MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[HMF]

I would say it's the new Disney and never going back again.

I was not complementing them.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

If you accept the implicit / unstated justifications for removing those other two rides, it’s not hard to imagine a near future where the WDW Jungle Cruise goes away for a Moana attraction.

Just WDW though. DL gets to keep their nice things.

Jungle Cruise is probably my favorite ride at MK so if it closes would be a bummer, but can understand it takes up a lot of room and have had years to enjoy it and if the replacement is great I'd be all for it

Two differences with JC and recent closures though:
- JC is one of the more in demand LLMP so there is revenue tied to it from that
- a lot of merch sold related to JC, Skipper, etc, so other revenue coming in

Maybe the replacement brings in more though

 

[HMF]

Jungle Cruise is probably my favorite ride at MK so if it closes would be a bummer, but can understand it takes up a lot of room and have had years to enjoy it and if the replacement is great I'd be all for it

Two differences with JC and recent closures though:
- JC is one of the more in demand LLMP so there is revenue tied to it from that
- a lot of merch sold related to JC, Skipper, etc, so other revenue coming in

Maybe the replacement brings in more though

After Great Movie Ride. Jungle Cruise is the last attraction remaining in which the cast member really creates the experience. Of course this is a liability for Disney because if said Cast Member is good, They will have a legitimate argument that as an actor they deserve more money. Of course, with Disney being as cheap as they are, we can't have that so they force the CM's to follow the approved script word for word with no deviation whatsoever. I am sure sooner or later they will realize they could save money by eliminating Jungle Cruise and building new attractions on the plot, They can have the minimum amount of CM's to run the ride whom they can pay less and solve that "problem" once and for all and that's assuming AI doesn't replace the Cast Members which I would not put past them at this point. In other words, I wouldn't be shocked if it happens.

 

[Fox&Hound]

Personally, I think Jungle Cruise is more dated than any of their other more recent removals. The AAs look prehistoric and how many times can you laugh at “the backside of water” while half the boat stares blankly at the skipper. I know I am in the minority (and I fully respect that), but I don’t see the appeal. I wish the temple scene would use some projection mapping or something to bring more life and energy to the ride.

 

[Brer Panther]

This Cars discussion is absolutely captivating.

I think the reason we keep going off-topic is because there isn't much to talk about.

 

[BlindChow]

I think the reason we keep going off-topic is because there isn't much to talk about.

It's perfectly reasonable to let a thread lie when there's no news coming out.

If people are following a specific thread for updates, it's also nice to not have to wade through pages and pages of irrelevant twaddle (that's usually already been discussed ad nauseum elsewhere).

 

[jah4955]

Rivers of America was bigger, as seen in this photo. They have more space to work with, which makes sense given that RoA was built for several boats and the island, vs 20K which was just one ride

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When only considering what they, eventually, crammed within the 20K footprint, I would like to have high expectations for RoA replacement. The future Cars site seems a bit smaller than 20K...the remainder RoA footprint (for Vilians) seems a tad larger than 20K. (& Idky my post was deleted about enjoying the walk along both RoA & 20K lagoon...I'm still going to miss all the scenic water vistas).

 

[Coaster Lover]

This should be the slogan for the company, now.

"When you wish upon a star, makes no difference who you are, you're actually a few million years late. That star is dead. Just like Walt."

 

[Incomudro]

If you accept the implicit / unstated justifications for removing those other two rides, it’s not hard to imagine a near future where the WDW Jungle Cruise goes away for a Moana attraction.

Just WDW though. DL gets to keep their nice things.

If they get rid of Jungle Cruise, I might not comeback.
It's been a few years since I've been back anyway, but with Splash's poor replacement, the ambience of the river and boat gone, (let's see how well they replace that) and a Jungle Cruise gone, that'd be major damage to a park I love.

 

[Rhinocerous]

Personally, I think Jungle Cruise is more dated than any of their other more recent removals. The AAs look prehistoric and how many times can you laugh at “the backside of water” while half the boat stares blankly at the skipper. I know I am in the minority (and I fully respect that), but I don’t see the appeal. I wish the temple scene would use some projection mapping or something to bring more life and energy to the ride.

The correct answer is every time.

 

[Incomudro]

Personally, I think Jungle Cruise is more dated than any of their other more recent removals. The AAs look prehistoric and how many times can you laugh at “the backside of water” while half the boat stares blankly at the skipper. I know I am in the minority (and I fully respect that), but I don’t see the appeal. I wish the temple scene would use some projection mapping or something to bring more life and energy to the ride.

A huge part of the appeal for me, aside from it being a classic attraction is that it's "real."
You are not inside an air conditioned show building.
You actually board a boat, the boat has an engine (yes it's guided on a track) and you are OUTSIDE feeling the weather, smelling the outdoors, winding through lots of real flora.
Take that away, and we're going to get another show building.
We used to have 20K outside too, and though you went inside the boats - outside was a huge blue, volcanic lagoon.
These things set Disney part.
And yeah, I can hear those jokes every time I go as the person that delivers them really effects the show.

 

[Gusey]

I do think the 2021 Jungle Cruise update is a sign that they aren't going to get rid of it for a while, especially as it tackled the more controversial elements. Jungle Cruise, Pirates and Haunted Mansion are the main three attractions that actually get new updates and new scenes, so they're the most likely to stay of any.

