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The Imagineering Movie Discussion Thread

TheOriginalTiki

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I'm honestly facing a bit of an identity crisis over Hamnet and Sentimental Value. I respect both of them more than I actively like them. Hamnet I can totally see WHY it's being hyped up. The cinematography is gorgeous, the acting is flawless, the ending hits like a ton of bricks. It's just not the type of movie I'm ever going to have any sort of desire to actually watch again, no matter how artistic it is. Call it the subject matter of focusing on a death, call it my distaste for Shakespearean dialogue in general, I don't know. It's a great film that comes across as super cold and calculated and borderline emotionally manipulative for my taste.

Sentimental Value is honestly kind of the opposite. On a film making level it takes on much more of a French new wave realist vibe so nothing about the presentation is all that flashy, but I did find it really enjoyable and loved the characters. Once again though, for as good as the movie is it's just not something I think I'd ever be drawn to rewatch. I honestly think Jay Kelly was the more effective of the two movies this awards season focused on industry veterans looking back on their life. This is easily the more serious and grounded of the two, but it just didn't have a character arc as compelling as Sandler's in Jay Kelly to latch on to.

I think one of my big issues is just a taste thing...the movie really doesn't have any sort of structure to it. It's got an overall hook with the initial premise, but the editing just kind of floats from scene to scene in a way that's a bit disconnected for my taste. I could tell this was a deliberate choice, it just didn't really work for me. That being said I honestly think the ending of this film hits even harder than Hamnet and is a similar "big payoff for literally everything the movie has been building up to" kind of moment.

I don't know guys, I think I'm just sort of falling out with these art house Oscar movies a bit. They're all technically exquisite, but from a sheer entertainment point of view very much keep me at arms length. I don't know what it was about Train Dreams that really did it for me, but that's easily the best "Art House" movie I've seen all year and that film is very much a dark horse in the Oscar race. Am I becoming a normie???
 

TheOriginalTiki

Well-Known Member
For Best Actor I'm going to say right now I'm seriously considering linking Cooper Hoffman and David Jonson together the same way we did for the two Challengers leads last year.
 

TheOriginalTiki

Well-Known Member
Louis Cancelmi- Sorry, Baby
Jai Courtney- Dangerous Animals
Sally Hawkins- Bring Her Back
Nicholas Hoult- Superman
Amy Madigan- Weapons
West Mulholland- Presence
Sean Penn- One Battle After Another
Jesse Plemons- Bugonia
Jeremy Renner- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Paul Schneider- Train Dreams
Alicia Vikander- The Assessment
Jonah Wren Phillips- Bring Her Back
Much like Lizzy, I will not stand for this SpongeBob erasure 🤣 🤣
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Mr. Sullivan

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Roc Chen, Rui Yang + Wan Pin Chu- Ne Zha 2
Alexandre Desplat- Frankenstein
Alexandre Desplat- Jurassic World: Rebirth
Bryce Dessner- Train Dreams
Jerskin Fendrix- Bugonia
David Fleming- Americana
Simon Franglen- Avatar: Fire and Ash
Johnny Greenwood- One Battle After Another
Andy Grush + Taylor Newton Stewart- The Life of Chuck
Nathan Johnson- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Nine Inch Nails- TRON: Ares
Max Richter- Hamnet
Hans Zimmer- F1
Giacchino being shafted for score is criminal! Criminal I say!!

Kick Desplat out and tag my boy in!!
 

Mr. Sullivan

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Truly the Barbenheimer of our time.

Is SpongeBob actually worth seeing in theaters?
For me it is! I’m a massive Spongebob fan. The show is in a quality renaissance at the moment (season 15 and 16 to me are not quite to 1-3 level but are on par with 4) and the reviews have been pretty stellar so I’m very sat.
 

