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MK New Beak and Barrel - Pirates of the Caribbean-themed lounge
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I have an idea for one. Here's my idea:
An interactive nightclub/theater hybrid set in the roaring 1930s. Guests mingle with a society of explorers who gather each evening to share stories, treasures, and tall tales.
You make it a two-story kinda “clubhouse” and theme it with artifacts, trophies, exotic masks, and odd things that have been collected.
You have some Cast Members play the roles of a varied lot of eccentric characters like say an absent-minded professor, a bold adventurer, etc. They could perform interactive musical/comedy sketches, maybe a “New Member Induction Ceremony”, and other stuff to keep people entertained.
The could also invent unique and ridiculous sounding names for drinks. Maybe even use one as a greeting of sorts. I'm just brainstorming here, but maybe something like "Kungaloosh".
TheMaxRebo
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I don't know if we will ever get the full on Adventurer's Club back (I would love to be wrong) but maybe if they do expand on the S.E.A. (on Disney+, etc) they could expand it a bit more in the parks and have a lounge somewhere in one of the parks
Adventureland would probably fit the best, but they just did the Pirates one. I am sure you could fit it somewhere in EPCOT at one of the members locations in one of the countries
Having something at the Boardwalk would be cool to and could be a draw to people to the area
Casper Gutman
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One of the defenses of this spot that keeps coming up is that Disney just didn’t have room in this spot to build a kitchen. Putting aside the idea that Disney couldn’t have altered the space if they wanted to, examining this notion reveals just how cynical the new emphasis on alcohol really is. Of course this spot could have sold other things - expensive fancy ice cream treats, for instance, or nonalcoholic specialty drinks. This is a bar because Disney WANTS people drinking. The profit on each drink is great, of course. What’s more, where each guest is likely to buy just one sundae or one nonalcoholic specialty drink at most, many people will buy several alcoholic drinks. Some will buy a lot. Most of all - and most cynically of all - Disney wants to get booze into guests to lower their inhibitions and loosen their purse strings. A guest doesn’t have to be drunk to spend more then they otherwise might - one or two drinks will do just fine.
This is why EPCOT is now a giant bar. Why the resort’s only sit-down Star Wars spot is a bar. Why this very family-themed space near Pirates is a bar. Why the Grand Floridian has a bar themed to a cartoon and is adding another one, with both bars displacing charming elements of the original lobby. Disney WANTS to get booze into guests, “family” orientation be hanged.
This is why EPCOT is now a giant bar. Why the resort’s only sit-down Star Wars spot is a bar. Why this very family-themed space near Pirates is a bar. Why the Grand Floridian has a bar themed to a cartoon and is adding another one, with both bars displacing charming elements of the original lobby. Disney WANTS to get booze into guests, “family” orientation be hanged.
Everything being equal I'd prefer it outside the parks. I don't want it tied to park hours. Put it at a resort, Boardwalk, or Disney Springs, and keep it open from 4pm til Midnight.
Casper Gutman
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How about a Toontown themed bar? They could have lots of cool art of Goofy slamming down Heinekens or Mickey and Donald doing shots. Disney could even create a marketable new character to run the place - maybe a camel. Call him John or Joe or something.
plutofan15
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Sounds good to me! Can I have my shot of Jager in a Donald themed shot glass?
AidenRodriguez731
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Yeah the onew thing we all know that does not fit alcohol is Pirates. Its strangew how Disney is trying to push pirates and alcohol together on a nostalgic ride loved a lot by older fans right??? Especially when its an idea already proven to work with other theme park attraction lounges.
Castle Cake Apologist
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Exec: That's a great idea! But can you theme it to Bluey?
Stripes
Premium Member
For your information…
Families come in all sorts of shapes and sizes. Some families visiting the parks don’t have anybody under 21, but still very much appreciate the theming and atmosphere (and hopefully drinks) that Beak and Barrel has to offer.
In the context of a pirate-themed environment, a tavern is a much more appropriate choice than either a specialty ice cream store or even a full-service restaurant. But, somehow, I think no matter what they did, you’d be criticizing the decision.
