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DHS Disney Confirms Muppets Take Over Rock 'n' Roller Coaster at Hollywood Studios

mattpeto

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How does the community here overvalue it?
We are not the common guest. We appreciate art, historical significance and value nostalgia.

It’s why we want to keep everything ultimately and hold on to it all.

To the typical guest, Muppets was considered underutilized (and so was it’s land)

So was TSI. So was Dino-rama and Dinosaur.

Splash is the one anomaly but had different PC factors.
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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I’m not caught up so apologies if this has already been discussed- but have people heard the rumor that the ride itself won’t be changed much if at all? According to inside sources the majority of the changes are purely the queue and preshow, with the flat cardboard cut outs from 1999 being left untouched.

I hope this is false, cause it would come off so cheap if it’s exactly the same but with different music. They still have that PizzeRizzo sign sitting around, why not put that in the ride in place of a billboard?
 

Marc Davis Fan

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I’m not caught up so apologies if this has already been discussed- but have people heard the rumor that the ride itself won’t be changed much if at all? According to inside sources the majority of the changes are purely the queue and preshow, with the flat cardboard cut outs from 1999 being left untouched.

I hope this is false, cause it would come off so cheap if it’s exactly the same but with different music. They still have that PizzeRizzo sign sitting around, why not put that in the ride in place of a billboard?
The materials/indications suggest that the on-ride set pieces will be "Muppetized" - but how much change that actually involves, we do not know.

I agree with you that it would be very disappointing to retain the same cheap "cardboard cutouts" look - and I fear it won't be far from that (maybe more detail and dimensionality?).

The sliver of positivity is that, by changing the theme from a human band to Muppets, it changes the expectations from realism to allowing more "metaphysical" leeway - so perhaps the sets (and the "limo" being on an obvious track) won't be as jarring?
 

James Alucobond

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Does the big globe in guardians look any better than the Hollywood sign in rock n?
The Hollywood sign (and the other street signage, for that matter) isn't really the bad part since they're replicating something already flat. It's the trees and buildings that always stick out to me as looking especially cheap, and yes, they're way worse than the Cosmic Rewind moon.
 

BlindChow

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I agree with you that it would be very disappointing to retain the same cheap "cardboard cutouts" look - and I fear it won't be far from that (maybe more detail and dimensionality?).
The cardboard cut-outs would actually fit a Muppets attraction better, in my opinion. I mean, it's basically a scene from the original Muppet Movie:

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Perhaps they will tweak a few of the flats. (It would be great to get a Gonzo dangling from a set of balloons, even if it was a static figure.)
 

Brer Panther

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If they're really so insistent on not putting MuppetVision in the theater nearby, they could at least put those Statler and Waldorf animatronics somewhere in the ride (like just before the unload or something).
 

jah4955

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If they're really so insistent on not putting MuppetVision in the theater nearby, they could at least put those Statler and Waldorf animatronics somewhere in the ride (like just before the unload or something).
Disney DOES have the deep tradition of doing things like that. And it'd be cool. But I'd rather have MV3D back.

Nb: I did suspect something similar as the penguins in the (soon to be) opening could indeed come from the Orchestra pit.
 
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UNCgolf

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I LOVE Horizons but it was getting a tad dated. Disney deliberately sabatoged the line to Imagination

Horizons is one of my favorite attractions ever but it showcased a very 1980s vision of the future; they'd have needed to completely overhaul all of the future living scenes (the best part of the ride) at the very least because of how distinctly 80s they were.

The other original EPCOT attractions had things that would have eventually needed updating, but generally not to the same extent.
 
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TheDisneyParksfanC8

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It's sad to what happen to then DCA version..A reddit post shows how they covered up the majority of Piggy statues and and Bean Bunny on the side of the stage..

For a while I thought the Miss Piggy columns were outright removed when the theater was converted for the Frozen singalong. interesting to see they are still there. As for the pipe in pics 4 and 5, im assuming that was for the frozen singalong when Elsa would sign "let it go"
 

flyerjab

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Do you personally enjoy laugh floor more than muppet vision? I don’t particularly dislike it - some of the equity actors are quite funny so it’s got that going for it.

Personally I still miss timekeeper!
Repeat riding is an interesting subject. I think for true Epcot purists, re-riding the slow moving, edutainment people mover rides is a peak experience for them. This is what Imagineering and Disney is supposed to be.

For other people, those types of rides can only be ridden so many times. They prefer Cosmic Rewind or Tron or BTM. Thrill ride fans can ride coasters over and over and never tire of them.

One thing for me is a show like MV3D. I can absolutely appreciate that show. But I also can only see it every so often because it gets boring after too many times. Humor is tricky for me. Once I know the jokes it becomes less and less enjoyable on repeat viewing. And this wasn’t a “masterpiece “ in my opinion. It was a good show, but I didn’t walk out after seeing it the first time thinking “wow, this should be preserved on one of the Voyager probes that are sent into deep space!” And I know that it was Jim Henson’s last project. But for me, this falls into the oft quoted “the Disney parks are not a museum.” I mean, 30 years? It’s been preserved for 3 decades. I feel that it was a respectable run. But for me, a theme park is not the place to maintain a decades old show, especially if it isn’t pulling people in like it used to. Even museums replace displays after so many years.
 

jah4955

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Repeat riding is an interesting subject. I think for true Epcot purists, re-riding the slow moving, edutainment people mover rides is a peak experience for them. This is what Imagineering and Disney is supposed to be.

For other people, those types of rides can only be ridden so many times. They prefer Cosmic Rewind or Tron or BTM. Thrill ride fans can ride coasters over and over and never tire of them.

One thing for me is a show like MV3D. I can absolutely appreciate that show. But I also can only see it every so often because it gets boring after too many times. Humor is tricky for me. Once I know the jokes it becomes less and less enjoyable on repeat viewing. And this wasn’t a “masterpiece “ in my opinion. It was a good show, but I didn’t walk out after seeing it the first time thinking “wow, this should be preserved on one of the Voyager probes that are sent into deep space!” And I know that it was Jim Henson’s last project. But for me, this falls into the oft quoted “the Disney parks are not a museum.” I mean, 30 years? It’s been preserved for 3 decades. I feel that it was a respectable run. But for me, a theme park is not the place to maintain a decades old show, especially if it isn’t pulling people in like it used to. Even museums replace displays after so many years.
Absolutely perfect assessment of everything in every way imo.

For example, 1991 was Bean's "peak" popularity [and don't get me started on Waldo]. If you don't count a Bean-like character in one of the very last episodes, he wasn't even in The Muppet Show. Aside from cameos, has Bean done anything the last 30+ years?

Again, it's a great show, but I remember being bored of it by the mid-90's. (but Swedish Chef didn't work most of the times I went)

But it's become more special as time passed because of the original performers...like a time capsule of the arguably-very-tail-end of Muppets' peak....which hasn't been matched since.

It's been thoroughly established by now....thrills are the unqualified priority (and the + of thrill attractions is that they tend to be high-capacity)...and "there's no going back now,"..... but it doesn't mean Disney isn't trying to incorporate the best elements of their halcyon days into the future projects.

I offer TT 3.0 is an example (although I haven't ridden it, I certainly "felt" WoM (& Horizons) vibes watching the POV).

As I've echoed frequently, here's hoping, for some (timeless) WOWs with at least some the various projects now in the works.
 
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