PerGron

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I'm honestly facing a bit of an identity crisis over Hamnet and Sentimental Value. I respect both of them more than I actively like them. Hamnet I can totally see WHY it's being hyped up. The cinematography is gorgeous, the acting is flawless, the ending hits like a ton of bricks. It's just not the type of movie I'm ever going to have any sort of desire to actually watch again, no matter how artistic it is. Call it the subject matter of focusing on a death, call it my distaste for Shakespearean dialogue in general, I don't know. It's a great film that comes across as super cold and calculated and borderline emotionally manipulative for my taste.

Sentimental Value is honestly kind of the opposite. On a film making level it takes on much more of a French new wave realist vibe so nothing about the presentation is all that flashy, but I did find it really enjoyable and loved the characters. Once again though, for as good as the movie is it's just not something I think I'd ever be drawn to rewatch. I honestly think Jay Kelly was the more effective of the two movies this awards season focused on industry veterans looking back on their life. This is easily the more serious and grounded of the two, but it just didn't have a character arc as compelling as Sandler's in Jay Kelly to latch on to.

I think one of my big issues is just a taste thing...the movie really doesn't have any sort of structure to it. It's got an overall hook with the initial premise, but the editing just kind of floats from scene to scene in a way that's a bit disconnected for my taste. I could tell this was a deliberate choice, it just didn't really work for me. That being said I honestly think the ending of this film hits even harder than Hamnet and is a similar "big payoff for literally everything the movie has been building up to" kind of moment.

I don't know guys, I think I'm just sort of falling out with these art house Oscar movies a bit. They're all technically exquisite, but from a sheer entertainment point of view very much keep me at arms length. I don't know what it was about Train Dreams that really did it for me, but that's easily the best "Art House" movie I've seen all year and that film is very much a dark horse in the Oscar race. Am I becoming a normie???
man I'm stoked to see how our top 20s compare this year.
 

PerGron

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Sentimental Value is honestly kind of the opposite. On a film making level it takes on much more of a French new wave realist vibe so nothing about the presentation is all that flashy, but I did find it really enjoyable and loved the characters. Once again though, for as good as the movie is it's just not something I think I'd ever be drawn to rewatch. I honestly think Jay Kelly was the more effective of the two movies this awards season focused on industry veterans looking back on their life. This is easily the more serious and grounded of the two, but it just didn't have a character arc as compelling as Sandler's in Jay Kelly to latch on to.
Yeah I just left Sentimental Value an hour or so ago and I don't think I loved it. I liked the characters but something about it just didn't do it for me.

That said, Stellan Skarsgard is being added to my shortlists.
 

TheOriginalTiki

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This probably isn't 100% complete yet and I'm expecting Marty Supreme to be a major player in some categories, but for now here are my short lists.

Best Picture
Train Dreams
The Long Walk
One Battle After Another
Weapons
Twinless
Best Actor
Joel Edgarton - Train Dreams
Liam Neasson - The Naked Gun
The Long Walk Duo (Cooper Hoffman and David Jonson)
Oscar Isaac - Frankenstein
Leonardo DiCaprio - One Battle After Another
Tim Robinson - Friendship
Dylan O'Brien - Twinless

Best Actress
The Wicked Gals
Jennifer Lawrence - Die My Love
Emma Stone - Bugonia
Eva Victor - Sorry, Baby
Renate Reinsve - Sentimental Value

Best Supporting Actor
Benencio Del Toro - One Battle After Another
Sean Penn - One Battle After Another
Ben Wang - The Long Walk
William H. Macey - Train Dreams
Adam Sandler - Jay Kelly
Michael Cera - The Phoenecian Scheme
Jared Harris - A House of Dynamite
Paul Rudd - Friendship
Coleman Domingo - The Running Man

Best Supporting Actress
Amy Madigan - Weapons
Judy Greer - The Long Walk
Felicity Jones - Train Dreams
Rebecca Ferguson - A House of Dynamite
Laura Dern - Jay Kelly
Oona Chaplin - Avatar: Fire and Ash
Teyana Taylor - One Battle After Another

Best Voiceover Performance
Jason Bateman - Zootopia 2
Patrick Warburton - Zootopia 2
Sam Rockwell - The Bad Guys 2
Zoey Saldana - Avatar: Fire and Ash
Brad Garrett - Elio
Nick Offerman - The Life of Chuck
Will Patton - Train Dreams
Scarlett Sher - Weapons

