DHS Disney Confirms Muppets Take Over Rock 'n' Roller Coaster at Hollywood Studios

[Cmdr_Crimson]

The way the new brakes heat up, yes there could be a fire hazard

 

[FiestaFunKid]

I'd love to see Muppet Vision come back and replace Villains to create a cohesive themed land there...but it would be very against type for Disney to invest money to customize a theater to relaunch an attraction that had a 10 min wait time. I wouldn't feel great about it just being plopped into a generic theater without the Muppet theming, statler and waldorf, the effects in the back woven into the story, etc (would look very bush league for Disney Parks).

RNRC is already very popular today and will remain so after the Muppets re-theme (except maybe with the smaller kids who ride it once for Kermit and get a whole lot more than they expected after the light hearted pre-show).

 

[JD80]

I’d have to disagree strongly there. RnRC is a fairly basic coaster, especially now in 2025. The theming and music is what sets it apart. Sure there are those who will ride regardless, but its long term future does depend some on the choice of music.

With that said, I still believe Muppet versions of popular songs will work nicely.

Ok The average wait time for 2025 according to Thrill-data.com is 59m. What percentage, in your opinion, would this wait time drop if Aerosmith was replaced by:

• Zero or generic theming.
• Had a popular current musical act.

We can go on with other thematic choices like Fab 5, Princess Themed, or whatever. But these two should suffice.

My opinion is it would vary as much as it has over the last few years. You would get a bump in wait times for anything because it's new, but otherwise people will ride this attraction regardless of what's inside. The gravity building is basically empty anyway of theming.

 

[JD80]

It should probably be noted that this is an off-the-shelf-coaster that is replicated at two other parks around the world (Flight Force at DLP and Platform 13 at Walibi Hollans), and is 1 of 2 WDW's non-custom built coaster (Barnstormer being the other one) so the overall theming does matter to some coaster heads to make it different enough to visit, especially those in Europe who can easily access the other 2 clones

Outliers statistically. Out of the millions that ride these coasters a year, how many are coaster enthusiasts? Is it enough to drive the wait times up or down in any meaningful way over the course of a year?

 

[Disstevefan1]

Ok The average wait time for 2025 according to Thrill-data.com is 59m. What percentage, in your opinion, would this wait time drop if Aerosmith was replaced

In my opinion, the wait time will not drop no matter what the reskin would be.

Like I said about the Splash reskin from the start, no matter what, its is still a fun log flume ride.

No matter what, RnR is still a fun coaster.

 

[Incomudro]

As long as it will still be indoor, in mostly dark, and with sets, it will beat out the other two versions hands down.... Other than that, which band or musical act, and even which exact sets would not matter... it will still be a fun coaster in the dark with a storyline element... I think the DLP version was just colored lights and smoke...the other one is completely outdoors.... The indoor darkness does completely change the game....

It'd matter to me, and my family because we can be like that with music.
If this were done to hip hop, or Taylor Swift for instance none of us would get on it again.

 

[Biff215]

Ok The average wait time for 2025 according to Thrill-data.com is 59m. What percentage, in your opinion, would this wait time drop if Aerosmith was replaced by:

• Zero or generic theming.
• Had a popular current musical act.

We can go on with other thematic choices like Fab 5, Princess Themed, or whatever. But these two should suffice.

My opinion is it would vary as much as it has over the last few years. You would get a bump in wait times for anything because it's new, but otherwise people will ride this attraction regardless of what's inside. The gravity building is basically empty anyway of theming.

That might be the case, but to me that’s a bigger judgement on the park as a whole and the need for more attractions at DHS. Personally I would skip it if the theme/music was missing or irrelevant. You can get a better thrill at most amusement parks around the country.

 

[Bocabear]

It'd matter to me, and my family because we can be like that with music.
If this were don to hip hop, or Taylor Swift for instance none of us would get on it again.

I would agree with you about Hip-Hop...lol It would be nice if they would add a Muppets show into the Villains Theater, a Kermit and Piggy meet and greet and a couple kiddy rides like they did for Bugs Life at DCA... Just a couple small rides for little kids... That would make an awfully cute mittle Miniland area and would not take anything away from anything important....And be a real plus for very young families...

 

[Bocabear]

Yeah

That might be the case, but to me that’s a bigger judgement on the park as a whole and the need for more attractions at DHS. Personally I would skip it if the theme/music was missing or irrelevant. You can get a better thrill at most amusement parks around the country.