 

[WorldExplorer]

After Great Movie Ride. Jungle Cruise is the last attraction remaining in which the cast member really creates the experience. Of course this is a liability for Disney because if said Cast Member is good, They will have a legitimate argument that as an actor they deserve more money. Of course, with Disney being as cheap as they are, we can't have that so they force the CM's to follow the approved script word for word with no deviation whatsoever. I am sure sooner or later they will realize they could save money by eliminating Jungle Cruise and building new attractions on the plot, They can have the minimum amount of CM's to run the ride whom they can pay less and solve that "problem" once and for all and that's assuming AI doesn't replace the Cast Members which I would not put past them at this point. In other words, I wouldn't be shocked if it happens.

I think Enchanted Tales with Belle belongs in that category. From what I've seen they seem to have more leeway than skippers, too. It just depends on if you get a short show or a long one.

 

[Rich Brownn]

Glad I worked Cruise when they weren't so tough (my spiel was about 90% improv). Dick Nunis rode my boat and laughed his tail off. (I even made Phyllis Diller crack up). 50 years later and I can still do the spiel (my biggest laughs always came from a non-verbal joke. Exiting the temple I'd "count" the crew, look disturbed, "recount", and then would quickly turn and go "Meanwhile, here in the ..." Worked every time.

 

[flyerjab]

Personally, I think Jungle Cruise is more dated than any of their other more recent removals. The AAs look prehistoric and how many times can you laugh at “the backside of water” while half the boat stares blankly at the skipper. I know I am in the minority (and I fully respect that), but I don’t see the appeal. I wish the temple scene would use some projection mapping or something to bring more life and energy to the ride.

I’m with you on this one. We rarely ride it anymore. Ironically though, I love the Skipper Canteen.

My issue with this is more of a general problem I have with comedies. This ride is laced with humor throughout. In the entertainment realm, I can watch and rewatch adventure films, science-fiction, fantasy, drama and documentaries over and over. Comedies, though, are different. Once I’ve heard the jokes, I typically don’t go back and rewatch very many comedies. Once I know the jokes it just isn’t as funny anymore. And I find that translates to this ride. Also, it does look its age a bit.

That being said, however, I think that this one could stay, mainly due to inclusion in multi-pass. There is still a strong demand for this ride as there is always a wait to get on, indicating people are using it as part of the pay to play system. I also think that, with some more updates, especially in the cave scene, it could even lure me back into riding again - for a little while lol.

If a Moana mini land was offered up I would probably vote for that over JC. Just sayin’.

 

[Chi84]

I was not complementing them.

I wasn’t complimenting them either. But the reality is that only a few generations grew up at the same time Disney started and grew to what it is now. Everything, including Disney, has a life cycle especially when you’re talking about nostalgia for the original attractions.

Disney isn’t going to chase a demographic that’s coming to an end no matter who runs the company. It’s changing to fit the times just like everything else.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Just a reminder, there is a thread exclusively for construction updates on Piston Peak and Villains Land, if that's what you're looking for: Right here!

 

[Disstevefan1]

Personally, I think Jungle Cruise is more dated than any of their other more recent removals. The AAs look prehistoric and how many times can you laugh at “the backside of water” while half the boat stares blankly at the skipper. I know I am in the minority (and I fully respect that), but I don’t see the appeal. I wish the temple scene would use some projection mapping or something to bring more life and energy to the ride.

Don't worry I am sure the Jungle cruise will be destroyed and IPeed all over eventually.
I will miss the skippers stand up routines, very funny and it was what I really liked about the ride.

 

[jah4955]

I wasn’t complimenting them either. But the reality is that only a few generations grew up at the same time Disney started and grew to what it is now. Everything, including Disney, has a life cycle especially when you’re talking about nostalgia for the original attractions.

Disney isn’t going to chase a demographic that’s coming to an end no matter who runs the company. It’s changing to fit the times just like everything else.

I'm not saying it hasn't been said before...just that I haven't seen it said before. Best demonstrated with an example: TSI opened 1973. 52 years later, in 2025, someone born, say, in 2015, experiences TSI for the first time and has one of the best experiences of their lives. The fact TSI is vastly older than their parents had no bearing, good or bad, on this kid's positive experience in 2025. For the rest of of that kid's life, lets say another 80 years into the future, TSI will be part of their story, their nostalgia. If TSI didn't close and that kid started a family, they would be eager to introduce their children to TSI in hopes they experience the same thrill they did from their own childhood. And, if they do end up having a similar experience, those children could start the cycle all over again ... into a hypothetical perpetuity.

Four generations of my family have enjoyed TSI, but now we'll never know if a fifth would have.

Just because an attraction is "old" doesn't mean it's not giving the "brand-new" feel to anyone who experiences it for the first time, especially children. To offer a much-more-common parallel: every parent, regardless of generation, that I've ever spoken with that does the "Santa Claus Christmas Present" tradition says they do so year after year to see the wonder on their young childrens' faces on Christmas morning, while also being reminded of their own childhood nostalgia. With some people's logic, Santa Claus should have been all-but-forgotten, at-best, several decades ago. I understand the need to always have something "actually new" to maximize attendance, and I realize there may have been several other reasons for the closure of TSI, but throwing-out something simply because it's "old" doesn't fly.

 

[Rhinocerous]

Just because an attraction is "old" doesn't mean it's not giving the "brand-new" feel to anyone who experiences it for the first time, especially children. To offer a much-more-common parallel: every parent, regardless of generation, that I've ever spoken with that does the "Santa Claus Christmas Present" tradition says they do so year after year to see the wonder on their young childrens' faces on Christmas morning, while also being reminded of their own childhood nostalgia. With some people's logic, Santa Claus should have been all-but-forgotten, at-best, several decades ago. I understand the need to always have something "actually new" to maximize attendance, and I realize there may have been several other reasons for the closure of TSI, but throwing-out something simply because it's "old" doesn't fly.

Especially if you throw out the reindeer and sleigh.