DisneyHead123
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I know it’s not a lounge, but as a themed space I’d really like to see Space 220 get a glow up in keeping with these more recent lounges (I don’t know how it being run by a non Disney group impacts things, but just dreaming.) We’ve looked at going over and over but never pulled the trigger because of all the “Eh… one and done” reviews. It has the foundation of an amazing experience, to my mind, it just needs some immersive additions to the interior. (To a lesser extent I feel that way about Storybook Dining. It’s a fantastic experience, but clearly predates the super immersive restaurant settings you see now. There are so many fun things they could do with jewels from the mines, adding to the forest elements, etc.)
The most obvious upcoming candidate for a lounge or restaurant is Villains, which I am suuuuper excited about.
Think a 20,000 Leagues lounge or eatery would be amazing, although I don’t know if Millennials and younger know / care about this ride.
Big Thunder would actually be a cool candidate for something with an abandoned saloon vibe. I remember being fascinated by The Diamond Horseshoe piano as a kid!
Again, for those not in love with more alcohol at MK, I’m not super invested in these being lounges vs. eateries (although if I wanted to go down the rabbit hole of eateries alone there are many more kid-centric themes that would be fun, like Sugar Rush.)
Club Cooloholic
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Spot on.
And if you think people are grumpy or behave badly at the parks now, just keep making it easier for them to drink. Because. Everyone knows crowds, booze and heat makes for a great time in the lines.
Casper Gutman
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This thread really clarifies why “Disney Adults” is often a derogatory term.
Chi84
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I thought Disney adults were people who still enjoy Disney even though they’re no longer children.
Tha Realest
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I saw you were the most recent commenter and clicked just to see your input. I like this but it’s not earth shattering (also avoiding spoilers)
AidenRodriguez731
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I feel like the people who cry and moan about a theme park ride or river being taken out are most associated with the negative stereotype than someone who just... wants to check out a new hyper themed bar.
JMcMahonEsq
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If you think it’s absolutely beautiful, and well themed, then why would you think it’s strange that WDW would want to recreate something they have had success with in Olga’s, in a park that doesn’t have that type of location at all? I don’t care about what you find strange, or where you want to drink or not. Sure it’s your opinion and you are entitled to it, but it matters just about as much as my personal opinion that roller coasters aren’t good rides. Just because I don’t like them doesn’t mean I don’t objectively understand roller coasters are popular, and that Disney would be dumb to not provide such rides that serve a big part of its customer base. I have problems with any fool and their posts that just because they don’t like something, here Alcohol, that other people shouldn’t have the right to enjoy it, and that WDW shouldn’t offer it to a customer base who clearly would use the offering
He is wrong in the sense of his inane anti-alcohol puritan diatribes. Family events from baseball games, to parks, to restaurants, to family bbqs have involved alcohol since basically the dawn of time. Every other park offers alcohol, and have a single space in all of MK that would act as a mount for people who choose to use it, doest turn MK into hedonism II.
Finally as to comparisons with Olga’s or rain Forrest, I honestly don’t see the stretch of the comparison. I am not comparing them as far as being the same food offerings, but as “family” locations where you have kids with their parents, that are “themed” more towards kids than adults (A&V they are not) and that serve alcohol. Where’s your distinction? Is it that you can order non-alcoholic drinks at their places…you can do that at B&B. Is it that there isn’t enough food offered at B&B? So if they had chicken fingers Casper wouldn’t be worried about downfall of western society due to bathtub gin and loose women?
Casper Gutman
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It’s deeply telling that the posters defending this bar keep desperately pretending it isn’t what it is. It has two nonalcoholic options! It serves a couple basic food items! The primary purpose of the Beak, just like Oga’s or any other bar, is to get alcohol into customers, and if you’re pretending it isn’t perhaps you should reexamine your argument.
The most hilarious argument here is that “booze fits pirates!” Sure. So would gambling, drugs, prostitution (and much worse), assault, theft, murder… but here’s a secret: these aren’t real pirates, so Disney can have them serve anything they like!
By the way, what’s the argument against putting some nice theming into stitch over in Tomorrowland and loading the space with slots and a few table games? Adults should be allowed to gamble and it’s something people like to do on vacation. Why not? What’s the line? Whatever Disney says it is?