MK Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

[TheMaxRebo]

I can see any way the entire land is something geared towards teens or the equivalent of PG-13 - I am sure they will want all families to feel they can go .... But maybe there will be some elements that target a bit older crowd.

Like I have said, maybe an area of it will be like Knockturn Alley at the Wizarding World and be a bit darker, I assume the coaster will be for older kids at least, I also assume there will be a lounge, etc.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Disney's version of scary, particularly at Magic Kingdom, is more the kind of humorous/light scary you find at Haunted Mansion.

Haunted mansion would never get designed and built today. We can’t even have a “scary” adventure for Snow White! (The end Snow White ride is still very good - they did a good job with the update but still… worth noting).

 

[mickEblu]

I didn’t say it would be inappropriate; I said it would be tonally off. But that was based on my understanding of what you meant by the term, which may not actually reflect your intention.


I’ve only seen the first two, and I don’t recall them well enough to know why they would have been given that rating.

We may just be speaking at cross-purposes here. To clarify my position, I would like the land to have the same level of intensity as we see in the darker segments of Fantasmic. That to me is the Disney way of doing scary (which it to say Not So Scary).

Darker segments of Fantasmic sounds right to me. But I'd like to see them push that just a little bit which may happen naturally in some ways like when you sub things like a stuntacular soundtrack for more eerie mood setting music/ sound tracks. I mean we can just look at parts of current Disney attractions that fit the description as well... the talking skull on POTC, certain parts of the queue on Indy, the first half of Mansion, the vultures on Splash etc. Another good comp is the Ernesto De la Cruz meet n greet at Oogie Boogie. It should feel more like that and less like Villains Ever After or whatever that new show at DHS is called.

 

[UNCgolf]

Have you seen the Jurassic Park ride in Beijing?

I have -- I think half of it looks great but there's relatively long sections where you're essentially just watching a movie, which generally takes me out of the experience.

What other installations are you referring to beyond Spiderman, Spider-Pan, Jurassic and Transformers? 2/4 is fairly good and seems to speak to attraction execution rather than the system itself.

Transformers is also fairly well done, it’s probably just the Michael Bay of it all rather than the broader execution. I haven’t done Jurassic, I have pacing criticisms, but that one also seems well regarded.

I’m not sure if legend of Nuwa is exactly scoop. But no one seems to be aware of the Fantawild brand. Have any other park providers done them yet that I’m overlooking?

Just those. I think Pan looks boring, though -- most of that ride is movies.

I realize that's a personal thing, and I'm only describing what works for me. I think all of those rides are at least relatively highly regarded in general other than maybe Transformers (which I thought was really bad), but a dark ride that mainly consists of movies really drags the experience down for me. It's also the reason I don't think Shanghai Pirates is that great.

 

[LittleBuford]

Haunted mansion would never get designed and built today. We can’t even have a “scary” adventure for Snow White! (The end Snow White ride is still very good - they did a good job with the update but still… worth noting).

The deintensification of the Snow White rides goes back to the '80s and was in direct response to parents' complaints. It's not the result of some newfangled sensitivity.

 

[jah4955]

Haunted mansion would never get designed and built today. We can’t even have a “scary” adventure for Snow White! (The end Snow White ride is still very good - they did a good job with the update but still… worth noting).

What about the original version of Pirates?

 

[LittleBuford]

Darker segments of Fantasmic sounds right to me. But I'd like to see them push that just a little bit which may happen naturally in some ways like when you sub things like a stuntacular soundtrack for more eerie mood setting music/ sound tracks. I mean we can just look at parts of current Disney attractions that fit the description as well... the talking skull on POTC, certain parts of the queue on Indy, the first half of Mansion, the vultures on Splash etc. Another good comp is the Ernesto De la Cruz meet n greet at Oogie Boogie. It should feel more like that and less like Villains Ever After or whatever that new show at DHS is called.

I'd be happy with a mixture. Many of the villains themselves are equal parts scary and camp, so a good injection of humour wouldn't be a bad thing in my opinion.

 

[Tha Realest]

I will say as someone who went on the PeterPan ride at DisneySea, which is the same ride tech as the Avengers E Ticket, if this is the case we should be happy. It's not a normal screen, its Ratattouie meets Flight of Passage. With immersion and clarity I've never seen. We should be so fortunate if this is used in Villains land. And I would say I do see if they use this ride system having some AA's in there. But the mix between practical and screens with this system is a masterpiece

I think the Disney Dish podcast mentioned the footprint of PP matches almost exactly the space/buildout for the Avengers attraction.

 

[mickEblu]

I'd be happy with a mixture. Many of the villains themselves are equal parts scary and camp, so a good injection of humour wouldn't be a bad thing in my opinion.

Sure. I didn't mean to imply it shouldn't have any humor or campiness but Id like for them to lean the other direction.

 

[mickEblu]

I think the Disney Dish podcast mentioned the footprint of PP matches almost exactly the space/buildout for the Avengers attraction.

Same height too? Wondering if they can push the envelope there a bit with bigger scenes and maybe some elevators. IMO they do need to increase the thrill physically somehow.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The deintensification of the Snow White rides goes back to the '80s and was in direct response to parents' complaints. It's not the result of some newfangled sensitivity.

I’m talking about the recent changes… the one that happened in my lifetime ha.

What about the original version of Pirates?

Not the original but a boat ride with some pirate battles… sure.

 

[DisneyHead123]

Haunted mansion would never get designed and built today. We can’t even have a “scary” adventure for Snow White! (The end Snow White ride is still very good - they did a good job with the update but still… worth noting).

I say 50/50 odds it would get built (with IP, of course), but, up to the year 2024 at least, it would have involved riding from one complicated ghost animatronic to the next, with a fair bit of empty “mansion hallway” in between. I will give the benefit of the doubt here and say that maybe - maaaybe - that era is over.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Same height too? Wondering if they can push the envelope there a bit with bigger scenes and maybe some elevators. IMO they do need to increase the thrill physically somehow.

Our building is definitely multi level. And there are pits, similar to what was built for ROTR, so I really do suspect elevators will be involved.

 

[mickEblu]

Our building is definitely multi level. And there are pits, similar to what was built for ROTR, so I really do suspect elevators will be involved.

Niiice lets get some drops in there.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

it would have involved riding from one complicated ghost animatronic to the next, with a fair bit of empty “mansion hallway” in between.

Haha! And the ghost host saying “you’re lucky he didn’t spot you!” As you back up from the said ghost AA.

 

[LittleBuford]

I’m talking about the recent changes… the one that happened in my lifetime ha.

Not the original but a boat ride with some pirate battles… sure.

My point is that the avoidance, deintensification, or scrapping of things deemed overly scary is not new at Disney. There are many examples spanning the decades.

 

[Brer Panther]

a dark ride that mainly consists of movies really drags the experience down for me.

I agree. If you're just parked in front of a screen the whole time, it defeats the whole point of making it a dark ride.

 

[mickEblu]

a dark ride that mainly consists of movies really drags the experience down for me.

But they’re like REALLY big screens.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Manage your expectations.

Villains Land is going up in the park that saw Stitch's Great Escape as too scary.

 

[LSLS]

Why would we expect that of Disney? It would be tonally out of keeping with the parks as well as with the films from which the villains originate.

It really depends on the definition of PG-13. They have built plenty of rides/lands around PG-13 movies. I do think/hope it's darker/creepier than most of the lands in Disney now, but it doesn't need to be over the top levels either.