, but in general, Disney is not about Rollercoaster Thrills... that is a whole different demographic.... I can go to the state fair end get on a terrifying rickety coaster...lol But that is not what Disney does....and the Disney customer does not exppect high thrill rides and gigacoasters..... It is about the reputation Disney built with their Theme Parks.... Disney needs to actually remember that as they move forward de-theming their properties.....

 

[Disstevefan1]

That might be the case, but to me that’s a bigger judgement on the park as a whole and the need for more attractions at DHS. Personally I would skip it if the theme/music was missing or irrelevant. You can get a better thrill at most amusement parks around the country.

Just want to understand, you spent the $$ to be at DHS and you would skip the attraction even if the wait time was reasonable because of the theme/story? Not judging, you are free to do as you wish, just want to understand.

There are loads of folks (including my family) who has never gone on RnR because they do not like coasters no matter the theme.

 

[Biff215]

Just want to understand, you spent the $$ to be at DHS and you would skip the attraction even if the wait time was reasonable because of the theme/story? Not judging, you are free to do as you wish, just want to understand.

There are loads of folks (including my family) who has never gone on RnR because they do not like coasters no matter the theme.

It would likely depend on the wait time at that point. RnRC isn’t a classic Disney attraction for me without a proper soundtrack or theme, it’s just another coaster. I don’t think I’d wait an hour if it wasn’t something I found unique or enjoyable.

 

[Brer Panther]

I agree they could have cut the "We need to find the Electric Mayhem for the show!" element as it does feel, as stated above, "Tianafied". That also makes me think we'll randomly hear Kermit or Piggy yell "GUYS I CAN'T FIND THEM!" at random points through ought the ride like we got on Incredicoaster.

"The Electric Mayhem can PLAAAAAAAAAAAAY!"

Grrenlighting a new dark ride based on the Muppet IP would be seen as corporate malfeasance. The IP is in the dumps and it's really only keeping a spot in the parks due to a sense of duty to it's history more so than anything else.

So, building a NEW Muppets attraction is a horrible business decision, but retheming one of the park's most popular attractions to the Muppets is good?

And let's be honest, it's Disney's own fault the IP is in the dumps. They've demonstrated over and over again that they have no idea what to do with the characters.

This was one of the better compromises to be had.

This isn't a compromise, this is just Disney trying to get those of us annoyed about MuppetVision closing to shut up.

Disney would be foolish to create a dark ride with The Muppets when they have Inside Out, Coco, Lion King, Aladdin, Zootopia, Stitch, Moana, Tangled, etc......sitting right there.

Okay, so give THOSE movies dark rides too.

Then again, considering that most of Disney's most recent dark rides have been pretty lousy (Journey of the Little Mermaid, anyone?), maybe they should hold off on building more dark rides until Iger is shown the door.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

I agree they could have cut the "We need to find the Electric Mayhem for the show!" element as it does feel, as stated above, "Tianafied".

Maybe an A-1000 "Muppet Man" animatronic will wave "their" arms around!

 

[HMF]

(would look very bush league for Disney Parks).

Yes, but building Superstar Limo at Six Flags would make it look like Major League Baseball.

 

[HMF]

Like I said about the Splash reskin from the start, no matter what, its is still a fun log flume ride.

I think the Imagineers who worked on it agree with you.

 

[HMF]

Yeah

, but in general, Disney is not about Rollercoaster Thrills... that is a whole different demographic.... I can go to the state fair end get on a terrifying rickety coaster...lol But that is not what Disney does....and the Disney customer does not exppect high thrill rides and gigacoasters..... It is about the reputation Disney built with their Theme Parks.... Disney needs to actually remember that as they move forward de-theming their properties.....

Again, if Journey Into YOUR Imagination were built for a state fair, It would be considered a masterpiece.

 

[HMF]

And let's be honest, it's Disney's own fault the IP is in the dumps. They've demonstrated over and over again that they have no idea what to do with the characters.

That's because they seem to have trouble marketing anything that appeals to anyone over 10 and that's probably being generous.

 

[HMF]

, maybe they should hold off on building more dark rides until Iger is shown the door.

Even then, only If the person coming in is not currently in the company.

 

[Bocabear]

Even then, only If the person coming in is not currently in the company.

They need people that worked with the Old Guard... Tony Baxter for one....who understands story and staging and the right aesthetic.....and they need to give him a big budget and a talented team behind him willing to learn...

 

[FiestaFunKid]

...and, maybe a bit harder to quantify, but sprinkle in a little Disney charm and whimsy...which was a constant ingredient for so many years, now gone missing. The older guard, including Tony for sure, knew how to add this element.