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3D-printed prop canoe arriving soon at Jungle Cruise

DCBaker

Premium Member
Original Poster
Walt Disney Imagineering is collaborating with Haddy, a 3D-printing business based in Florida, to create set pieces for attractions in Disney theme parks and one of them will soon arrive at Jungle Cruise.

Details from CNET:

"Haddy, a 3D-printing business based in Florida, says it can build worlds. More specifically, Jay Rogers, co-founder and CEO, tells me the company is installing its first boat in a Disney park.

"It's in the Jungle Cruise ride," he says during Disney Demo Day at Walt Disney Studios in Burbank, California, last month.

3D printing burst onto the scene in the mid-2010s. These printers take little pellets or strands of polymer or liquid resin and turn them into fully fleshed-out designs, like the purple toy octopus and Prada purse that my 3-year-old daughter got from her Uncle Zach for her recent birthday. Using a digital file, you can send a project to the printer to produce -- whether it's a small octopus or an armchair.

You can buy small 3D printers, priced between $180 and $400, for home projects, while larger operations require enormous machines that churn out items as big as cafe counters and even houses.

And, yes, boats.

Haddy's Jungle Cruise boat is a prop canoe that will be placed on the ride soon, where it'll become part of the scenic journey alongside those fake animals on the banks of the Amazon-Congo-Nile-Mekong river.

Walt Disney Imagineering collaborated closely with the Haddy team to adapt the plans for the boat, ensuring it captured the spirit of the existing props while using 3D-printing technology.

Founded in 2022, Haddy creates home decor like planters, and furniture like outdoor benches, chairs and tables. Its gig of working with Disney's Imagineers came about after it was selected as one of the four startups to receive financing, platforming and mentoring via the 2025 Disney Accelerator Program.

Rogers says Haddy can quickly transform imagination into reality, saving a lot of time (and presumably money -- the companies wouldn't provide specifics). This is in addition to being able to recycle any 3D-printed material for new objects, because once a prop reaches the end of its life, it can be melted down and 3D-printed again into something new.

A 20-foot boat made by a traditional boat-maker can take one thousand human hours, but not so for the Jungle Cruise canoe prop, Rogers says. "It's not just faster to make, it's faster to develop."

He describes the traditional process, which unfolds over weeks and months: designing the boat, creating and securing a master mold, repeating the mold-making process an average of 30 times per boat and then manufacturing the parts that go onto the boat.

By comparison, it would take Haddy 70 robot hours in manufacturing. Both processes use a digital file as a starting point. The difference is that Haddy can simply make tweaks to the file and reprint the boat if there are any problems with the final product -- no more mold-making necessary.

Still, how much of the whimsy remains? Can a 3D-printed boat evoke the same feelings of nostalgia and fantasy as the ride's existing set pieces?

During Disney's Demo Day, I spot what appears to be a wrought iron fence leaning against a tree, and Rogers says it was 3D-printed. Maybe guests won't even notice if a boat is made of polymer instead of fiberglass-reinforced plastic, and printed by a robot.

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Even the light fixtures in the Main Theatre at Walt Disney Studios, where I had just watched a video showcasing various new technologies being used by startups backed by Disney, were made by Haddy for this event. (I had assumed the intricate, glowing blue lights were a remnant of when Frozen 2 was being workshopped in the theater.)

Perhaps 3D-printed objects have a whimsy of their own? CNET Senior Editor James Bricknell, an expert on 3D printing, says yes. The canoe would not only have all the whimsy that an Imagineer can conjure, but would also be manufactured faster and in a far less expensive way -- and would definitely float.

"It's a brilliant idea," Bricknell says. "You can make them look any way you like, just like the normal boats, but instead of injection molding, you can make each one individual for much less cost."

Disney's Imagineers are continually seeking new technologies to incorporate into the parks and on Disney cruise ships.

Walt Disney Imagineering is "the tip of the spear when it comes to emerging technologies" like AI, robotics and drones, according to Michael Hundgen, portfolio executive creative producer of Walt Disney Imagineering.

With Haddy, Imagineers are exploring the creation of set pieces for attractions in Disney's theme parks. Beyond the Jungle Cruise, these products could also include closet doors from Monstropolis -- for the new Monsters, Inc. ride being constructed at Walt Disney World -- and rock work for various lands, such as Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge. There might even be the creation of furniture for thousands of hotel rooms across the Orlando property.

"We're not just creating technology for technology's sake; we're doing it to help our creative teams bring the stories from the company to life," Hundgen says.

So now it's out with the fiberglass-reinforced plastic and in with the polymer pellets. We'll have to see whether guests truly can tell the difference between the old props and the new."

Full article at this link: https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/disney-3d-printed-polymer-prop-canoe-jungle-cruise/
 

MrPromey

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That part how it'll definitely float is kind of funny. The kind of additive prints they're describing are notoriously porous.. Of course, if you coat it in something like epoxy after, that won't matter.

But that's really kind of the big thing. If they're just 3D printing to get the structure/shape and then planning to go to town with painting, modding and adding accoutrements to what comes out after, then yeah, it can produce just about anything and probably a lot lighter than fiberglass since it can be produced with minimal inflill while printing rather than needing a denser foam core to support it.
 
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MrPromey

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Seems a big old splashy article for placing one prop in a ride? I’d presume they’d been using 3D printing anyway?

Honestly, this feels more like a fluff piece for the company making the prop than it does for Disney, specifically and it popping up on CNET suggests it was probably an interest piece in the maker community. We always get a tickle out of seeing our processes used for real-world projects.
 