Best Ensemble Cast
Weapons
One Battle After Another
The Long Walk
Train Dreams
Superman
Jay Kelly
Bugonia
A House of Dynamite
Eternity

Best Director
James Cameron - Avatar: Fire and Ash
Paul Thomas Anderson - One Battle After Another
Yorgos Lathimos - Bugonia
Chris Stuckmann - Shelby Oaks
Katherine Bigalow - A House of Dynamite
Lynn Ramsey - Die My Love
Clint Bentley - Train Dreams
Francis Lawrence - The Long Walk
Chloe Zhao - Hamnet
James Gunn - Superman
Zack Cregger - Weapons

Best Screenplay
Twinless
One Battle After Another
Train Dreams
Weapons
Sorry Baby
Eternity
Jay Kelly

Best Animated Feature
Honestly this year has been freaking terrible for animated movies in general, so there's literally nothing in this category that I'm actually passionate about. I guess Zootopia 2, Elio, and The Bad Guys 2 just by default...

Best Needle Drop
Basket Case - Bugonia
Dirty Work - One Battle After Another
American Girl - One Battle After Another
In Spite of Ourselves - Die My Love
Five Years Time - Superman
The Peoplemover Theme - Fantastic Four: First Steps
Beware of Darkness - Weapons
Harmony Hall - Jurassic World: Rebirth

Best Original Song
Give Your Love - The Ballad of Wallace Island
Morning Evening - The Battle of Wallace Island
Zoo - Zootopia 2
Train Dreams - Train Dreams
The Girl in the Bubble - Wicked: For Good

Best Score
Train Dreams
The Life of Chuck
Elio
Fantastic Four: First Steps
The Long Walk
Twinless
One Battle After Another
TRON: Ares

Best Ending
Train Dreams
Elio
Superman
Weapons
Twinless
The Life of Chuck
Shelby Oaks
Die My Love
Bugonia

Best Villain
Lockjaw - One Battle After Another
Gladys - Weapons
Ramek - Sinners
Teddy - Bugonia
Dennis - Twinless
The Major - The Long Walk
Varaang - Avatar: Fire and Ash
Quaritch - Avatar: Fire and Ash

Best Production Design
Train Dreams
Wicked: For Good
Superman
Fantastic Four: First Steps
Bugonia
The Life of Chuck
28 Years Later

Best Visual Effects
Fantastic Four: First Steps
Avatar: Fire and Ash
TRON: Ares
Weapons
Predator: Badlands
Frankenstein

Best Cinematography
Train Dreams
Weapons
28 Years Later
Frankenstein
The Long Walk
One Battle After Another

Best Cameo
Jojo Rabbit - The Long Walk
Matthew Lillard - The Life of Chuck
Weird Al Yankovic - The Naked Gun
Kevin Flynn - TRON: Ares
Tony Todd - Final Destination: Bloodlines

Weirdest Little Creep
Dennis - Twinless
SpongeBob SquarePants - Wicked: For Good
Marmalade - The Bay Guys 2
Alex Lilly - Weapons
Colin Hanks - Nobody 2
Charlie Day - Honey Don't
Barkovitch - The Long Walk

Best Hair and Makeup
The Toxic Avenger
Frankenstein
The Long Walk
28 Years Later
Die My Love
Wicked: For Good

Best Costumes
Hamnet
Wicked: For Good
28 Years Later
Bugonia
Frankenstein
Eternity

Best Editing
The Long Walk
One Battle After Another
Train Dreams
A House of Dynamite
Twinless
Sorry Baby
The Naked Gun
Eternity

Best Stunts and Choreography
The Naked Gun
Wicked: For Good
F1
Kiss of the Spider Woman
28 Years Later
Weapons
 

PerGron

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we’re also going to be doing the Paramount studio tour and the Academy Museum. We wanted to do Warner Brothers, but they were sold out for our dates. We don’t have a lot of flexibility on the trip because we’re also doing the San Diego Zoo Safari and three days at Disneyland.
You’re literally doing my drew m California trip lol
 

PerGron

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Original Poster
Well friends, It's certainly been a year for movies. I think some really phenomenal stuff came out this year, but some garbage did too. Now, I know we have a couple more days left of 2025 and technically I could squeeze in a few more, but with full transparency and also at risk of oversharing, this month has been especially rough and if I'm being honest, I just am not in the right headspace to watch movies right now.

