TrainsOfDisney
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Yes. A majority of people know who Kermit and Miss Piggy are.Popular as in people know who they are?
Yes. A majority of people know who Kermit and Miss Piggy are.Popular as in people know who they are?
The funny part is the Muppet vision store sold them when they were out. They were from palisades toys. I have most of them but the toy show only, or strange giveaway stuff you couldn't buy in stores.I just remembered that shortly before Disney's purchase stores were selling action figures of many of the Muppet Show characters...including relatively obscure ones like The Newscaster. I'm not a "toy guy," but I know it's arguably as big a thing as ever...especially with adults wanting to relive childhood nostalgia.
So yeah, I agree people know who they are. They are 70 years old. The question is does the general public want more of them. i. e. Content to consume via film or D+, merchandise or attractions.Yes. A majority of people know who Kermit and Miss Piggy are.
Well....the Muppet Show didn't go national until 1976...other than that, they were a small regional show in the DC area..... So, in the national public sphere for 49 years....So yeah, I agree people know who they are. They are 70 years old. The question is does the general public want more of them. i. e. Content to consume via film or D+, merchandise or attractions.
I simply stated their age.Well....the Muppet Show didn't go national until 1976...other than that, they were a small regional show in the DC area..... So, in the national public sphere for 49 years....
Disney seems to think so, they are rebooting the muppet show, and they are investing in this coaster.So yeah, I agree people know who they are. They are 70 years old. The question is does the general public want more of them. i. e. Content to consume via film or D+, merchandise or attractions.
I don't think it's so much that it's the Muppets, but that people actually find their humor hilarious (I'm one) and enjoy the show immensely. It's just an easy going, funny experience which a lot of people enjoy. We never missed it when we went to disney because it hits the mark for non offensive, funny jokes and gags - just plain fun IMO.Disney seems to think so, they are rebooting the muppet show, and they are investing in this coaster.
Do you think it’s a completely dead IP that should be ignored?
Just as a point of fact, I'm mid-50s, and I'm a Muppet fan. I was on the young edge of the target audience at the time of the Muppet Show. It appealed to adults as well, so, yeah, current 70-year olds are in the mix, too.So yeah, I agree people know who they are. They are 70 years old. [...]
And that's a big part of the problem with Disneys Muppets. They just aren't that funny. Mayhem nailed it. Muppets 2011 got it. Both had creators who understand the ip, especially Yorkes and Goldberg with mayhem. And haunted mansion was entertaining as well.I don't think it's so much that it's the Muppets, but that people actually find their humor hilarious (I'm one) and enjoy the show immensely. It's just an easy going, funny experience which a lot of people enjoy. We never missed it when we went to disney because it hits the mark for non offensive, funny jokes and gags - just plain fun IMO.
Not completely dead but I also don't think its some mega IP any longer either. The overlay is something they own so it just makes sense. The show( still rumored right?) isn't going to drive anything. DTC providers are always trying to create new content so why not.Disney seems to think so, they are rebooting the muppet show, and they are investing in this coaster.
Do you think it’s a completely dead IP that should be ignored?
it’s mixed in with Sesame Street but it’s one of the highest grossing IP’s worldwide budget wise. A little below pirates and above Indiana Jones, Lilo & Stitch, etc.I also don't think its some mega IP any longer either.
Most likely, yes. If they were marketed properly.So yeah, I agree people know who they are. They are 70 years old. The question is does the general public want more of them. i. e. Content to consume via film or D+, merchandise or attractions.
All time?it’s mixed in with Sesame Street but it’s one of the highest grossing IP’s worldwide budget wise. A little below pirates and above Indiana Jones, Lilo & Stitch, etc.
All time?
I think he meant the Muppets are 70 years old.Just as a point of fact, I'm mid-50s, and I'm a Muppet fan. I was on the young edge of the target audience at the time of the Muppet Show. It appealed to adults as well, so, yeah, current 70-year olds are in the mix, too.
(I know your "70" was just a stand-in for "old people," though, and I am not taking offense at all here. I refer to myself as old and over the hill all the time! )
(not counting the last decade) Sesame Street Muppets enjoyed a much more consistent popularity than Muppet Show Muppets, which is why Eisner tried to buy them too (much to the chagrin of Jim Henson.Sesame Street does a lot of heavy lifting.
imo the first few episodes were too edgy (I never wanted to think of the s*x lives of muppets)...the last few episodes seemed intentionally much closer to their roots comparatively speaking.....but it turned out to be too little too late...For what it's worth, my 14 year old daughter loves the much-maligned 2015 ABC show. She found that on her own, probably via social media. Let us not forget that there is a whole generation which communicates almost exclusively in meme, and Kermit-drinking-tea is hugely popular.
For what it's worth, my 14 year old daughter loves the much-maligned 2015 ABC show. She found that on her own, probably via social media. Let us not forget that there is a whole generation which communicates almost exclusively in meme, and Kermit-drinking-tea is hugely popular.
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