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Walt Disney World Ride Elimination Game
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SplashJacket
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Vote ——-> Space mountain
some of y’all hate things because they’re new and it’s edgy to hate those things, but no can argue to me with a straight face that Space is a better ride experience than Cosmic
BlakeW39
Well-Known Member
Pretty improper way to dismiss other opinions. I voted for Cosmic Rewind for a lot of reasons and none of them are because it's "edgy."
Space certainly has its problems. But I wouldn't want it gone per se. Can't say the same for Cosmic Rewind lol...
SplashJacket
Well-Known Member
To each their own, cosmic is by no means a perfect experience, but it’s also just not in the same stratosphere as space. I skip FoP most trips, I still like it, but I recognize it is one of the best rides in the world.
Some users have been voting for rise and cosmic when dumbo was still on the board. Not everyone voting for guardians at this point is being “edgy” but a lot of the early votes were, very silly and bizarre personal vendettas.
adimond
Active Member
We're choosing #11...it's not like that ranking's anything to sneeze at. But yeah, I do think Space Mountain is better than Cosmic Rewind.
I love the austere and spiky Space Mountain facade, I especially love the WDW queue with the funhouse mirror views of starfields and the spooky cosmic music (a close relative of classic EPCOT vibes but without any educational pretense)...preconditioning you with feelings of awe and mystery, rather than some cheeseball celebrity pre-show that's stale by the second or third time you see someone point out, "hey look y'all it's Terry Crews!"
I admire John Hench's genius in developing the basic idea (the same idea as CR), both childlike in its playfulness and technically very challenging, thus taking over a decade from Walt's approval to grand opening: a roller coaster in an enclosed dark building; we're shooting you into space. I love the frantic, disorienting ride itself, and I've always felt that the people who complain it's too rough need to cowboy up. It's a wild mouse coaster, it's supposed to throw you around.
Cosmic Rewind on the other hand boasts a truly impressive, almost eerie smoothness, but when it catches you at the wrong moment, somehow that smoothness almost seems to amplify the nausea.
The song selection is also a big factor. My takes:
"Everybody Wants to Rule the World" - This is the one I drew the first time, on an AP preview that I was unexpectedly allowed to sneak a couple of non-passholders onto, so we had been primed to love the whole experience. Precisely because it's a slower tempo, this song shows off the ride's graceful swoopiness to best advantage. Makes you realize how much more creative they could have gotten with the other 5 (and why not more?) tracks.
"I Ran (So Far Away)" - Never a bad time for this song, and it's a perfect one for a rollercoaster. For 20 years now I can't hear it without flashing back to cruising around Vice City doing crimes.
"September" - Great feel-good jam, out of season 11 months of the year but still played at every wedding reception!
"One Way or Another" - Listen, I *adore* Blondie. Debbie Harry is a goddess. But "One Way or Another" may be their most annoying song, arguably worse than "Hanging on the Telephone." This week I heard "Atomic" on the radio and thought, man, that slaps. Why couldn't they have used that instead? Many better options, missed opportunity.
"Disco Inferno" - Crosses the line into too silly, makes the whole thing into a joke, which to be sure is on brand for the franchise, but it's always deflating to get this one.
"Conga" - Also too intentionally stupid. Ruins it for me. Tempo doesn't work, no relation to the ride motion, neither amping it up more nor providing counterpoint like Tears for Fears does. And feels a bit too late-80s to fit the rest of the GotG songs, doesn't it? I don't care nearly enough about Marvel lore to look it up, but isn't the conceit that his mom left him a mixtape in the 80s with a bunch of then-already-classic rock/pop?
Sometimes I love it, sometimes the best part is 10 minutes later when I'm just so glad to not be on it anymore. It's a highly variable experience.
Oh yeah and the ride story itself is piffle with the space titan or whatever, everyone on earth is tired of Chris Pratt by now and Marvel movies in general, the building is an unforgivable eyesore, it doesn't belong in Future World in any way, and the laborious attempts to shoehorn it in theme-wise (by saying it's a "Xandar pavilion" and such) somehow only make the de-evolution more depressing than just plopping down an IP roller coaster there without pretext or explanation like at least a good honest shameless Six Flags would do. Granted it's definitely a heck of a ride on a pure physical level, but if that's all I wanted, why go to EPCOT instead of an hourly motel in Kissimmee?
Space Mountain needs some TLC, no doubt (aside from the track, a really thoughtful reinvention of the lighting scheme will be important; I hope they also put some work into reviving the post-show and speed ramp), but to me it belongs in the WDI hall of fame, and I'm particularly fond of the un-steampunkified Florida version.
New doesn't equal bad (I thought the Tiana hate in round one was unserious and said so at the time; Remy also came in unnaturally low here, for another example)...but it doesn't equal good either. Flight of Passage and Rise of the Resistance (on the odd chance you catch it running) are the only rides from that timeframe that I think have earned a place in the top 10.
I love the austere and spiky Space Mountain facade, I especially love the WDW queue with the funhouse mirror views of starfields and the spooky cosmic music (a close relative of classic EPCOT vibes but without any educational pretense)...preconditioning you with feelings of awe and mystery, rather than some cheeseball celebrity pre-show that's stale by the second or third time you see someone point out, "hey look y'all it's Terry Crews!"
