DHS Disney Confirms Muppets Take Over Rock 'n' Roller Coaster at Hollywood Studios

Basil of Baker Street

Basil of Baker Street

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TrainsOfDisney said:
there’s no need to appease fans - Disney has been needing to change out Aerosmith for a bit. Mayhem is a Disney+ IP. What other options were legit considered? The Camp rock n roller coaster? Idk.

Kermit the Frog is one of the most recognizable IP characters in the world. The Muppets as a whole (including Sesame Street I think? So it gets complicated) is one of the most successful franchises out there.

So popular based on what?
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So yeah, they are changing it out to something they own which makes sense. It's not because the Muppets are popular and the masses want it. It's a ride that doesn't matter as much about theme because its a great ride. You could theme it to the sinking of the Titanic and it would have a 60 minute wait because it has an accelerated launch and a couple of inverts.

This is a ride that is extremely popular with tween, teens and young adults(what I see mostly on the ride) which are NOT the people watching Muppets. So I just think this is fan service for those outraged of the closing of Muppet theater. Again my opinion as I don't have facts so I don't want anyone to misunderstand me.
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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Basil of Baker Street said:
This is a ride that is extremely popular with tween, teens and young adults(what I see mostly on the ride) which are NOT the people watching Muppets.
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I mean…. More of those demos are watching muppets than listening to Aerosmith I’m sure of that.

Muppets as a recognizable franchise is EXTREMELY popular.

I feel like there were multiple ideas bounced around depending on where monsters ended up.
 
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James Alucobond

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Also, whether or not the Muppets are past their prime, fictional characters are generally going to be more timeless and can potentially experience renewed interest and turn out new content whenever the rights holder chooses. For a real band like Aerosmith, the ride essentially becomes a memorial once they stop writing and performing. There won’t be an Aerosmith 2 or Aerosmith: The Resmithening.
 
TheMaxRebo

TheMaxRebo

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James Alucobond said:
Also, whether or not the Muppets are past their prime, fictional characters are generally going to be more timeless and can potentially experience renewed interest and turn out new content whenever the rights holder chooses. For a real band like Aerosmith, the ride essentially becomes a memorial once they stop writing and performing. There won’t be an Aerosmith 2 or Aerosmith: The Resmithening.
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I, for one, would be interesting in an Aerosmith Babies prequel
 
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AidenRodriguez731

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Cranky Kong said:
Most of the Muppet recasts have been fine with me. Vogel's the odd one out that I'm still not used to at all.


Taylor Swift is one of the most milquetoast artists ever in terms of potential controversy. If any "controversy" happens, it'll be a controversy that Disney or whoever their CEO is at the time is even more guilty of already.

As a Henson nerd, I do prefer they add a "new" Muppets attraction (though it shouldn't have been at the cost of MV3D), don't get me wrong. But Swift would've been very safe and honestly a better choice both short and long term. The bigger problem with Swift is only a handful of her songs work for a roller coaster, and of the ones that are well known, it's basically only "Shake It Off", top of my head.
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Taylor Swift could 100% get in a serious controversy, she already does have some noise around her. A MUCHHHH smarter idea would be to have the Muppets cover one of her songs as a fun little joke and have her maybe appear in posters/the preshow as one of their "special guests". Then, if anything ever happens, its as simple as taking down the poster + stopping her song or preshow clip from playing.
 
Cranky Kong

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AidenRodriguez731 said:
Taylor Swift could 100% get in a serious controversy, she already does have some noise around her. A MUCHHHH smarter idea would be to have the Muppets cover one of her songs as a fun little joke and have her maybe appear in posters/the preshow as one of their "special guests". Then, if anything ever happens, its as simple as taking down the poster + stopping her song or preshow clip from playing.
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I'm not trying to be combative, but, I'm really not sure what controversies you're talking about. If it's her expressing cultural/political opinions, well, Elon Musk and Obama are still in the American Adventure (and, well, HoP is *right there*); they still get James Woods to voice Hades; they're surely going to keep working with Pedro Pascal in spite of his opposite-of-James-Woods opinions, etc.

If it's her private plane usage, well, Bob Iger is the last person to talk. . . That's all I can think of that isn't your typical celebrity drama-gossip that even Aerosmith faced back when the ride first opened.

Again, I do prefer they go with Muppets though. I'll also say I like your idea generally, it works with the whole "special guest star" thing the Muppet Show had.
 
HMF

HMF

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DisneyCane said:
I don't really get the choice of changing the theme of thrilling rollercoaster to The Muppets of all things. I would think the key demographic for The Muppets is mostly too small to be allowed to ride.
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I don't think that is necessarily true but after the Tiana's debacle, I honestly don't think Disney understands who their target audience is because the ride's theme and dialogue seems to be aimed at a pre-school audience, yet nearly all of that demographic would be unable to ride it and would likely be turned off by the splash and the idea is it's a thrill ride which older audiences would enjoy too. It may be an even weirder case of "not understanding your audience" than Stitch's Great Escape. Regarding the Muppets, There is a lot of jokes in there that go right over kids heads. It is actually more "adult" than people think not that young kids can't enjoy it.
 
FigmentJedi

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HMF said:
I don't think that is necessarily true but after the Tiana's debacle, I honestly don't think Disney understands who their target audience is because the ride's theme and dialogue seems to be aimed at a pre-school audience, yet nearly all of that demographic would be unable to ride it and would likely be turned off by the splash and the idea is it's a thrill ride which older audiences would enjoy too. It may be an even weirder case of "not understanding your audience" than Stitch's Great Escape. Regarding the Muppets, There is a lot of jokes in there that go right over kids heads. It is actually more "adult" than people think not that young kids can't enjoy it.
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Disney ride scripts have been atrocious since the Jack Sparrow-ing of Pirates.
 
WorldExplorer

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Tell Disney to halt the paint; I've got a much better idea for this retheme!

Think of the synergy!
 
HMF

HMF

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FigmentJedi said:
Disney ride scripts have been atrocious since the Jack Sparrow-ing of Pirates.
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Yes, That has been my pet-peeve for years now. However unlike the Political Correct-related changes, there might be a chance that Disney may eventually decide to restore the original script for the bombardment and well-scenes hopefully. Spaceship Earth 07 is also painful with it's horrible analogies and making the great Judi Dench sound like a condescending school teacher.
 
Purduevian

Purduevian

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TrainsOfDisney said:
there’s no need to appease fans - Disney has been needing to change out Aerosmith for a bit. Mayhem is a Disney+ IP. What other options were legit considered? The Camp rock n roller coaster? Idk.
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I understand why they went with Muppets, but another fan/arm chair imagineering was to theme it to Powerline/a Goofy Movie, or make it the east coast Incredicoaster.
 
Smoky

Smoky

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FigmentJedi said:
Disney ride scripts have been atrocious since the Jack Sparrow-ing of Pirates.
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It's because the gen-z California crazies that write this stuff are completely divorced from reality and get all of their ideas from TikTok or from chasing the "modern audience" (which is code for sterilized generic slop as to not offend anyone). It's a problem across virtually all mediums right now, video games, movies, tv, etc. I know it's subjective, but the last genuinely well written Disney movie I can think of was probably Toy Story 3 or maybe Inside Out. Has there been a single Iger era ride that didn't have a boring and extremely dumb downed story? I know theme park rides aren't meant to be high forms of literature, but the writing and direction on Tiana's for example is borderline insulting to my intelligence. I'm so glad the SSE redo in 2020 was quietly shelved as Lord only knows how bad that would have been had it gone through.
 

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