last year, a Wonderful Sendoff for MOUACT'S 2025 Season just happened! Thank You MK for the past 10 Amazing Days!!!!!!

What a year this has been! Old School MK is Most certainly BACK!!!! 😀😃🙂
 

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