I admire John Hench's genius in developing the basic idea (the same idea as CR), both childlike in its playfulness and technically very challenging, thus taking over a decade from Walt's approval to grand opening: a roller coaster in an enclosed dark building; we're shooting you into space. I love the frantic, disorienting ride itself, and I've always felt that the people who complain it's too rough need to cowboy up. It's a wild mouse coaster, it's supposed to throw you around.
Cosmic Rewind on the other hand boasts a truly impressive, almost eerie smoothness, but when it catches you at the wrong moment, somehow that smoothness almost seems to amplify the nausea.
The song selection is also a big factor. My takes:
"Everybody Wants to Rule the World" - This is the one I drew the first time, on an AP preview that I was unexpectedly allowed to sneak a couple of non-passholders onto, so we had been primed to love the whole experience. Precisely because it's a slower tempo, this song shows off the ride's graceful swoopiness to best advantage. Makes you realize how much more creative they could have gotten with the other 5 (and why not more?) tracks.
"I Ran (So Far Away)" - Never a bad time for this song, and it's a perfect one for a rollercoaster. For 20 years now I can't hear it without flashing back to cruising around Vice City doing crimes.
"September" - Great feel-good jam, out of season 11 months of the year but still played at every wedding reception!
"One Way or Another" - Listen, I *adore* Blondie. Debbie Harry is a goddess. But "One Way or Another" may be their most annoying song, arguably worse than "Hanging on the Telephone." This week I heard "Atomic" on the radio and thought, man, that slaps. Why couldn't they have used that instead? Many better options, missed opportunity.
"Disco Inferno" - Crosses the line into too silly, makes the whole thing into a joke, which to be sure is on brand for the franchise, but it's always deflating to get this one.
"Conga" - Also too intentionally stupid. Ruins it for me. Tempo doesn't work, no relation to the ride motion, neither amping it up more nor providing counterpoint like Tears for Fears does. And feels a bit too late-80s to fit the rest of the GotG songs, doesn't it? I don't care nearly enough about Marvel lore to look it up, but isn't the conceit that his mom left him a mixtape in the 80s with a bunch of then-already-classic rock/pop?
Sometimes I love it, sometimes the best part is 10 minutes later when I'm just so glad to not be on it anymore. It's a highly variable experience.
Oh yeah and the ride story itself is piffle with the space titan or whatever, everyone on earth is tired of Chris Pratt by now and Marvel movies in general, the building is an unforgivable eyesore, it doesn't belong in Future World in any way, and the laborious attempts to shoehorn it in theme-wise (by saying it's a "Xandar pavilion" and such) somehow only make the de-evolution more depressing than just plopping down an IP roller coaster there without pretext or explanation like at least a good honest shameless Six Flags would do. Granted it's definitely a heck of a ride on a pure physical level, but if that's all I wanted, why go to EPCOT instead of an hourly motel in Kissimmee?
Space Mountain needs some TLC, no doubt (aside from the track, a really thoughtful reinvention of the lighting scheme will be important; I hope they also put some work into reviving the post-show and speed ramp), but to me it belongs in the WDI hall of fame, and I'm particularly fond of the un-steampunkified Florida version.
New doesn't equal bad (I thought the Tiana hate in round one was unserious and said so at the time; Remy also came in unnaturally low here, for another example)...but it doesn't equal good either. Flight of Passage and Rise of the Resistance (on the odd chance you catch it running) are the only rides from that timeframe that I think have earned a place in the top 10.
Like this comment if you want Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind to be eliminated.
Like this comment if you want Space Mountain to be eliminated.
HoustonHorn
Premium Member
I can. CR makes me wanna puke if I ride it more than 2 times in a row. I can ride Space on a loop.
So CR gets my vote.
Centauri Space Station
Well-Known Member
I’ll go with space mt
Centauri Space Station
Well-Known Member
Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind has been eliminated and voted out! Guardians is amazing and a modern marvel and I'm really glad it got as far as it did in a close race! Guardians might not have the best facade at all (a big box) and doesn't fit in to well with EPCOT, but it's one of the best Disney roller coasters in the world, and just a nonstop blast from start to finish. It's pure fun, great songs while you ride, smooth as butter, and is so unique with it's spinning element. It's truly incredible and pure bliss from beginning to end. The ride is thrilling and intense, while also feeling like dancing a bit lowkey. I love it so much and think it deserved a spot in the top 10, but I also love and understand why the other rides ranked higher then it. These are the top tier WDW rides we're discussing here! Vote for which WDW ride to be eliminated out next!
solidyne
Well-Known Member
Great post! I usually don't read posts this long in their entirety, but I enjoyed this.
adimond
Active Member
Thanks for the non-TLDR!
I know, that's sad...imo Spaceship Earth should be representing it there (or Horizons or JII, but that's a different story)
Space Mountain, People Mover, and Pirates are getting the most mentions lately, and in some order will probably be the next few to fall. I'm ready to let Space Mountain go, but I'm also increasingly sympathetic to the anti-Pirates sentiment, as Orlando's in particular has suffered SO many indignities, being left out in 1971, installed in a shortened version, suffering box-office-inspired Deppification and (most of all) multiple rounds of prudish bowdlerization. Let the pirates be pirates! As for People Mover, my brain says it's too minor an attraction to be this high, but my heart says I never don't love riding it.
I'm open to Rise if there happens to be a surge against it but could also see the case for it landing higher. Ditto Everest.
I guess I'll say Pirates here, but I don't feel strongly about it.