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MrPromey

Well-Known Member
Nope. Initialism requires multiple words. Again its abbreviation. It similar to Mr = Mister and ect. = et cetera. In some cases a period is required at the end but not always. Oh and touchdown, believe it or not but shorthand and stenoscript was probably used by your great grand parents and is still used today to some extent. I see by now I have exposed a whole high command of german grammar steppers with significant OCD. The mods are gonna be busy with this one as its gone way off topic though I doubt in the TOS we are required to maintain a college level grammar with everything perfectly written as if doing a college thesis. To the mods, Im sorry I tried to steer it back on topic but they insist on this.
Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder is one word to you? 🤔

Dude, you spelled something weird and then people had some fun with memes and you keep doubling-down for some reason. What did you expect to have happen when you take yourself so seriously on a Disney fan forum?

You keep trying to prove your point by saying other weird stuff. If you'd let it go so would everyone else. I know because I make mistakes all the time and people drop it pretty fast when I take the joke and move on. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Baloo124

Premium Member
Two simple words, “Nightmare Before Christmas Overlay”
My thoughts on this in five simple words:

Hopefully not, and this is nothing against the movie or its characters, but just the thought of the attraction being down for extended periods annually for the required set-up and removal of the overlay props and effects would not be a good thing for WDW in my opinion.
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
My thoughts on this in five simple words:

Hopefully not, and this is nothing against the movie or its characters, but just the thought of the attraction being down for extended periods annually for the required set-up and removal of the overlay props and effects would not be a good thing for WDW in my opinion.

Pretty sure that opinion is shared by TDO so I think you're safe.
 

Touchdown

Well-Known Member
Nope. Initialism requires multiple words. Again its abbreviation. It similar to Mr = Mister and ect. = et cetera. In some cases a period is required at the end but not always. Oh and touchdown, believe it or not but shorthand and stenoscript was probably used by your great grand parents and is still used today to some extent. I see by now I have exposed a whole high command of german grammar steppers with significant OCD. The mods are gonna be busy with this one as its gone way off topic though I doubt in the TOS we are required to maintain a college level grammar with everything perfectly written as if doing a college thesis. To the mods, Im sorry I tried to steer it back on topic but they insist on this.
The lengths you are going to not admit you misspelled a word are really impressive. I suck at spelling, I don’t have a problem admitting that. Que is word in French, not English. My sentence structure skills are also extremely questionable. Trust me I’m not a “grammar Nazi.” When I read that my brain thinks you are attempting Franglish. I don’t just read Disney stuff, I’m a huge coaster nerd where we talk about queues all the time, you are the first person who is trying to make que a thing, it’s not. You want a shorter word for queue, may I suggest line.
 

Baron Von Capybara

Thank you sir. You were an inspiration.
Premium Member
My thoughts on this in five simple words:

Hopefully not, and this is nothing against the movie or its characters, but just the thought of the attraction being down for extended periods annually for the required set-up and removal of the overlay props and effects would not be a good thing for WDW in my opinion.
That was 6 words 🙄
 
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JohnD

Well-Known Member
Actually you are misunderstanding what force of habit is. Force of habit has nothing to do with forcing yourself to spell everything correctly as technically that is something you choose to do. Force of habit comes not out of choice but rather something that is done so often that you instinctively do it without ever thinking about it. For example, when playing poker some people carefully watch other people to see how they react to certain cards. When someone receives a positive stimulus they often smile or do various other actions. The same goes for negative stimulus. These are referred to as tells as they are very telling of what kind of cards they have received. On average a normal person can have dozens of forces of habit that may not even seem noticeable to ourselves but to others we notice it. Like why do some people fold the toilet paper while others wad it. That is the essence of force of habit. Even the simplest of things can become force of habit. You may not even consciously think about it but you will do it regardless. This is something that your mind has learned to do because as a habit you did it so much that it literally becomes almost muscle memory. Now how is that different from spelling everything correctly? When we write everything we write we choose by our own choice how to spell some things but that is only to a certain extent controlled by our own natural ability to correct ourselves if we notice a spelling mistake. A force of habit on the other hand forces you to ignore that spelling error and just continue on regardless. You are choosing to correct your grammar but that is because you may not have a force of habit connected to a specific word. Then again that could be a lie on your part as many people forcibly misspell certain words all time time repeatedly. This is why spell check is often one of the most essential tools that people have at all times. The reason why I do not have one is because it causes conflicts with some of my other addons for my browser. There is a built in one but it is not always accurate either thus I tend to rely on my own intuition on what is and isn't proper spelling.

As for que, you don't know your history well do you? The use of abbreviations on the internet and in communication in general goes back centuries. Take cellular text messaging for example. We all in this modern age now enjoy the wonderful freedom of unlimited data and text but in the early days of cellular communication there was actually a limit on how much text data was allowed. In some cases just a paragraph or two could actually be a little costly. To resolve this many people resorted to communication using abbreviated text as a way to reduce the amount of text data required. The more they abbreviated the more texting allowed without breaking the bank. It goes back even further than that. Ever heard of a telegram or a telegraph? They also used abbreviations as their texting limitations were even more limited thus telegraph operators even had to create their own abbreviations for whole sentences and made an actual code system just to cover certain common phrases. Look up telegram style. You will see what I mean. Now if you are absolutely insistent that I have to use that extra ue just to satisfy your ocd you are welcome to try but I notice you are not correcting everyone else every where all the time which indicates to me you are just doing this for laughs. Hey I enjoy a good laugh too but I feel this is getting off topic so I will try to at least put something in that actually goes back on topic.

