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EPCOT Remy's Ratatouille Adventure to transition to 2D with brief refurbishment in November 2025
- Thread starter DCBaker
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Well obviously. I mean they closed MuppetVision just because they didn't want to clean up the projectors.
Casper Gutman
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If we’re going with this, I don’t want to see a single poster defending the new wave of restrictive rides like Tron and Avatar and about half of what they’re currently building. Accessibility has been dismissed by a lot of the pro-Disney posters here, it’s the height of dishonesty to embrace it now strictly as a defense of Disney cost-cutting.
Casper Gutman
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I hope it’s converted entirely to 2D -a flat, empty plot of land ready to be developed into something worthwhile.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
I wouldn’t say this is 100% cost cutting. Let’s save that criticism to actual cost cutting - like the cuts to live entertainment and lackluster AA counts in new attractions like frozen, Tiana and mermaid.
Stupido
Well-Known Member
Tron has adaptive seats so that everyone can ride. Is there an issue with Avatar? I haven't heard much about people not getting on. I'm 6'9" so I know height isn't an issue.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Prolly whatever would result in maximum cost reduction combine with maximum ticket and LL fee increases?
Smaller crowds require sacrifices to stay above redline
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I’m looking forward to this change. Remy is always a skip for me. We’ve done it once and it’s honestly my least favorite ride in World Showcase. The 3D never really popped for me and it’s hard if you’re wearing glasses already. I’m more inclined to ride with 2D and extra props (whatever that may be.) Making it more accessible never hurts either.
AidenRodriguez731
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I've known 1 person who couldn't get on because their size. I have a little trouble but a cast member has always been able to secure me in fine.
I do wish there was an accessible seat added to every few rows perhaps?
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
Avatar and its unique restraint is quite restrictive - to larger guests, older guests who can’t bend easily, guests with physical restrictions. The only thing that makes Tron special is the seating position. Without that it’s a very short, very lackluster Space Mtn rip off. It’s very poorly designed.
Disney used to be incredible at designing thrill rides that can accommodate almost anyone. Then they stopped trying. The result was NOT better rides. Tron is exponentially inferior to Twilight Zone, for instance.
People complaining about having to remove the glasses to view the physical props in Rat confuse me. The physical props matter less then in any other ride in Orlando save Toy Story. They matter much less then in Kong or Spidey or Muppets. Rat is a screen ride. It was designed to be a screen ride. The props are immaterial.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
Just as in Tron, an accessible seat doesn’t make a lot of sense because the seating largely IS the attraction. Draw your own conclusions about novelty seating as a design philosophy.
James Alucobond
Well-Known Member
I think this is slightly reductive. I don't think TRON is the best attraction ever and am not defending it specifically, but vehicle and track design can together produce sensation and effect that go beyond novelty. For TRON, it's about feeling like you're on a lightcycle, not the fact that the vehicle design looks like and/or positions you as if you were on a lightcycle. Obviously, positioning is part of the feeling, but I think it goes beyond that. You could be similarly dismissive of Peter Pan's Flight as a classic busbar ride with "novelty seating", but part of the reason it produces a unique memory relative to other Fantasyland classics is because of the effect the vehicle and track produce.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Might be a tad too “deep” on this one, Jacques Cousteau
AidenRodriguez731
Well-Known Member
Idk I had an absolute blast on the modified seating personally so
JohnD
Well-Known Member
So I rode it 3D for the last time today. I don't think I'll really miss it. It was nice but the only real 3D to me was the Chef at the start of the ride. Also the glasses limit your field of vision. You'll be able to see more in your peripheral vision in 2D. I think it will be a good change.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
The ride is designed for guests with limited peripheral vision - the glasses worked as frames for what you’re supposed to see.
Biff215
Well-Known Member
That’s exactly my concern. To me the glasses help to blend the screens with the physical props. I fear now it will just be more obvious that you’re driving up to a screen.
It is, rode it in France, preferred the 3D.That’s exactly my concern. To me the glasses help to blend the screens with the physical props. I fear now it will just be more obvious that you’re driving up to a screen.
JohnD
Well-Known Member
I don't know. I'm wearing glasses on top of my glasses. I found myself having to make sure I kept my eyes inside of the provided frames rather than look around.