Early on in the month after I came home from seeing Hamnet, I caught my girlfriend of four years cheating on me with her trainer and while I'm trying to act like I'm taking it well, I absolutely am not, so if I haven't been participating much including here, in the ongoing game, and just in general. I'm working on it, but that led me to breaking our lease on a house and having to pay it out, moving back in with my parents for a while, and just overall not doing particularly well. I don't have a lot of outlets to vent as my friends are straight dudes and as you may imagine, none of us are exactly the "talk about our feelings" kind. So yeah, that's where my month has been, but I do hope you all had a happy holidays and I look forward to 2026 being better because I'm not exactly sure how it could get worse. (Not a challenge, please universe, spare me).

Anywho, emotional rambling over, I did still manage 15 movies this month giving me a grand total of 282 new releases for the year 2025. Maybe one or two more will sneak in there, but I finished Twinless today and so my backlog is mostly just slop and I don't really want to put myself through it in this headspace. So without further ado...

#15- Five Nights at Freddy's 2
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[Watched in theaters]

This was an awful experience. It's entirely comprised of easter eggs for fans and if you're a fan and you enjoyed looking at all the things you recognize, good on ya and I hope you had fun, but as someone who has never played one of these games, this movie did NOT convince me I should. The acting was bad and stilted, none of the character motivations made sense, Josh Hutcherson had NOTHING to do the entire time, and more of this movie was dedicated to a science fair than the Freddy's location it builds up. I did not enjoy a moment of this and the only reason it got 1 star rather than a half star for me was the practical animatronics, keep that going but maybe make the movie good too next time?

#14- The First Snow of Fraggle Rock
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[Watched on Apple TV+]

This is a 30 minute special for little kids so I can't really say it's awful, I'm just very much not the target audience. I've never been a Fraggle Rock guy anyway, but my mom and uncle were Fraggle Rock kids so we put this on Christmas Eve and so since I watched it, might as well count it.

#13- Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Last Straw
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[Watched on Disney+]

Watched this one with my little cousin, he really enjoyed it. I didn't. It's got some cute enough moments and I remember liking the book when I was a kid, but again, I'm very much not the target demographic for this movie so I can't just say "it's bad" because I think it's harmless, just not for me. The animation style is HORRENDOUS though, I'll never get over how bad these are.

#12- Oh. What. Fun.
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[Watched on Prime Video]

This had a pretty stacked cast, but very much felt like a straight to streaming Christmas movie. It has a lot of references to things like Home Alone and Christmas Vacation amongst others but really why would you watch this over any of those anyway?

#11- The SpongeBob Movie: Search for SquarePants
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[Watched in theaters]

While I'm glad SpongeBob fans seem to mostly be enjoying this, I absolutely did not. It was just non-stop wall-to-wall energy and slapstick without any of the clever writing or pacing of older Bob. Again, maybe I've just aged out of this franchise and for the real Bobbers out there, I'm glad you enjoyed this, but it's a nah from me.

(part 2 coming when I'm done taking down the Christmas tree)​
 

PerGron

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#10- Anaconda
Anaconda.jpg

[Watched in theaters]

Boring, derivative, and everyone kind of just plays themselves. Paul Rudd plays Paul Rudd, Jack Black plays Jack Black, and poor Thandiwe Newton plays "girl" as that's essentially her full character arc. The snake looks terrible, but occasionally there is a funny joke here or there. I can't say it's a movie I'll ever really think about again.