I suspect the que....queue will likely be quite a fair bit different from the design we have seen thus far. When disney created the original queue they were limited by space and thus had to go with the design they have now but disney has shown in the past that when they have had the opportunity to change a design with a better one they often choose a slightly different more eleborate design. Peter pan and winne the pooh, got significant changes to their queue so I suspect when and if they do make such a change it will be far different than the design we have thus far. Perhaps it may be more a cemetary style que with indoor mauseleums as well as interactive grave sites. Sure we will probably see some of those same props from the current design but over a more spread out area instead of just tightly clustered together. The best way to confirm if this will be happening is if there is any announcements for renovations to haunted mansion as villains land nears completion. If this happens followed by demolition in the proximity to the building then we will know there is changes incoming to queue. Just for you I tried to correct my force of habit but I will admit I left one just for old times sake.
All this for que vs. queue?
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
It’s a question almost as old as time itself–is it que or queue? Or maybe it’s cue. The good news is that all three options are real words. The bad news is that they’re not interchangeable and you need to know the difference. In fact, one of them only works if you’re speaking Spanish.

If you’re looking to use a queue management system in your stores, the first thing to know is whether you’re spelling queue correctly. You don’t want to fall at the first hurdle because of a lousy misspelling. So, without further ado, let’s clear a few things up.

Que vs Queue​

Whether you should use the spelling queue or que ultimately depends on the context. For instance, if you’re trying to talk about people waiting in line, the word is queue. (“Louise waited in a virtual queue to speak to a fashion expert”).

The word queue originates from the Old French word cue, coe or queue, translating as “tail”. It’s easy to see how we reached the phrase “queueing in line” then, although “queueing in tail” would admittedly have been more fun.

Qué, however, is the Spanish word for “what”. Que is also an abbreviation for Quebec. That said, these likely aren’t the words you’re looking for unless you’re trying to showcase your world knowledge. Que is a homophone, meaning that it’s a word that sounds like many other words, even though the spelling is different.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
Nobody bats an eye because that's not an abbreviation, it's an initialism (though it would normally be done with capital letters). It's like saying FBI or NBC - each letter is the first initial of a word. That's not the same thing as misspelling a word as another word intended as some sort of shorthand at all.

Just sayin' 🤷‍♂️
I could post a diatribe about acronyms vs initialisms, but I think it's OK to just call it a day. Points were made, points were rebutted, points were ground down, and it all got pretty dull in the exchange. KWIM?

To keep on topic, BLUF, the queue area has been contentious ever since it was installed -- purists bemoan the foreshadowing aspect of having haunted stuff outside the mansion, while most tourists just kind of like having something to play with while they're waiting to meet the Ghost Host. Others find the whole thing bemusing.

Put me in the bemused category.
 

EPCOTCenterLover

Well-Known Member
I really wish they'd stop "improving" the mansion and channel some of that lower budget energy to attractions that could actually use it like Peter Pan's Flight (will we ever get the 20 year old DL upgrades?), the show scenes in People Mover including the now pitch black Space Mountain segment, etc.

I get that everyone and their brother would like to be able to add HM to their resume but enough's enough.
I'd say the only improvement in Florida's Mansion since 1971 has been the Madam Leota tombstone in front of the side doors to go into the attraction.
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
I'd say the only improvement in Florida's Mansion since 1971 has been the Madam Leota tombstone in front of the side doors to go into the attraction.
I can sort of get behind the stairways to nowhere at the start.

The jiggling spiderweb scene it replaced always looked kind of less-than-Spirit-Haloween to me. I know there's not a lot of space to work with there so while I have no emotions for the stairs at all, I see what they did there with mirrors to make the space look far larger than it is as a legit, if nonsensical, upgrade.

... and I'll admit that the wallpaper eyes turning into glowing eyes gag was subtle and well done.
 
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MrPromey

Well-Known Member
I could post a diatribe about acronyms vs initialisms, but I think it's OK to just call it a day. Points were made, points were rebutted, points were ground down, and it all got pretty dull in the exchange. KWIM?

To keep on topic, BLUF, the queue area has been contentious ever since it was installed -- purists bemoan the foreshadowing aspect of having haunted stuff outside the mansion, while most tourists just kind of like having something to play with while they're waiting to meet the Ghost Host. Others find the whole thing bemusing.

Put me in the bemused category.

You know, they tried. 🤷‍♂️

It's funny because I feel like all of that would have worked a lot better at the exit to the ride rather than in the queue. Like if it were an optional interactive area people could explore at their leisure or completely walk straight through the middle of and ignore, it would have been better.

But of course, that would have done nothing to help the standby problems they created when they added FP, there.
 

Comped

Well-Known Member
DL does not have to worry about this because of the amount of local repeat business they have.
WDW has, ironically, also had an increase of local APs visiting over the past 5-10 years to the point where it's no longer as true as it once was that one time visitors, or infrequent international visitors, are 80+% of the visitor mix like once claimed.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
WDW has, ironically, also had an increase of local APs visiting over the past 5-10 years to the point where it's no longer as true as it once was that one time visitors, or infrequent international visitors, are 80+% of the visitor mix like once claimed.
Be Quiet Cut It Out GIF


Don't say things like that or you'll summon... Donnie. No one wants that. :cautious:
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
To keep on topic, BLUF, the queue area has been contentious ever since it was installed -- purists bemoan the foreshadowing aspect of having haunted stuff outside the mansion, while most tourists just kind of like having something to play with while they're waiting to meet the Ghost Host. Others find the whole thing bemusing.
The interactive queue also has the same practical problems that most interactive queues have, name, people stopping to interact creating gaps in the line.

The other problem is specific to HM, namely, not loading guests into the parlor for a full experience before moving them into the stretching room. This creates a continuously moving queue. And that leads to exacerbating the problem in the first paragraph above.
 

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