Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I remember the guy who said that…
It was never me…but he was like a mushroom who buys everyone a drink at the bar…
…a real FUNGHI to have around
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It was never me…but he was like a mushroom who buys everyone a drink at the bar…
…a real FUNGHI to have around
Chi84
Premium Member
I’ve been seeing the “nothing to see here” meme since I joined 8 years ago.
Maybe there really is nothing to see here.
Disney raises prices: Disney is greedy and this will chase everyone away and Disney will very very very soon completely collapse.
Disney lowers prices with a discount: Disney has chased everyone away and is desperately trying to get people into the parks and Disney will very very very soon completely collapse.
BTW, in case it's lost on anyone... Disney's been raising prices and also offering discounts for the past several decades. So...
Disney lowers prices with a discount: Disney has chased everyone away and is desperately trying to get people into the parks and Disney will very very very soon completely collapse.
BTW, in case it's lost on anyone... Disney's been raising prices and also offering discounts for the past several decades. So...
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Good job…you just identified two things that are true…except the “collapse” part which is projection by dust addicts
Here’s a fish
Chi84
Premium Member
In fairness, I think what they are saying is the current decisions being made by Disney are unsustainable in the long run, which may be true. The long run for Disney truly is long.
My thought is that Disney will adjust as necessary and that it will do so in plenty of time. But it is never, ever, going to go back to what the people addicted to the original Disney want it to be. You really can't "go home again" at this point.
In the meantime, the silly hysteria over every price increase and discount is - as you have noted - meaningless.
mattpeto
Well-Known Member
I'm sure there are elements of bookings being softer than 2019 standards, I personally just don't see the Florida resident one being "OMG - this is it, they are closing Animal Kingdom".
I think there is more evidence that bookings are considerably softer at table service restaurants. It's quite easy to get day-of ADRs and the dining plan offers (including children are free in 2026) should raise some eyebrows that guests are being more mindful of their spending and transitioning to quick-service meals or putting their extra dollars towards previously complimented perks (lightning lanes, magicbands, aiport transfers). That's something way more interesting to me than the Florida 3 day ticket.
Chi84
Premium Member
I wonder if one big reason is the perception that you have to get the most for your money with LLs and that "wasting time" at table service restaurants cuts into that.
I remember the days when you could get into all but one or two of the most popular places (LeCellier comes to mind) just by visiting a kiosk on the day of dining.
One thing we have gravitated to is the lounges instead of full table service. Nomad Lounge, for instance. Great food and you just have to put your name on a waitlist.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…still looking for someone to slightly hint…let alone outright say this?
…until then…watch out for the witch, scarecrow
As far as “strength of bookings”…That is 100% arbitrary.
It’s not financial data…is not regulated…nobody would notice EVEN if it were…
Go back and find when they have publicly admitted things suck…or even slightly suck without 3 excuses?
It’s been a while…evil Michael would begrudgingly do it when it was obvious
Big shot Bobby has been lying his 2 foot off the ground @!$ off without license nor pause.
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TheMaxRebo
Well-Known Member
Not just LL cost but costs in general making people feel like they have to maximize their park time (especially if now going less often or maybe going for fewer days) and this can't "afford to waste" 1.5 hours at a TS meal
And also the cost of them - I think switching a couple of TS to QS to cover the cost of LLs and/or transport from MCO is one of the easiest ways to adjust you budget
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Agreed…and not
Particularly great for the bottomline. Len has commented on this trend in other threads
You never want to rob yourself to make money
Chi84
Premium Member
It’s not just the costs. There’s so much to do at WDW that people have a difficult time accomplishing all they want to do.
The fact that Disney has become so expensive has people thinking in terms of money instead of enjoyment. To me, that’s the biggest loss from what Disney used to be.
We’ve visited so many times that we think nothing of spending time at a water park, a few hours at a theme park and then going to a resort restaurant for dinner.
First timers/infrequent visitors feel too much pressure to go on every ride and see every show. They miss the quiet moments and small details that used to define WDW. So those things become less popular and subject to replacement.
Disney has been heading in this direction for some time now and people are responding as expected. I don’t see this changing.
There's also all those local, AP-holding freeloaders who come in with their brick-pack juice boxes and bread-loaf bags full of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches...
Chi84
Premium Member
I thought they stop by the resorts to pick up the jelly packets you can find with the breakfast condiments. They used to take the peanut butter too until Disney stopped putting them out.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
Christmas Day at Magic Kingdom is $200. For almost the same price, you get three days at three parks, two days before Christmas. I’m sure that’s a good deal for some people!
Going to be staying on property, and I am a Florida resident, but like last year, I don’t think I’m going to have park tickets.
Going to be staying on property, and I am a Florida resident, but like last year, I don’t think I’m going to have park tickets.
It is a fact that attendance is down compared to 2019 levels.
But 2019 levels were making the parks (i.e. MK) feel overcrowded. Both Bobs spoke in quarterly reports how the overcrowded feeling depressed GSATs and how they're trying to reverse that.
First step was to keep raising prices to find a tipping point that would reduce demand. But each price increase failed to reduce attendance numbers.
Second step was taken for them: The pandemic. This allowed for a reservation system. (Something which I kept saying was the nuclear option in the before-times, but would eventually be necessary.)
Oh, and they kept raising prices, too.
So, the pre-pandemic numbers aren't back, but Disney is bringing in bigger profits than ever through all the upsells.
Less guests. More money. Yahtzee!
What more can a business ask for?
WDW is currently trying to feel out what the tipping point is for the holiday parties. But they keep selling out. So... they must be underpriced.
Supply and demand.
It's maddening and angering. But wishing Disney would fail over this doesn't make imaginary conspiracy scenarios real.
DisneyCane
Well-Known Member
Add $90 divided by party size to the cost for parking.
Chi84
Premium Member
That kind of common sense is going to merit an insult and a rude meme.