#09- The Housemaid
The Housemaid.jpg

[Watched in theaters]

I was surprised that I didn't entirely hate this movie. Paul Feig has some alright movies, but I can't name many that I've truly enjoyed, and I stand by the fact Sydney Sweeney is just a really poor actress. This movie starts really formulaic, but there is a twist about halfway through the movie, then a few more smaller twists throughout that keep you engaged. Amanda Seyfried and Brandon Sklenar are actually really great in here as well. It's trashy and campy in the right way and yeah Sydney Sweeney is still a really bad actress, but I am glad we're getting mid-budget thrillers back in theaters if nothing else.

#08- Jay Kelly
Jay Kelly.jpg

[Watched on Netflix]

Jay Kelly is the definition of Oscar-bait. It's a bit pretentious, very self-indulgent and kind of thinks its sh*t doesn't stink. That said, there's a phenomenal performance here by Adam Sandler that absolutely deserves some sort of acknowledgement, and the movie is at least entertaining to watch. It's definitely not bad, just not something I'll return to any time soon.

#07- Silent Night, Deadly Night
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[Watched in theaters]

This was a fun and stupid Christmas slasher that proved to me that Venom really should have been rated-r. It's low budget and definitely feels a lot like a Hallmark movie at times, plus the love story is pretty whatever, but at the same time, it's exactly what I needed the week it came out. It's dumb, it's fun, it has some good kills, some good practical gore, and a huge scene where a dude dressed as Santa goes to town on a Nazi gathering with an ax, so that's awesome. It's definitely better than the original '80s film.

#06- Influencers
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[Watched on Shudder]

I was not aware this was a sequel when I popped it on and when that dawned on me around 30 minutes into the movie, I was worried it would take away any enjoyment, but it didn't. I actually really enjoyed this movie, it's a great horror slasher with gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss at its core. The lead actress was fantastic, the kills were fun and satisfying, and I'm actually glad I checked it out.

#05- Avatar: Fire and Ash
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[Watched in theaters]

Avatar: Fire and Ash looks stunning, I think it's the best looking of the three. I also think it took all of my issues with The Way of Water and fixed them. Not for that movie though, I actually dislike that movie even more. No, I just think this is a better more complete version of that movie and besides some lore stuff you could otherwise just jump 1-3 and skip 2 with little issue. It's a solid blockbuster though regardless.

#04- Fackham Hall
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[Watched in theaters]

The Naked Gun by way of Downton Abbey, I remember catching the trailer for this one and hoping that my Regal would get it, so when it did I had to check it out. It very much is The Naked Gun with the same amount of sheer back to back jokes packed in everywhere. Genuinely one of the funniest movies I watched all year and I recommend checking it out, especially if you like spoof comedy.

#03- Marty Supreme
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[Watched in theaters]

As hyped up as this was, I wasn’t really sure because the idea of a movie about a ping pong player just didn’t really appeal to me. This is, however, not a movie about a ping pong player, it’s a Safdie high octane stressful nightmare about a dude who consistently makes terrible decisions that get him into trouble and he also happens to play ping pong. Absolutely worth the watch.

#02- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
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[Watched on Netflix]

I LOVE the Knives Out movies and this is easily my favorite one so far. Josh O’Connor and Glenn Close are absolutely brilliant here, plus I’ll never get enough of Benoit Blanc. The mystery here is easily the most interesting of the three too and trying to solve it along with Blanc and O’Connor’s character was a blast.

#01- Hamnet
Hamnet.jpg

[Watched in theaters]

I already said it, Hamnet is a masterpiece and while I can respect people finding it too sad or whatever, for me, this really is just one of the best things to come out this year. Phenomenal performances all around, an amazing score, and an ending that had me weeping. An absolute masterpiece and I’ll die on that hill.
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Well, 2025 is over and thank God for that. This has been one of the toughest movie years since the pandemic with a few big standouts but a lot of disappointments and misses.

I’ll probably put together a list of my most anticipated 2026 movies here in the next couple days. Thanks to everyone who has enjoyed this thread this year and I’ll see yall next year with my quest to hit 365 movies again. Maybe next year will be my year?​
 

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