Epcot82Guy

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Obviously the devil is in the details in application, but I think this has great potential. Especially for things viewed at a distance. If they start trying to 3D print lighting fixtures or architectural things that really need a bit more "heft" to them, we can chat... But, this seems like a cool use of a new technology to help create more immersion (in theory, at least). That feels very much in the vein of what Imagineering has always done.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I don't see how this is a negative. It's just a different way of production. And artist just creates it in a 3d space. Which is what happens with most fiberglass props these days anyway, before they get built. And a lot of time that's just the base, an artist will still finish it.
I'm sure some purist with have an issue with it because its not doing it by hand, but yeah it should just be seen as another tool in the toolbox of WDI.
 

mickEblu

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Obviously the devil is in the details in application, but I think this has great potential. Especially for things viewed at a distance. If they start trying to 3D print lighting fixtures or architectural things that really need a bit more "heft" to them, we can chat... But, this seems like a cool use of a new technology to help create more immersion (in theory, at least). That feels very much in the vein of what Imagineering has always done.

This feels like when Disney switched over to the xerox process with 101 Dalmatians. Yes it’s cheaper and more efficient but the end result is also not as rich or detailed.
 

MrPromey

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I'm sure some purist with have an issue with it because its not doing it by hand, but yeah it should just be seen as another tool in the toolbox of WDI.
3D printing is generally not an efficient process for making things in volume. It's also has limitations in the materials that can be used though commercial range where they can even do metal is much wider than consumer.

Disney has long used computer aid both in design and in construction so this isn't a whole lot different. I have to imagine that the basic structure will come out of the printer and that they'll be airbrushing it and doing other work to it after, anyway.
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
This feels like when Disney switched over to the xerox process with 101 Dalmatians. Yes it’s cheaper and more efficient but the end result is also not as rich or detailed.
It can be more "rich and detailed" than most conventional methods and if you're expecting them to just spit out a print and drop it in somewhere, there will likely be plenty of post processing and additional work done to make it look appropriate - just like would be done to something similar made from a fiberglass material.

The fact that you can easily make every single base shape unique (something not practical with traditional mold techniques) actually opens up more opportunities for richness.

To me this is like saying they're working with a new method to make the structures of their "mountains" going forward. They'd still likely be up there slinging cement by hand to add texture and painting by hand but something different is going on with how they make the piece that sits under all of that.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
3D printing is generally not an efficient process for making things in volume. It's also has limitations in the materials that can be used though commercial range where they can even do metal is much wider than consumer.

Disney has long used computer aid both in design and in construction so this isn't a whole lot different. I have to imagine that the basic structure will come out of the printer and that they'll be airbrushing it and doing other work to it after, anyway.
Except this wouldn't be making things in volume. This would be for one-off props or parts, and at most a few of the same piece are made for the different iterations of an attraction. They aren't using this for mass production of items for guests to buy for example, though I do know a few people who do just that and make 1000s for sale on Amazon.

But as I said this is just another tools in the WDI toolbox.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
It can be more "rich and detailed" than most conventional methods and if you're expecting them to just spit out a print and drop it in somewhere, there will likely be plenty of post processing and additional work done to make it look appropriate - just like would be done to something similar made from a fiberglass material.

The fact that you can easily make every single base shape unique (something not practical with traditional mold techniques) actually opens up more opportunities for richness.

To me this is like saying they're working with a new method to make the structures of their "mountains" going forward. They'd still likely be up there slinging cement by hand to add texture and painting by hand but something different is going on with how they make the piece that sits under all of that.

Sounds like you probably know more about this than I do. My thought process was that you’d be at disadvantage starting with a 3D printed mold as the base and have to need someone very talented to doctor it up and bring it up to par. For example the wrought iron work in NOS. Can you achieve that level of quality/ authenticity with this method? Would they even use this for something like that?
 

mickEblu

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Judge for yourself, they gave this as an example in the article -

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It does come across a tad bit Home Depot or plasticky to me but I don’t know if that’s because I know that it’s not authentic or because I have a great eye. Honestly don’t know. Perhaps I’m also being influenced by the Mickey and castle design in the middle. Maybe it would pass somewhere on the second story of NOS.
 
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Disney Irish

Premium Member
It does come across a tad bit Home Depot or plasticky to me but I don’t know if that’s because I know that it’s not real . Or because I have a great eye. Honestly don’t know. Perhaps I’m also being influenced by the Mickey and castle design in the middle. Maybe it would pass somewhere on the second story of NOS.
It could also be the picture itself, as seeing these in person makes a difference. 3D printers 100% can print using metal materials, so a wrought iron fence would look and feel the same as if it was done by hand. In fact most wrought iron fence is no longer handmade now a days anyways, its all mass produced (mostly stamped), so you really wouldn't be able to tell the difference in most cases.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
It could also be the picture itself, as seeing these in person makes a difference. 3D printers 100% can print using metal materials, so a wrought iron fence would look and feel the same as if it was done by hand. In fact most wrought iron fence is no longer handmade now a days anyways, its all mass produced (mostly stamped), so you really wouldn't be able to tell the difference in most cases.

Yeah I guess there is no use comparing to the old ways- procuring authentic antiques or using authentic materials like they did with some of the lamp posts on Main Street or making the iron work in NOS. I don’t care what they do. I just don’t want to notice. And unfortunately in some instances we re noticing. The fiberglass Home Depot HM store is the worst offender but even some of the props in the HM outdoor queue like of come across as Home Depot-y to me.
 

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